Indo-European diachronic collablang

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Re: Indo-European diachronic collablang

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122) b
123) b
124) b
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*bump*
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tezcatlip0ca wrote:*bump*
That's really unnecessary, trust me. I'm almost certain I've said this here before, but I have many things to do, especially from Monday to Friday. If I go around 6-8 days without updating this thread, that should not be surprising, or any cause for alarm. It's going to be something that happens often, because most of my life is spent away from a computer, which I'm sure is the case for most, if not all of us. I haven't forgotten about this. I haven't lost interest. The collaboration isn't over. I just have school.
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shimobaatar wrote:
tezcatlip0ca wrote:*bump*
That's really unnecessary, trust me. I'm almost certain I've said this here before, but I have many things to do, especially from Monday to Friday. If I go around 6-8 days without updating this thread, that should not be surprising, or any cause for alarm. It's going to be something that happens often, because most of my life is spent away from a computer, which I'm sure is the case for most, if not all of us. I haven't forgotten about this. I haven't lost interest. The collaboration isn't over. I just have school.
I understand. It just surprised me that people stopped voting.
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Re: Indo-European diachronic collablang

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Results for Questions #122-124:
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122. The ablative case is being merged with the locative case. Which case's noun endings should be used after this merger?

a). We should continue using the locative's noun endings alone. 4
b). We should now use the ablative's noun endings alone. 3

After the ablative and locative cases merge, only the locative's case suffixes will continue to be used.

123. The locative case is being lost next. Which case should it be merged with?

a). Nominative.
b). Accusative. 2
c). Instrumental. 2
d). Dative. 1
e). Genitive. 1

Tiebreaker necessary.

124. Which case is going to be lost next?

a). Nominative.
b). Accusative. 2
c). Instrumental. 1
d). Dative. 4
e). Genitive. 3

The dative case will be lost next.
Notes (copied from the previous round):
Spoiler:
We'll be voting on which moods and cases to keep in the coming weeks, among other things. When an option says something like "get rid of the nominative", that doesn't mean we won't have any way to express the agent of a transitive verb or the experiencer of an intransitive verb; instead, it means that PIE's nominative case endings will no longer be used, and another case/another set of endings will take on the usages of the nominative case in addition to its own former usages. Hopefully that makes sense.

I'd strongly suggest looking up reconstructed verb and noun inflection charts for PIE to see which sets of endings you prefer. When the time comes for us to decide which cases and moods to merge, we will have to decide whether to use the first case or mood's endings, the second case or mood's endings, or a combination of the two sets. Hopefully that makes sense as well.

Inflection charts for verbs and nouns in PIE can be found on the Wikipedia pages I just linked to, among other places, although I can't guarantee they're the most reliable, complete, accessible, etc.

New questions:

125. The locative case is being lost. Which case should it be merged with?

a). Accusative.
b). Instrumental.

126. The dative case is being lost next. Which case should it be merged with?

a). Nominative.
b). Accusative.
c). Instrumental.
d). Genitive.

More notes (copied from the previous round):

Approval voting. Let me know if I've counted something wrong or anything along those lines.

Suggestions for questions not related to phonology are welcome, but suggestions for possible answers are not. If, for example, case or mood endings are being merged, suggestions are naturally welcome, as there are so many possible outcomes. However, please save your suggestions for when a question specifically lists submissions as an option.
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125: a
126: c / d
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125. B
126. D
drúne, rá gárš
drun-VOC I.ERG read

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Re: Indo-European diachronic collablang

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125) b
126) d
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125) a
126) c

can someone show me an example of what it looks like so far? I'm new here.
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125. b
126. abd (would be boring if we just ended up with ye goode olde germanique system)
At kveldi skal dag lęyfa,
Konu es bręnnd es,
Mæki es ręyndr es,
Męy es gefin es,
Ís es yfir kømr,
Ǫl es drukkit es.
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125) B
126) D
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YourFace wrote:can someone show me an example of what it looks like so far? I'm new here.
Those of us who aren't new don't really know, either. I'm working on it, but I don't have as much time as I'd like to do so.
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126. b
127. abd
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Results for Questions #125-126:
Spoiler:
125. The locative case is being lost. Which case should it be merged with?

a). Accusative. 2
b). Instrumental. 5

The locative case will be merged with the instrumental case.

126. The dative case is being lost next. Which case should it be merged with?

a). Nominative. 2
b). Accusative. 2
c). Instrumental. 2
d). Genitive. 6

The dative case will be merged with the genitive case.
Notes (copied from the previous round):
Spoiler:
We'll be voting on which moods and cases to keep in the coming weeks, among other things. When an option says something like "get rid of the nominative", that doesn't mean we won't have any way to express the agent of a transitive verb or the experiencer of an intransitive verb; instead, it means that PIE's nominative case endings will no longer be used, and another case/another set of endings will take on the usages of the nominative case in addition to its own former usages. Hopefully that makes sense.

I'd strongly suggest looking up reconstructed verb and noun inflection charts for PIE to see which sets of endings you prefer. When the time comes for us to decide which cases and moods to merge, we will have to decide whether to use the first case or mood's endings, the second case or mood's endings, or a combination of the two sets. Hopefully that makes sense as well.

Inflection charts for verbs and nouns in PIE can be found on the Wikipedia pages I just linked to, among other places, although I can't guarantee they're the most reliable, complete, accessible, etc.

New questions:

127. The locative case is being merged with the instrumental case. Which case's suffixes should be used after this merger?

a). We should continue using the instrumental's suffixes alone.
b). We should now use the locative's suffixes alone.
c). We should use some sort of cross between the two sets of suffixes.

128. The dative case is being merged with the genitive case. Which case's suffixes should be used after this merger?

a). We should continue using the genitive's suffixes alone.
b). We should now use the dative's suffixes alone.
c). We should use some sort of cross between the two sets of suffixes.

129. Which case will be the last to be lost?

a). Nominative.
b). Accusative.
c). Instrumental.
d). Genitive.

130. I'd like for us to start making some decisions regarding syntax, primarily word order. Should we begin by focusing on the general word order of sentences/clauses, or that of phrases?

a). The general word order of sentences/clauses (the relative positions of the verb and its arguments, etc.).
b). The general word order of phrases (the relative positions of heads and their determiners, etc.).
c). We should focus first on some other aspect of syntax/word order (please elaborate).
d). We should focus on something else entirely (please elaborate).

More notes (copied from the previous round):

Approval voting. Let me know if I've counted something wrong or anything along those lines.

Suggestions for questions not related to phonology are welcome, but suggestions for possible answers are not. If, for example, case or mood endings are being merged, suggestions are naturally welcome, as there are so many possible outcomes. However, please save your suggestions for when a question specifically lists submissions as an option.
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127: a / b
128: a / b
129: d
130: b
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127) c
128) c
129) c
130) a
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127. B C
128. B
129. B
130. A
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Because this is a collablang I assume that I can diachronically create a partner language to this once we are done with the first stage.
127)A
128)C
129)AB
130)BC(Alignment?)
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qwed117 wrote:Because this is a collablang I assume that I can diachronically create a partner language to this once we are done with the first stage.
Uh, what do you mean?
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127. BC
128. C
129. AB
130. B
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