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CUE is just an experimental alphabet for either a new language or a total revamp of one of my conlangs. I started CUE... a few minutes ago. I would like to have your opinion on it. :-)

A- ah - [ɑ]
V- bva -
C- cha - [tʃ]
D- dtha
T- ta - [t]
Ţ/Z- tsa - [ts]
E- eh - [ɛ]
F- tha - [θ] (I think)
H- ha - [h]
I- ih - [ɪ]
J- jchah (French j) - [ʒ]
L- lah - [l]
M- mah - [m]
N- nah - [n]
P- fah (as in phone) [f]
R- rah - [r]
S- sah -
U- ooh - [uː]
Y- yah - [j]

EDIT 2: Edited IPA to reflect recent changes to pronunciation, 2.5: Changed the letter Tsa
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ipa/xsampa please.

why not z for tsa?
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This phonology leaves little to be commented on as it lacks the IPA; for example, by "rolled r" do you mean /ɽ/, /r/, /ɽ͡r/, or even maybe /B/?

Please learn the IPA or X-Sampa if you wish to recieve more productive infromation.

What is the lang's grammar? You don not even mention a word order, let alone a complete syntax.

I apologize if I came across as rude, but leaves little to be analyzed; if you would like I can give you a list of links to sites with interesting linguistic information.
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Ossicone wrote:ipa/xsampa please.

why not z for tsa?
Cause it's different than z, at least I think it is. Tsa like "ti" in Latin (see http://www.omniglot.com/writing/latin2.htm, near the bottom)
I'm writing the IPA on a Word document right now, actually.
Yačay256 wrote:This phonology leaves little to be commented on as it lacks the IPA; for example, by "rolled r" do you mean /ɽ/, /r/, /ɽ͡r/, or even maybe /B/?
IPA. I have learned here on CBB that that is important, haha. I'm writing it like I said. Plus, I have no clue of the difference of all those "rolled r's" you put. It's just like the rolled R in Spanish. (If there are more than 1 in Spanish, then oh dear. :-P)
Yačay256 wrote:Please learn the IPA or X-Sampa if you wish to recieve more productive infromation.
I am, I swear!
Yačay256 wrote:What is the lang's grammar? You don not even mention a word order, let alone a complete syntax.
It doesn't have one. This is just an alphabet I'm experimenting with and then, if I like the end result, I'll either make a new lang with it or modify one of my old one's for it.
Yačay256 wrote:I apologize if I came across as rude, but leaves little to be analyzed; if you would like I can give you a list of links to sites with interesting linguistic information.
I completely understand, and you weren't rude. I'd like to see those links, though! Thanks.
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An alphabet without a language in mind is kinda pointless.
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Chelsara wrote:Plus, I have no clue of the difference of all those "rolled r's" you put. It's just like the rolled R in Spanish. (If there are more than 1 in Spanish, then oh dear. :-P)
Actually, there are two different R in Spanish.

One is like a "tap" of the tongue and the other is like many taps (making it a "trill" then).
Pero [meaning "but"] is pronounced with the tap. (Info: Lady GaGa tries to pronounce a tap, when she says "Alejandro". Well. She's not really succeeding.)
Perro [meaning "dog"] is pronounced with the trill.

It's quite easy to memorize: A trrrrrrrrill can be extended like crazy, not a tap. ;-)

And... yeah: I'm joining the others, demanding some more information. :-)
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@Chelsara: Here are the links you asked for:
http://wals.info/
Especially the Features page, I have it bookmarked
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoameric ... istic_Area
Just a possible area of inspiration
http://www.famsi.org/
More Mesoamerican stuff, including linguistic info
http://www.andamanese.net/Lg%20Sciences ... rticle.pdf
A PDF dictionary of Great Andamanese
http://www.freelang.net/
A ton of dictionaries in many languages; a great place for ideas on your conlang's lexicon

I was going to put Omniglot, but it appears you already know of it.

Enjoy!
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MrKrov wrote:An alphabet without a language in mind is kinda pointless.
Yup, I agree. I have a concept for one in mind, I just haven't gotten it "out of mind," you know? I just haven't written it down.
Cseúhro wrote:Actually, there are two different R in Spanish.

One is like a "tap" of the tongue and the other is like many taps (making it a "trill" then).
Pero [meaning "but"] is pronounced with the tap. (Info: Lady GaGa tries to pronounce a tap, when she says "Alejandro". Well. She's not really succeeding.)
Perro [meaning "dog"] is pronounced with the trill.

It's quite easy to memorize: A trrrrrrrrill can be extended like crazy, not a tap. ;-)

And... yeah: I'm joining the others, demanding some more information. :-)
Oh, I guess I mean it as a "tap" then. My Spanish teacher when I was younger was always rolling her r's forever (ex: "Perrrrrro is not pero") and I couldn't do that, so "pero" and "perro" had no difference... :-P

More information will be provided as I finalize my ideas. :-)
Yačay256 wrote:@Chelsara: Here are the links you asked for
*edited for length*
I was going to put Omniglot, but it appears you already know of it.

Enjoy!
Thanks, Yačay! I need to go explore those sites. Yes, I do know about Omniglot. I love the conscripts they have, especially. :-)
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I suggest <z> for ʦ because one you wont need any diacritics, and two because that is how it is in Italian.

