Phrase Building

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Phrase Building

Post by masako »

So, much like the Lexicon Building Thread somebody who doesn't already have a phrase or sentence in their lang makes one and then gives a phrase/sentence for the next person.

Example:
the person before me wrote:Where are you going?
Kala:
모 다 야라 가
mo ta yala ka
[mo: ta: ja:la ka]
place 2sg go Q
Where are you going?

next: My mother and I are eating a spicy soup.

This is meant to help build grammar and maybe lexicons. The use of IPA and glossing is highly encouraged and the use of scripts is also welcome.

Note: Culturally specific phrases/sentences that may be considered difficult to translate can of course be approximated.

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Starter sentence:

I would very much like to meet your parents.
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Post by M. Park »

Talm Kai Ulker-ai Skaith-reek a nakwena-fyai tyeeg-fyai alg na ja-reek
Would best like.P-1 meet.INF.TR and(PREPOSITION*) mother-DEF father-DEF and(POSTPOSITION*) DEP you-TR
I would like very much to meet your parents (lit. I would like best to meet the mother and father of you)


Next: Which way to the mourge?

* I have no idea how to gloss this thing/idea that’s in my head. The conjunction and, when used to mean many things are one group is represented by a preposition (a) everything in the group, then a postposition (alg) which are paired. When and is used in the temporal sense, another word is used.
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Post by Romo »

Vedz ceiam vi ad mouds-louc?
Through which way to death-place?
Which way to the morgue?

Next: That's not how you do the dougie!
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Post by Lambuzhao »

:lat: :con: Çetara -

Ecco no sue codo sajdar la dughisuaga.
[e.k:o no swɛ kɔ.do saj.daɾ la du.gi.swa.ga]
Behold NEG be-PRS.3SG ADV dance-PRS.INF DEF.F.SG.ABL dougie.swagga-F.SG.ABL
That isn't how to dance the dougie-swagga!

Next: In space they can't hear you scream.
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Post by Hacek »

Nesedra, serijig lagédìda.
[nesedrɐ ser͡ɽijig laɣe˥ɖi˩dɐ]
space-LOC hear-NEG scream-2SG.GEN-DAT


Next: Do you want a delicious shrimp cake?
[:D] :eng: - [:)] :esp: - [:|] :swe: - [:(] :hun: - [:'(] :hin: - [:S] :ell: :rus: :fra: - :idea: :hye: :sqi: :kal: :zho: :jpn: :gle: :kat:
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Post by masako »

Hacek wrote:Next: Do you want a delicious shrimp cake?
Kala:
다 거 바느그지 다마하 유하 가
ta ke panukutsi tamaha ueha ka
[ta ke: panuku:tʃi tama:ha we:ɦa ka]
2sg OBJ cake-shrimp good-AUG want Q

next: Mary gave Joseph three pencils and some paper.
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Post by Hacek »

Mordan Mary John-na on bhadhųnudàjo bhadhunulam.
[mordãn mar͡ɽi ɟõn-nɐ õn bʱa̤dʱʷʊ̤̃nʷuda˩jo bʱa̤dʱʷṳ̃nʷulãm]
have-IND Mary-NOM John-DAT.AN three pencil-INSTR paper-PAUC-COM

Next: I went to the store but there was no milk.
[:D] :eng: - [:)] :esp: - [:|] :swe: - [:(] :hun: - [:'(] :hin: - [:S] :ell: :rus: :fra: - :idea: :hye: :sqi: :kal: :zho: :jpn: :gle: :kat:
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Post by Xing »

Hacek wrote: Next: I went to the store but there was no milk.
Ko laka ta marowatti, teya kunei muru ngaa.
PFT walk SG shop, but be.NEG milk DIST
[ko̞ ˈlaːkɒ tʲa mʲaɾo̞ˈwɒtʲːi tʲe̞ja kuˈnʲe̞i̯ muːɾ gɒː]

The one who killed the big, evil, man-eating cookie-monster.
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Post by Kuhron »

Xing wrote:The one who killed the big, evil, man-eating cookie-monster.
WTL:
Ca ge níuko c nìp pra s tob, gex sau vìlk ze téilo son ra pe.
[ʃa gɛ ˈniukɔ c nɪp pɾa s tɔb gɛǂ sau vɪlk zɛ ˈteilɔ sɔn ra pɛ]
DEF.PRON PAST kill.A.PTCP DEF cookie associated.with and.pre big, evil and.post monster AORIST eat.A.PTCP person PL ptcp.ender
The one who killed the big and evil cookie-monster who eats people.

