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Alahithian has 700+ words in its dictionary. Haven't done anything with it for a while.
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Khemehekis wrote:Well, Kankonian has reached 23,456 words! The 23,456th word, for those curious, was "blithrebrithe", meaning, as you may have guessed, "tongue-twister". It's been 11,111 words since the last time this happened, with word #12,345. It won't happen again until (and unless) I get my 34,567th word. And Kankonian probably won't grow that large.
Guess I was wrong.

Word #34,567: skazil, meaning "bursary"

Glad to have reached this milestone before the end of the year.

BTW, I may have to take a break from Kankonian and the other languages of the Lehola Galaxy. Yesterday I got so angry that I lost my footing and fell and slipped on the bottom of my spine. I have pain whenever I have to move now (although at first I was in perpetual pain). Hopefully I'll be able to see a doctor today and find out how severe (or not) the injury is exactly.
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31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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Khemehekis wrote:Word #34,567: skazil, meaning "bursary"
That is really, really impressive! Congrats! (Aiming for 45,678 now, hm?)

I'm not sure how many words HyPry has, as I have them in both a Lexique Pro lexicon and in a haphazard list on Microsoft Word. I haven't had the time to switch them all over to the lexicon yet. Culphecc Glyw just hit 100 words with nthaach, to blaspheme.
Edit: Substituted a string instrument for a French interjection.

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Ejnoq reached 450 earlier today! I am not sure which word it was as the lexicon is arranged alphabetically and not chronologically.

Most of my other active (or semi-active) conlangs have around 20 - 40 words in their lexicon. :S
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kiwikami wrote:
Khemehekis wrote:Word #34,567: skazil, meaning "bursary"
That is really, really impressive! Congrats!
:Takes a bow: Thanks. Yes, an accomplishment to be proud of.
(Aiming for 45,678 now, hm?)
Actually, the next milestone I'm aiming for is 35,000. Next milestone after that won't be until 40,000 words. Unfortunately, this Kankonian stuff may have to take a backseat to recovery.

If I actually reach 45,678, shoot me. That way I'll stop creating words.
I'm not sure how many words HyPry has, as I have them in both a Lexique Pro lexicon and in a haphazard list on Microsoft Word.
That's so cool. When you get them all over, tell us how many words total you have. And inform us of the big milestones (2,500, 3,000, 5,000, 10,000, 11,111, 12,345, 15,000, etc.)
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Word #35,000: pahworo, meaning "anemone" (the flower, not a sea anemone).
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Culphecc Glyw's at 300, with phlegethor - cyberspace.
It's over 500 if you're counting all morphemes, but I haven't added the prefixes and suffixes to the lexicon yet, so...

HyPry has ground to a screeching halt. Lovecraft has been distracting me...
Edit: Substituted a string instrument for a French interjection.

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Alahithian is now at 830 with the word xurew to purr.
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How do you count words? Do you include bound morphemes? Idioms?
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For Alahithian I don't include bound morphemes (and that would only increase it by 10 or so). I don't include idioms, but I have two phrases: vatuf hesor and erefas hesor (signpost and clock, which translate literally as "pointer that looks" and "time that looks"), which are effectively just words in their English translations. You might include a few more phrases for words with ol, which is a particle for proper nouns.
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Xing wrote:How do you count words? Do you include bound morphemes? Idioms?
The question I ask myself is, "What would be an independent entry in a dictionary?"

Take the word "clean", for example. The words "cleans", "cleaned", "cleaning", "cleaner" (comparative adjective) and "cleanest" would be considered mere inflectional variations on "clean" and not independent lexemes. The words "cleaner" (noun), "cleanly" (adverb, rhymes with "obscenely"), cleanly (adjective, rhymes with "henley"), "cleanliness", "clean-cut" and "clean-shaven" would all be counted as words; they are derivational, and not indlectional.

In counting Kankonian words, I count stock phrases that stand alone as sentences (happy birthday, good riddance, excuse me) as words. I count nouns like "posted trespass" or "black-footed ferret" as words. Due to the nature of Kankonian, however, verbal idioms (like "throw up" or "clean the clock" in English) are listed under the head verb in my dictionary and not counted as separate words.

Idioms are tricky. Idioms that work as noun phrases (a snowball's chance in Hell) or adjective phrases (hot to trot) are counted as words. If they require conjugating a verb, they are listed under a headword (usually the most distinctive word in the phrase) and not counted as independent words.

Bound morphemes are entries in some dictionaries, but not in my Kankonian dictionary, so I don't count them as words.

Also, I list irregular plurals and verb forms as separate entries, so I count these as words. Luckily, there are only a few od these.

Every number that is a solid word in Kankonian gets an entry. These usually come in threesomes: bam (two), bamam (second), bamiksi (half). Every number word from 0 to 100 is solid in Kankonian. After that, it's just some of the powers of ten. This increases the lexicon count, but not by much.

Proper nouns (Pleiades, Jupiter, Canada, Detroit), proper adjectives (Japanese, Buddhist, African, Californian) and proper verbs (Americanize, Anglicize, Hellenize, Sinicize) are counted as words.

Proper names (Mark, Peter, Jim, John, Rachel, Kate, Sharon, Jennifer, Peterson, Rodriguez, Nguyen, Cohen) are not counted as words. However, derivations and eponymous words that you'd find as words in a dictionary (Dickensian, Kafkaesque, Shakespearean, Reaganomics, Obamaton, Romnesia, Monicagate, Asperger's, Tourette's, Landau-Kleffner, Doppler effect, Murphy's Law) are counted as words.
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31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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What programs do you guys use as a dictionary?
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Excel
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Lexique Pro.

And by the way, Atlantika has just over 2400 "dictionary" words at the moment!

But Atlantika is a very fusional language. If I included all possible declined verbs/adjectives and conjugated verbs... I can't tell how many possible words exist. A million or two, maybe more!
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Declined forms don't count. Nor do Conjugated forms.
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Of course Image. That's why I didn't include them.
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wakinstube wrote:What programs do you guys use as a dictionary?
Lexique Pro, but most of my conlangs start out with small vocabulary lists on Microsoft Word. Then, over time, those lists grow... long. Culphecc Glyw's lexicon is still almost entirely on Word, and that's about 500 entries. I just haven't had the time to move them over to Lexique Pro...

Eveleranil, Genljong, and Pa Ko Tseng Fe Cun are all in Excel, as I never bothered to make a proper lexicon. HyPry's another Word/Lexique Pro mix. My smaller projects are entirely in Word.
Edit: Substituted a string instrument for a French interjection.

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How does Lexique Pro compare with Excel?
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MrKrov wrote:Declined forms don't count. Nor do Conjugated forms.
atman wrote:Of course Image. That's why I didn't include them.
I think, perhaps, if they're suppletive, maybe they should be counted.
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ol bofosh wrote:How does Lexique Pro compare with Excel?
It is absolutely brilliant. At times, I like the quick organization and rearrangement that Excel provides, but Lexique Pro not only alphabetizes everything (and organizes it in a half-dozen other ways), but allows you to input definitions, examples, glosses, encyclopedia information, images, pronunciation, and... well, everything.
It's a little more of a hassle to put together than an Excel spreadsheet, but in the end, I like the results more. And there are options to export or publish the lexicon as well, as webpages and the like.
(And it's free.)
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