So pizza is /piʦa/ not /piza/.
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Ossicone wrote:I suggest <z> for ʦ because one you wont need any diacritics, and two because that is how it is in Italian.

So pizza is /piʦa/ not /piza/.
Hmm, I'm not very fond of the letter z (it seems too "spacey") but diacritics are annoying. I'll try it out anyway. :-)
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Ossicone wrote:I suggest <z> for ʦ because one you wont need any diacritics, and two because that is how it is in Italian.

So pizza is /piʦa/ not /piza/.
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Some sample sentences I have created in a new conlang based off of the CUE alphabet.

Us cansé ya ticandirel.
[uːs tʃɒn.seɪ jɒ taɪ.tʃɒn.daɪ.rɨl]
A conlang I write-continuous present.
I am writing a conlang.

Us cansé-ero ya majeliţar hai estenilus / Us cansé-ero ya majelizar hai estenilus.
[uːs tʃɒn.seɪ ɜr.oʊ jɒ mɒ.ʒɨ.lɪ.tsar haɪ ɨs.tɨn.ɪl.uːs]
A conlang-bad I make-simple past they think-simple present.
They think I made a bad conlang. ( :-P )

Il cansé ya priţurilus / Il cansé ya prizurilus.
[ɪl tʃɒn.seɪ jɒ prɪ.tsuːr.ɪl.uːs]
The conlang I like-simple present.
I like the conlang.
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Chelsara wrote:Some sample sentences I have created in a new conlang based off of the CUE alphabet.

Us cansé ya ticandirel.
[uːs tʃɒn.seɪ jɒ taɪ.tʃɒn.daɪ.rɨl]
A conlang I write-continuous present.
I am writing a conlang.

Us cansé-ero ya majeliţar hai estenilus / Us cansé-ero ya majelizar hai estenilus.
[uːs tʃɒn.seɪ ɜr.oʊ jɒ mɒ.ʒɨ.lɪ.tsar haɪ ɨs.tɨn.ɪl.uːs]
A conlang-bad I make-simple past they think-simple present.
They think I made a bad conlang. ( :-P )

Il cansé ya priţurilus / Il cansé ya prizurilus.
[ɪl tʃɒn.seɪ jɒ prɪ.tsuːr.ɪl.uːs]
The conlang I like-simple present.
I like the conlang.
I like it, i even love it. I'll wait for more samples. Does verbs have a fix infinitive (like french -re -er -ir) or are they random like english
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Arzemju wrote:
Chelsara wrote:Some sample sentences I have created in a new conlang based off of the CUE alphabet.

Us cansé ya ticandirel.
[uːs tʃɒn.seɪ jɒ taɪ.tʃɒn.daɪ.rɨl]
A conlang I write-continuous present.
I am writing a conlang.

Us cansé-ero ya majeliţar hai estenilus / Us cansé-ero ya majelizar hai estenilus.
[uːs tʃɒn.seɪ ɜr.oʊ jɒ mɒ.ʒɨ.lɪ.tsar haɪ ɨs.tɨn.ɪl.uːs]
A conlang-bad I make-simple past they think-simple present.
They think I made a bad conlang. ( :-P )

Il cansé ya priţurilus / Il cansé ya prizurilus.
[ɪl tʃɒn.seɪ jɒ prɪ.tsuːr.ɪl.uːs]
The conlang I like-simple present.
I like the conlang.
I like it, i even love it. I'll wait for more samples. Does verbs have a fix infinitive (like french -re -er -ir) or are they random like english
I'm glad to hear you like it that much! All of the verbs in CUE end in -ir, but the -ir is removed and changed to whatever the ending is for the tense. So, for example, "majeliţar / majelizar" means "made", because "majelir" is "to make" and -iţar/-izar makes the verb be in the simple past tense.

I'll post more samples soon. :-)
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Arzemju wrote:I like it, i even love it. I'll wait for more samples. Does verbs have a fix infinitive (like french -re -er -ir) or are they random like english
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MrKrov wrote:
Arzemju wrote:I like it, i even love it. I'll wait for more samples. Does verbs have a fix infinitive (like french -re -er -ir) or are they random like english
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Do you have any problem/mental disease?
You should be more clear in your posts...
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Arzemju wrote:
MrKrov wrote:
Arzemju wrote:I like it, i even love it. I'll wait for more samples. Does verbs have a fix infinitive (like french -re -er -ir) or are they random like english
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Do you have any problem/mental disease?
You should be more clear in your posts...
I believe he means that all English infinitives are marked by having "to" in front of them.

to eat, to sleep, to breathe
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Arzemju wrote:
MrKrov wrote:
Arzemju wrote:I like it, i even love it. I'll wait for more samples. Does verbs have a fix infinitive (like french -re -er -ir) or are they random like english
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Quite possibly but I do have an expection that people have an inkling of what they talk about.
ossicone wrote:I believe he means that all English infinitives are marked by having "to" in front of them.
Overlooking the use of bare infinitives, yes. Also French having multiple infinitives doesn't help the "fix" bit.
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MrKrov wrote:Also French having multiple infinitives doesn't help the "fix" bit.
It's a fixed set.
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Eh. "Fix" in place or "fix" in number, doesn't change there's more than one.
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