Next: Be sure to ensure that my motorcycle is insured.

Edit: forgot IPA
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Kuhron wrote:Next: Be sure to ensure that my motorcycle is insured.
Kala:

갸 거 아자돠 나요 하마요 안도
kya ke atsatao nayo hamayo anto
[kʲa: ke atʃa:taʊ na:jo hama:jo a:ⁿto]
IMP OBJ wheel.two 1sg.POSS insure.POSS be.sure

next: John has never seen a waterfall.
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sano wrote:next: John has never seen a waterfall.
Vanga:

Alwah hóháwun jœlúfæhhæuniggigi.

a‹›lw-ˤh hó‹›h-á‹›w-ʷn jœ‹l›w-ʷf-ˤh-ˤ‹ʷn-jg~jg›i
Alwah has never seen waterfall(s).
be_strong/bird_of_prey-3P to_reach-to_be_ocean-4P to_see<PAST>-TRA-3P-OBJ<4P-NEG~not_at_all/ever>
[ˈɑlwɑħː ˈɔːhɑːwʊ̃ŋː ˈœɾʊːɸæħːˌæʊ̯̃nɯ̯ɰˠːɯ̯ɰˠɯ̯]

Next: Have you cleaned your room yet, Albert?
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Skógvur wrote:Next: Have you cleaned your room yet, Albert?
Kala:

야 아버도, 다 거 사라 다요 테라여 가
ya apeto, ta ke sala tayo tlelaye ka
VOC Albert 2sg OBJ room 2sg.POSS clean-PST Q

next: We can build you the bookcase, but we do not have time for the shelves.
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Ahren sávas kwavjelji qeta gisa hęrláset der bhadhįga, ha von ug ghakkr qeji gisa mordakrudàlt.
[ar̥ẽn sa˥βas kʷwɶβʲjeɭji ɟetɐ gʲisɐ hɛrla˥set der bʱa̤dʱʲı̤ɣɐ hɐ βõn ug gʱa̤kkr ɟeji gʲisɐ mordakrʷuda˩lt]
can-IND 1PL.EXCL-NOM 2SG.POL COMPL-DAT make-SUNJ storage-ACC.IN GEN book but be-IND zero time COMPL-BEN make-SUBJ shelf-PL-ACC.IN


Next: Where did you put my keys?
[:D] :eng: - [:)] :esp: - [:|] :swe: - [:(] :hun: - [:'(] :hin: - [:S] :ell: :rus: :fra: - :idea: :hye: :sqi: :kal: :zho: :jpn: :gle: :kat:
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Post by denarii »

Hacek wrote:Next: Where did you put my keys?
Kiswona:

Naasin uko eláku neŝyóótletla tla?
key-PL-P 1.SG-GEN what-place-ALL 2.SG-A-place-NPST-PFV Q
[na:zin uko ela˥ku neʒjo:˥ɮeɮa ɬa]

Next: Welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends.
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Post by Romo »

Benevinadz, më amisci, adz oustenadz peravesceia
[b̪en̥evɪn̥dɵ me äme̞skɪ aʤ ʊsten̥äʤ pereveske̞ä]
Good coming, my friends, to show perpetual
Welcome, my friends, to the show that never ends

Next: You don't know my life
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Fluent: :fra:
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Post by Avjunza »

Romo wrote: Next: You don't know my life

Ntamūkili:

Mulonte ŋkanu ata fai.
NEG-experience-PERF 1s-GEN life 2s.
You haven't experienced my life.


Next: If you do not do as I say I will kill you.
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Avjunza wrote:Next: If you do not do as I say I will kill you.
Vanga:

Kózditmaijgi iutautuddufiami.

kó‹z-t›t-m-ˤ‹j-jg›i iw-tá‹›w-(ʷ)‹t›dd-ʷf-j-ˤ‹m›i
Should you not obey me, then I will kill you.
to_obey<SUBJ-FUT>-2P-OBJ<1P> now-to_die-CAUS<FUT>-TRA-1P-OBJ<2P>
[ˈkɔːz̻dɯ̯tm̥ˌɑ̃ɪ̯̃jːɣɯ̯ ˈjʊˌdɑʊ̯dʊ̯ðːʊ̤̯ɸɪ̯ˌɑmːɯ̯]

