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qwed117 wrote: ↑08 Oct 2020 07:54

Jackk wrote: ↑07 Oct 2020 14:17

qwed117 wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020 05:15 Next: àcogliuac /əkoˈʎwak/

Hmmmm...

Is the first word a preposition at all?

Did the last word have one of the suffixes -acus or -aticus?

Did any of the words have the prefix con-? (Or an assimilated form thereof)

Jackk wrote: ↑08 Oct 2020 17:13

qwed117 wrote: ↑08 Oct 2020 07:54

Jackk wrote: ↑07 Oct 2020 14:17

qwed117 wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020 05:15 Next: àcogliuac /əkoˈʎwak/

Hmmmm...

Is the first word a preposition at all?

Did the last word have one of the suffixes -acus or -aticus?

Did any of the words have the prefix con-? (Or an assimilated form thereof)

qwed117 wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020 05:15 Nice word shimo!

I dunno if I’ll have much time in the next couple of weeks since class starts tomorrow, but I might as well try.

Next: àcogliuac /əkoˈʎwak/

It’s a harder one

Hmmmmm...
Is the first or last word from aqua?
Indeed, are any of the source words first-declension nouns?

Jackk wrote: ↑13 Oct 2020 18:51

qwed117 wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020 05:15 Nice word shimo!

I dunno if I’ll have much time in the next couple of weeks since class starts tomorrow, but I might as well try.

Next: àcogliuac /əkoˈʎwak/

It’s a harder one

Hmmmmm...
Is the first or last word from aqua?
Indeed, are any of the source words first-declension nouns?

Are one of the words related to illuc ?

jimydog000 wrote: ↑17 Oct 2020 08:35 Are one of the words related to illuc ?

No

Did the first word start with a vowel in Latin?

Creyeditor wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 16:08 Did the first word start with a vowel in Latin?

qwed117 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 17:59

Creyeditor wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 16:08 Did the first word start with a vowel in Latin?

Was the vowel a short a?

Creyeditor wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 19:14

qwed117 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 17:59

Creyeditor wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 16:08 Did the first word start with a vowel in Latin?

Was the vowel a short a?

Can I pass a question? . Technically, the answer is no, but change that produced the a was present in virtually every Romance language

So, was it a long a?

Creyeditor wrote: ↑24 Oct 2020 13:10 So, was it a long a?

Did the it start with a consonant?

Creyeditor wrote: ↑24 Oct 2020 20:49 Did the it start with a consonant?

If I'm interpreting everything correctly, I thought it was confirmed that the first word began with a vowel:

qwed117 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 17:59

Creyeditor wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020 16:08 Did the first word start with a vowel in Latin?

However, if that's the case, I'm having trouble thinking of what the "change that produced the /a/" and "was present in virtually every Romance language" could be if not /aː/ > /a/.

Is the change in question something that only affected a subset of words, or even just this word, rather than a more general, regular sound change? In other words, is this a case where the attested Classical Latin form begins with a vowel other than /a/, but nevertheless the reflexes of this word "in virtually every Romance language" begin, or at one point began, with /a/?

I may just be overlooking a simple solution or misinterpreting something, of course. qwed117's use of the emoji gives me the feeling that this may be the kind of thing that will end up feeling very obvious in hindsight.

Creyeditor wrote: ↑24 Oct 2020 20:49 Did the it start with a consonant?

shimobaatar wrote: ↑25 Oct 2020 00:42However, if that's the case, I'm having trouble thinking of what the "change that produced the /a/" and "was present in virtually every Romance language" could be if not /aː/ > /a/.

Is the change in question something that only affected a subset of words, or even just this word, rather than a more general, regular sound change? In other words, is this a case where the attested Classical Latin form begins with a vowel other than /a/, but nevertheless the reflexes of this word "in virtually every Romance language" begin, or at one point began, with /a/?

I may just be overlooking a simple solution or misinterpreting something, of course. qwed117's use of the emoji gives me the feeling that this may be the kind of thing that will end up feeling very obvious in hindsight.

You’re onto something, yes. The change in question only affected “this series of words”, at least to my knowledge. The Classical Latin form most certainly doesn’t begin with A or Ā.

Did it start with a low or mid vowel in Latin?

Creyeditor wrote: ↑25 Oct 2020 13:41 Did it start with a low or mid vowel in Latin?

qwed117 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2020 04:56

Creyeditor wrote: ↑25 Oct 2020 13:41 Did it start with a low or mid vowel in Latin?

Was it a mid vowel?

Creyeditor wrote: ↑28 Oct 2020 12:48

qwed117 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2020 04:56

Creyeditor wrote: ↑25 Oct 2020 13:41 Did it start with a low or mid vowel in Latin?

Was it a mid vowel?

Was it a front mid vowel?