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shimobaatar wrote: 29 Aug 2021 01:44
VaptuantaDoi wrote: 29 Aug 2021 01:21
shimobaatar wrote: 29 Aug 2021 01:17 Is remuêl- descended from a single word in (Classical and/or Vulgar) Latin?
[cross] not in either
Is re- equivalent to "re-" in English, etc.?
etymologically, yes
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Is -muêl- descended from a verb in (Classical and/or Vulgar) Latin?
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shimobaatar wrote: 29 Aug 2021 13:27 Is -muêl- descended from a verb in (Classical and/or Vulgar) Latin?
[tick] it descends from a verb which appears (in slightly different forms) in both Classical and Vulgar Latin
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Is -muêl- from molo, molui, molitum?
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Titus Flavius wrote: 10 Sep 2021 00:02 Is -muêl- from molo, molui, molitum?
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VaptuantaDoi wrote: 29 Aug 2021 14:18
shimobaatar wrote: 29 Aug 2021 13:27 Is -muêl- descended from a verb in (Classical and/or Vulgar) Latin?
[tick] it descends from a verb which appears (in slightly different forms) in both Classical and Vulgar Latin
Is the difference in form between Classical and Vulgar Latin related to a single segment, either a consonant or vowel?
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shimobaatar wrote: 10 Sep 2021 00:29
VaptuantaDoi wrote: 29 Aug 2021 14:18
shimobaatar wrote: 29 Aug 2021 13:27 Is -muêl- descended from a verb in (Classical and/or Vulgar) Latin?
[tick] it descends from a verb which appears (in slightly different forms) in both Classical and Vulgar Latin
Is the difference in form between Classical and Vulgar Latin related to a single segment, either a consonant or vowel?
[cross] Not really... although in some forms this is the case, the difference is morphological rather than phonological.
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Gonna guess that means that the verb is *molliō ‘to wet, to dampen’? Re-wetting center… Is it a term for a laundromat?
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qwed117 wrote: 16 Sep 2021 01:54 Gonna guess that means that the verb is *molliō ‘to wet, to dampen’?
[tick]
Re-wetting center… Is it a term for a laundromat?
The meaning of remuêl- has changed quite a lot, so [cross]
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VaptuantaDoi wrote: 16 Sep 2021 08:52
qwed117 wrote: 16 Sep 2021 01:54 Gonna guess that means that the verb is *molliō ‘to wet, to dampen’?
[tick]
Re-wetting center… Is it a term for a laundromat?
The meaning of remuêl- has changed quite a lot, so [cross]
Is its current meaning at all similar to any of the meanings listed for this verb?
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shimobaatar wrote: 27 Sep 2021 14:39
VaptuantaDoi wrote: 16 Sep 2021 08:52
qwed117 wrote: 16 Sep 2021 01:54 Gonna guess that means that the verb is *molliō ‘to wet, to dampen’?
[tick]
Re-wetting center… Is it a term for a laundromat?
The meaning of remuêl- has changed quite a lot, so [cross]
Is its current meaning at all similar to any of the meanings listed for this verb?
[cross]

The semantic drift was initially towards a more specific culinary sense, although in the compound it’s been generalised again.
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VaptuantaDoi wrote: 27 Sep 2021 23:11
shimobaatar wrote: 27 Sep 2021 14:39
VaptuantaDoi wrote: 16 Sep 2021 08:52
qwed117 wrote: 16 Sep 2021 01:54 Gonna guess that means that the verb is *molliō ‘to wet, to dampen’?
[tick]
Re-wetting center… Is it a term for a laundromat?
The meaning of remuêl- has changed quite a lot, so [cross]
Is its current meaning at all similar to any of the meanings listed for this verb?
[cross]

The semantic drift was initially towards a more specific culinary sense, although in the compound it’s been generalised again.
Culinary, hmm? This may be too generalized, but does remuêl- here just mean "to cook"?
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shimobaatar wrote: 28 Sep 2021 03:19
VaptuantaDoi wrote: 27 Sep 2021 23:11
shimobaatar wrote: 27 Sep 2021 14:39
VaptuantaDoi wrote: 16 Sep 2021 08:52
qwed117 wrote: 16 Sep 2021 01:54 Gonna guess that means that the verb is *molliō ‘to wet, to dampen’?
[tick]
Re-wetting center… Is it a term for a laundromat?
The meaning of remuêl- has changed quite a lot, so [cross]
Is its current meaning at all similar to any of the meanings listed for this verb?
[cross]

