Alel (conlang)
Re: Alel (conlang)
It's an uninspiring mismash of bits of Arabic and English grammar. Doesn't leave a lot to be said.
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Alright, noted.MrKrov wrote:It's an uninspiring mishmash of bits of Arabic and English grammar.
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Re: Alel (conlang)
May be my lack of Semitic knowledge...
I don't notice Arabic grammar anywhere's.
I don't notice Arabic grammar anywhere's.
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Conlangs: Literary Makurungou, Common Makurungou
Conlangs: Literary Makurungou, Common Makurungou
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Tip: you didn't need that apostrophe s there.Itsuki Kohaku wrote:I don't notice Arabic grammar anywhere.
3 cases, NOM, ACC and GEN, also a DEF article and no INDEF
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sano wrote:Tip: you didn't need that apostrophe s there.Itsuki Kohaku wrote:I don't notice Arabic grammar anywhere.
3 cases, NOM, ACC and GEN, also a DEF article and no INDEF
Everyone makes mistakes in grammar. And I'm usually not one of them.. How could I miss that?
And now I see. The Arabic influence yes.
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Conlangs: Literary Makurungou, Common Makurungou
Conlangs: Literary Makurungou, Common Makurungou
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That and the bits of actual morphology given are basically identical, with the case suffixes switching roles around somewhat.sano wrote:Tip: you didn't need that apostrophe s there.Itsuki Kohaku wrote:I don't notice Arabic grammar anywhere.
3 cases, NOM, ACC and GEN, also a DEF article and no INDEF
I find it a wee bit odd /ʒ/ has no voiceless counterpart and /t͡ʃ/ has no voiced counterpart.
And /u/ becomes [w] but /i/ and /j/ are distinct.
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"The exceptions are c, which is pronounced as a voiceless postalveolar fricative, j, which is pronounced as a voiced postalveolar fricative..."MrKrov wrote:I find it a wee bit odd /ʒ/ has no voiceless counterpart and /t͡ʃ/ has no voiced counterpart.
And /u/ becomes [w] but /i/ and /j/ are distinct.
The distinction between /i/ and /j/ is a personal preference...I've never been a fan of <i> being used for /j/.
Yeah, I'm not tryin' out for any awards here, just tryin' to make a decent language, y'know.MrKrov wrote:That and the bits of actual morphology given are basically identical, with the case suffixes switching roles around somewhat.
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Re: Alel (conlang)
A unique phonology is good.
I should probably have given Makurungou a more unique phonology.
I should probably have given Makurungou a more unique phonology.
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Conlangs: Literary Makurungou, Common Makurungou
Conlangs: Literary Makurungou, Common Makurungou
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While I agree, I'm not inclined to brag about Alel's phonology being all that unique...it is rather vanilla compared to many others.Itsuki Kohaku wrote:A unique phonology is good.
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Re: Alel (conlang)
Not only Arabic grammar, but Arabic lexicon such as ketab.
Maybe, but not to the point of being unrealistic.Itsuki Kohaku wrote:A unique phonology is good.
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"To form the plural, add the ending -t, or -at to words ending in a consonant. If a word ends in an alveolar plosive, then the endings -m, or -em respectively"
If it ends in an alveolar plosive, of course it ends in a consonant, so why list -m?
Also, is there really no allophony at all?
If it ends in an alveolar plosive, of course it ends in a consonant, so why list -m?
Also, is there really no allophony at all?
Re: Alel (conlang)
I am quite amazed about the a-posteriori vocabulary which draws inspiration from a wide area. Yes, the grammar is still rather incomplete, but so far it does look not very new to me (if your intention is an easy auxlang or fictional auxlang it so far meets that goal). However, the fact that you actually thought about fractions is IMHO good.
Q: Il'isa sike'han suntes?
A: Xe'isa sike'han Sike'tes... kali.
In contrast to popular perception, I do have a life. I just choose to spend it conlanging.
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A: Xe'isa sike'han Sike'tes... kali.
In contrast to popular perception, I do have a life. I just choose to spend it conlanging.
Fluent: , intermediate: , learning: , interested in Volapük
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Excellent point, indeed...I worded it poorly. Even if the word is something like /su:.te:/ then -m would be used (because the /t/ is the last consonant) but I guess I wasn't sure just how to word that.Nortaneous wrote:If it ends in an alveolar plosive, of course it ends in a consonant, so why list -m?
Well, I'm no good with that sort of thing...it's not that I don't understand the concept, or even find it somewhat interesting, but my powers of description often leave something to be desired with respects to details in a phonology.Nortaneous wrote:Also, is there really no allophony at all?
A few possibilities that I have thought of:
/S/ > /tS/ word final
/i/ > /I/ when in stressed syllable
/t/ & /d/ > /T/ & /D/ when preceded by front vowel
etc...
So as you can see, nothing too grand or spectacular, and I am not a fan of complex (detailed) phonologies....I enjoy more lexicon building and script making.
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"if the last consonant in word is an alveolar plosive, ..."sano wrote:Excellent point, indeed...I worded it poorly. Even if the word is something like /su:.te:/ then -m would be used (because the /t/ is the last consonant) but I guess I wasn't sure just how to word that.Nortaneous wrote:If it ends in an alveolar plosive, of course it ends in a consonant, so why list -m?
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Awesome, thanks.Nortaneous wrote:"if the last consonant in word is an alveolar plosive, ..."
EDIT: Change made.
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The grammar is very much like Arabic, from what I can tell, but I like the fact that you took many sources for the lexicon.
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