Next: Is there any chance of reducing the price, since I am a poor student on a low income?
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Skógvur wrote: Next: Is there any chance of reducing the price, since I am a poor student on a low income?
Ahrerha kwavjel qeta sjąnhutsą nalfphųt, ven von swi sękédrana fįle der mordaswo núskrt gŕa?
[ar̥erʱa̤ kʷwɶβʲjel ɟetɐ ʂjɔ̃nʱʷṳtsɔ nalφpʰʷʊt βẽn βõn sʷwy sɛke˥drãnɐ φıle der mordasʷwo nʷu˥skrt gɾa]
can-INT 2SG.POL-NOM COMPL-DAT down-put-SUBJ cost-ACC.IN, because be-IND 1SG-NOM student-NOM poor GEN have-1SG.GEN money-ACC.IN little


Next: I'd rather you get me the green pen instead of the red one.
[:D] :eng: - [:)] :esp: - [:|] :swe: - [:(] :hun: - [:'(] :hin: - [:S] :ell: :rus: :fra: - :idea: :hye: :sqi: :kal: :zho: :jpn: :gle: :kat:
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Hacek wrote:Ahrerha kwavjel qeta sjąnhutsą nalfphųt, ven von swi sękédrana fįle der mordaswo núskrt gŕa?
I like the æsthetic of your romanisation!
Hacek wrote:Next: I'd rather you get me the green pen instead of the red one.
Vanga:

Hmýlms valms lájantazdnizampauzi míkylssk.

hmý‹›l-Ø‹›m-ˤh-z va‹›lm-ˤh-z lá‹›j-ˤntˤ‹z-t›n-j-z-ˤ‹m≈mp›i-ˤ‹w-z›i mík-ʷ‹›lt-ˤh-z-jg
I would want to be given (in the immediate future) by you the green pen, and not the red one.
to_carve-COM-3P-INAN be_green/flourishing-3P-INAN to_give-DES<SUBJ-FUT>-1P-INAN-OBJ<2P>-OBJ<3P-INAN> to_burn-SEM-3P-INAN-NEG
[m̥yːl̥m̥p͡s̻ ʊ̤̯ˈwɑl̥m̥p͡s̻ ˈtl̥ɑːjɑ̃n̥tɑ̃z̻dnɯ̯z̻ˌɑ̃m̥pˌɑʊz̻ɯ̯ ˈmiːɡʏl̥t͡ɕk]

1. My use of ≈ is an ad-hoc thing I use to denote that the -m- has irregularly undergone sharpening to -mp-.
2. The reason that the construction is passive is that the desiderative can only express a desire of the verb's grammatical subject.
3. The second -ˤ- of the desiderative is irregularly nasalised through analogy with the always nasalised former one and the fact that it is indeed regularly nasalised sometimes.


Next: If you as much as utter a word, this rubber duck will be the last thing you'll ever see.
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Post by MONOBA »

I don't have words for rubber so I'll do the green pen one (using eivpi 'carving tool' instead of pen):



gemba sỉlkumuednakimi eivpi mialha tavvi pila
[ˈɟɛmba ˈsi:kumʊɛʔtnɑɟimi ˈɛɪðbi ˈmɪalha ˈtʰɑw:i ˈpʰila]
gemba s-i-ỉlk-um-ue-dna-ki-mi eivpi-Ø mialha-Ø tavvi pila-Ø
preferably 2p.unag.sg-dit-present-obli-concl.infer.tr.opt-revers-1p.reci.sg-1p.ag.sg carving.tool-dat blue-dat than red-dat

‘I’d rather you get me the green carving tool rather than the red one’

Siwa has socalled multiple-agentivity in verbs. There can be an subject, some sort of auxiliary of need or obligation, an object to that auxiliary (i.e. it's subject as an object), and there must be the reversive infix -dna- (reversing on what argument the auxiliary/need lies).

I need to go - mak·um·i·mi (go·must·indic·1p)
I need you to go - sa·mak·um·adn·i·mi (1p·go·must·reversive·indic·1p)

This particular example is literally translated as:

'I would rather need you to present to me the blue/green carving tool than red'


Next (if you so chose):
I need you to show me the one you didn't take a bite out of
Siwa:

Sisyvvumadnakimi katurontủna
(lit. I need you to show to me from-unbitten-yours)

or

Sisyvvumadnakimi, iri aksuikona
(lit. I need you to show to me, which was not your-bitten out of)

or

Kahami isyvvotekina, iri aksuikona
(lit. I need that you show to me, which was not your-bitten out of)
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