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What languages influence your conlangs?
Posted: 19 Sep 2011 10:43
by Darkgamma
So, which natlang inspired your conlang?
I drew inspirations from German, Serbocroatian, Lithuanian and Tsez. I pretty much screwed myself twice over by doing that, but it ok :)
And how about you?
Edit: Thread merged with and renamed after
this one. -Aszev, 2020-05-07
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 19 Sep 2011 12:02
by zelos
Latin and few others
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 19 Sep 2011 14:55
by Chagen
German.
And somehow Japanese got in there.
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 19 Sep 2011 16:06
by Ceresz
I have had so many conlang sketches and natlang influences (mainly phonological) that I can't even count them anymore.
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 19 Sep 2011 16:29
by MarcKB
English course in Ravcic wrote:Primary influences: Danish, French, German, English, Hungarian, Latin
Minor influences: Dutch, Ido, Mayan, Chinese, Old Greek
Taken from the course. These are they. :-)
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 19 Sep 2011 17:57
by Testyal
Normally I take inspiration from Russian or some Slav-Germanic lang, though right now seem to be taking inspiration from Finnish and Baltic langs.
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 19 Sep 2011 20:05
by eldin raigmore
I have forgotten!
:oops:
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 19 Sep 2011 20:08
by Salmoneus
Lots of things. Mostly Micronesian and Polynesian; also some other Austronesian elements. I try to keep amazonian languages in mind as well, but that generally falls by the wayside as I don't find out as much about them. [I'm not a scholar - I go by articles here, overviews there, introductory chapters now and then, not serious read-through-the-whole-grammar stuff]
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 19 Sep 2011 20:36
by MrKrov
I'm currently ripping off Ainu & Chinese languages as I move away from ripping off Japanese and other Chinese/Tibetan languages.
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 19 Sep 2011 23:16
by ian9113
German, French, Lithuanian, west-Slavic a bit (Slovene, Croat, etc.), sometimes Japanese.
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 19 Sep 2011 23:23
by Darkgamma
ian9113 wrote:west-Slavic a bit (Slovene, Croat, etc.)
That's Southslavic
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 20 Sep 2011 00:03
by ian9113
Oops. West Slavic is Polish and Czech and stuff. :-s
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 20 Sep 2011 00:09
by Darkgamma
ian9113 wrote:Oops. West Slavic is Polish and Czech and stuff. :-s
Don't worry. I once grouped Ossetian, Latvian and Estonian in the same "Caucasian European" group, in
homework for
Serbian. And we were supposed to write a story.
I was so ripping myself to shreds thru laughter after
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 20 Sep 2011 00:24
by thaen
Sumerian, possibly Hebrew.
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 20 Sep 2011 05:16
by Micamo
Midhera is basically just a ripoff of every native american language ever (especially the Athabaskan family). Except the phonology which started as a ripoff of Quenya (which was a ripoff of Finnish) but slowly transformed into an inhuman abomination.
[ˈkḁse̥θe̥l̥ːḁsi̥j̥e̥θ]!
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 20 Sep 2011 06:48
by Ollock
Micamo wrote:Midhera is basically just a ripoff of every native american language ever (especially the Athabaskan family). Except the phonology which started as a ripoff of Quenya (which was a ripoff of Finnish) but slowly transformed into an inhuman abomination.
[ˈkḁse̥θe̥l̥ːḁsi̥j̥e̥θ]!
How can you even distinguish anything in that word. The vowels are all voiceless!
All of them? Have you ever heard a voiceless vowel. I'd wager you haven't. Japanese has them -- and they're inaudible as far as I can tell.
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 20 Sep 2011 07:01
by Micamo
I'm slowly learning to distinguish the voiceless vowels; It's all about the shape of the tongue and lips in between the consonants. It's subtle, but it's there.
Plosives are the easiest consonant type to interpret a voiceless vowel between, but Midhera has words composing entirely of voiceless sonorants. Like this:
[m̥ḁɹ̥i̥l̥i̥]
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 20 Sep 2011 07:08
by Ollock
Micamo wrote:I'm slowly learning to distinguish the voiceless vowels; It's all about the shape of the tongue and lips in between the consonants. It's subtle, but it's there.
Plosives are the easiest consonant type to interpret a voiceless vowel between, but Midhera has words composing entirely of voiceless sonorants. Like this:
[m̥ḁɹ̥i̥l̥i̥]
.....
My god! How do you shout in that language?
EDIT: What's more, how do you whisper, if practically everything has a voicing distinction?
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 20 Sep 2011 07:18
by Micamo
Midh believe discussion is a thing to always be done closely, calmly, personally, slowly, quietly. If one ever found the need to shout, words would probably not be used: Roars and hisses would take their place.
(Dragons, remember?)
Besides, in actual conversation no more than 2 entirely voiceless syllables in a row would appear very often in a row. That example I gave was pretty much deliberately constructed for the sake of showing it off. Possible? Yes. Representative of the language as a whole? No.
Re: Natlang Influences
Posted: 20 Sep 2011 08:22
by Valoski
Finnish, Latin, German, Dutch, Norse. Only in phonology and lexicon though.