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Ahzoh wrote: ↑03 Jan 2019 02:21 Yay or nay,

Vrkhazhian should have ejective fricatives (that, like all fricatives, tend to affricate word-initially)?

The inventory would look like this:
https://www.frathwiki.com/Vrkhazhian#Consonants

Omzinesý wrote: ↑09 Jan 2019 19:25 Maybe it could have ejective fricatives as roducts of some morpho-phonological processes, but not on the lexical level.

Ahzoh wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019 01:51

Omzinesý wrote: ↑09 Jan 2019 19:25 Maybe it could have ejective fricatives as roducts of some morpho-phonological processes, but not on the lexical level.

Such as?

Omzinesý wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019 12:43

Ahzoh wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019 01:51

Omzinesý wrote: ↑09 Jan 2019 19:25 Maybe it could have ejective fricatives as roducts of some morpho-phonological processes, but not on the lexical level.

Such as?

I have no idea of your language's phonology, but generally, say there is a prefix ending in a glottal stop and a stem starting in a sibilant, they can realize as an ejective sibilant.
/ʔ/ + /s/ => [s']

shimobaatar wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019 13:29

Omzinesý wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019 12:43

Ahzoh wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019 01:51

Omzinesý wrote: ↑09 Jan 2019 19:25 Maybe it could have ejective fricatives as roducts of some morpho-phonological processes, but not on the lexical level.

Such as?

I have no idea of your language's phonology, but generally, say there is a prefix ending in a glottal stop and a stem starting in a sibilant, they can realize as an ejective sibilant.
/ʔ/ + /s/ => [s']

There's some information on the phonology on the page Ahzoh linked to.

gestaltist wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019 15:20

shimobaatar wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019 13:29

Omzinesý wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019 12:43

Ahzoh wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019 01:51

Omzinesý wrote: ↑09 Jan 2019 19:25 Maybe it could have ejective fricatives as roducts of some morpho-phonological processes, but not on the lexical level.

Such as?

I have no idea of your language's phonology, but generally, say there is a prefix ending in a glottal stop and a stem starting in a sibilant, they can realize as an ejective sibilant.
/ʔ/ + /s/ => [s']

There's some information on the phonology on the page Ahzoh linked to.

And providing it (or the relevant parts) would've constituted basic courtesy when they asked the question...

clawgrip wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019 14:14 I have two language families that occupy the same geographical area in a conworld. Although they are not related, for some reason or another they both form the passive voice through reduplication of the initial syllable of the stem. This was not actually planned, as I think I unconsciously reused the same idea in both languages before I even decided they were going to be in the same location. Examples from two languages from the two different families:

Nandut: pām "he writes" ; bapām "it is written"
Uyendur: ganur "he writes" ; gegnur "it is written"

It was an accident, but I kind of like how they share this unusual feature. Anyway, for various reasons, I have decided it is necessary for there to be a third language or language family that is not related to either of them, in the same location. This language family will not be as prominent and will be an isolate or very small family, one or two languages.

The question is, should I give this language the reduplicated passive as well, as some sort of weird areal thing, or should it just be something unrelated?

felipesnark wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019 14:52

clawgrip wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019 14:14 I have two language families that occupy the same geographical area in a conworld. Although they are not related, for some reason or another they both form the passive voice through reduplication of the initial syllable of the stem. This was not actually planned, as I think I unconsciously reused the same idea in both languages before I even decided they were going to be in the same location. Examples from two languages from the two different families:

Nandut: pām "he writes" ; bapām "it is written"
Uyendur: ganur "he writes" ; gegnur "it is written"

It was an accident, but I kind of like how they share this unusual feature. Anyway, for various reasons, I have decided it is necessary for there to be a third language or language family that is not related to either of them, in the same location. This language family will not be as prominent and will be an isolate or very small family, one or two languages.

The question is, should I give this language the reduplicated passive as well, as some sort of weird areal thing, or should it just be something unrelated?

I say 'yay', as an areal feature!

Ælfwine wrote: ↑12 Jun 2019 03:50 Yay or Nay: Crimean Gothic shall have front rounded vowels /ø/ and /y/ from PGmc *eu and *iu respectively.

I'm not sold on having front rounded vowels. Greek and Slavic influence suggests against them, but Crimean Tatar suggests for it. There is also no evidence for front rounded vowels in the corpus (but that doesn't mean CG may not have had it.) Still, I like the faux German look on the romanization (although this will obviously not apply to Cyrillic.)

Zekoslav wrote: ↑12 Jun 2019 11:12 When did the Crimean Tatars arrive in Crimea?

Ælfwine wrote: ↑12 Jun 2019 15:58

Zekoslav wrote: ↑12 Jun 2019 11:12 When did the Crimean Tatars arrive in Crimea?

Probably along with the Golden Horde, so 13th century.