Yes, you are right in that I didn't think their difference very much or make a very clear distinction between them. They are different but I think they are some kind of a continuum.eldin raigmore wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019 15:57Omzinesý wrote: ↑14 Aug 2019 22:35 I'm wondering subject properties of chain verb constructions. In (1), come and give share the subject and subject marking is straightforward, but in (2), the subject of die is the object of hit. How do languages with serial verbs mark it or should it just be understood from the context? I understand different languages do it differently but what strategies there are?
(1)
[ X ] [ [ come ] [ give Y ] ]
'X brought Y.'
(2)
[ X hit ( Y ] die )
'X killed Y.'
I think you might be getting clause-chaining mixed up with serial-verb constructions.
They’re not the same.
I also* made that mistake, so maybe it’s easy to make.
*(that is, I made that mistake. The word “also” is called for only if you made that mistake!)
Switch-reference marking is unnecessary and impossible in a serial-verb clause. It’s a single clause, it just has more than one verb. Typically they all have the same aspect, modality/mode/mood, polarity, tense, and voice; and all have the same subject. Frequently they are also required to all have the same valency. In the event they don’t all have the same subject, they usually all have the same object.
Switch-reference marking is necessary in clause-chains.
You’ll have an easier time finding information on-line about it if you know the right search-terms.
I wrote quite a bit about it, back in the day, on this board, and That Other Board; but maybe some of it has been purged.
Here’s some Google hits.Spoiler:
I think my examples of bring and kill are quite clear chain verbs though.
I'll check you links. Thank you once again!