The semantic drift was initially towards a more specific culinary sense, although in the compound it’s been generalised again.
Culinary, hmm? This may be too generalized, but does remuêl- here just mean "to cook"?
Nope. The culinary meaning is pretty specific.
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VaptuantaDoi wrote: 28 Sep 2021 04:37 Nope. The culinary meaning is pretty specific.
Hmm… I'm not sure how much further I'll be able to get with this line of inquiry, so to speak, at least for the time being. I'll try to take a step back.

Does centrala remuêlaçônel refer to a building?
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shimobaatar wrote: 28 Sep 2021 19:00
VaptuantaDoi wrote: 28 Sep 2021 04:37 Nope. The culinary meaning is pretty specific.
Hmm… I'm not sure how much further I'll be able to get with this line of inquiry, so to speak, at least for the time being. I'll try to take a step back.

Does centrala remuêlaçônel refer to a building?
Not really a single building, although there would definitely be a number of buildings/structures in a centrala remuêlaçônel.
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VaptuantaDoi wrote: 06 Aug 2021 00:01 Vissard
centrala remuêlaçônel
[siɰ̃tχɑˈɫɒ ʁimɥɛ̈ɫɑ̈ʃɔˈŋɛɫ]
centrala remuêlaçônel
  • Does not mean "laundromat"
  • Does not refer to a single building, "although there would definitely be a number of buildings/structures in" one
centrala
  • A noun
  • Related to the English words "center/centre" and "central"
  • Refers to a location
  • More specific than just "a central place"
remuêlaçônel
  • An adjective
  • -açônel is equivalent to English “-ational”
  • re- is etymologically equivalent to "re-" in English
  • -muêl- is descended from *molliō "to wet, to dampen"
  • "The meaning of remuêl- has changed quite a lot", "initially towards a more specific culinary sense, although in the compound it’s been generalised again"
  • remuêl- does not simply mean "to cook", as the "culinary meaning is pretty specific"

I've tried to summarize everything that's been confirmed so far here.

Since it was specifically said that re- is etymologically equivalent to English "re-", I'm assuming it won't be helpful to think of it as meaning something like "again" here, correct?
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shimobaatar wrote: 06 Oct 2021 00:27
VaptuantaDoi wrote: 06 Aug 2021 00:01 Vissard
centrala remuêlaçônel
[siɰ̃tχɑˈɫɒ ʁimɥɛ̈ɫɑ̈ʃɔˈŋɛɫ]
centrala remuêlaçônel
  • Does not mean "laundromat"
  • Does not refer to a single building, "although there would definitely be a number of buildings/structures in" one
centrala
  • A noun
  • Related to the English words "center/centre" and "central"
  • Refers to a location
  • More specific than just "a central place"
remuêlaçônel
  • An adjective
  • -açônel is equivalent to English “-ational”
  • re- is etymologically equivalent to "re-" in English
  • -muêl- is descended from *molliō "to wet, to dampen"
  • "The meaning of remuêl- has changed quite a lot", "initially towards a more specific culinary sense, although in the compound it’s been generalised again"
  • remuêl- does not simply mean "to cook", as the "culinary meaning is pretty specific"

I've tried to summarize everything that's been confirmed so far here.
Yep, all correct.
Since it was specifically said that re- is etymologically equivalent to English "re-", I'm assuming it won't be helpful to think of it as meaning something like "again" here, correct?
It's helpful for working out the older culinary meaning, but not for the way its used in this compound.
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Does <remuêla-> mean “to fry” and does the whole word mean something like “food court”?
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qwed117 wrote: 07 Oct 2021 03:51 Does <remuêla-> mean “to fry” and does the whole word mean something like “food court”?
[cross] remuêl- is still related to water
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VaptuantaDoi wrote: 07 Oct 2021 04:03
qwed117 wrote: 07 Oct 2021 03:51 Does <remuêla-> mean “to fry” and does the whole word mean something like “food court”?
[cross] remuêl- is still related to water
"to boil"?
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