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Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 09 Sep 2021 02:05
by tikoo
The member Lsd has this going on. So do I. A symbol=a sound=a sense.

Anyone can invent such a set of symbols. The choice of these is ultimately philosophical. It took me several years to settle on a set of elemental meanings that had balance. Mine has 30. Not too many, not to few. Oh, and I do play with them. I can make of them a bar trick, a fortune-telling schtick. Pretty young girls are fools for this. I can see they are mostly interested in sex. Not with me.

Make a set of symbols, perhaps just five , and with these you must make all the sense in the world. A Polynesian phoneme set may be only 17?

Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 09 Sep 2021 08:45
by Creyeditor
How about a language based on Tarot cards?

Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 09 Sep 2021 08:48
by Khemehekis
tikoo wrote: 09 Sep 2021 02:05 Make a set of symbols, perhaps just five , and with these you must make all the sense in the world.
You mean Zener cards?

Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 09 Sep 2021 16:52
by DV82LECM
I have wanted to derive a language from US state abbreviations.

Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 09 Sep 2021 18:11
by tikoo
The 3S language gets insults. It is for crazy people they say. It is childish they say. I say it has power and is of a naturalistic mind: this is its magic.

Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 09 Sep 2021 18:48
by Creyeditor
I didn't mean it as a result. I was actually thinking of making such a sketchlang, because the Tarot card concepts are famously flexible.

Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 10 Sep 2021 00:40
by tikoo
Creyeditor wrote: 09 Sep 2021 18:48 I didn't mean it as a result. I was actually thinking of making such a sketchlang, because the Tarot card concepts are famously flexible.
Cool. Do you relate Carl Jung's ideas of cultural symbolism?

Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 10 Sep 2021 18:52
by Creyeditor
I don't know enough about it.

Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 10 Sep 2021 21:53
by tikoo
In the tarot or the runes each symbol is a story like a dream. It can be a lot of work to translate these complex thoughts into social language.

Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 12 Sep 2021 00:55
by tikoo
I imagine a randomly generated 3S language useful to A.I. for making a conversation bot. Every combination of symbols is always a word. I hope the randomness is touchable. It's been proposed this randomness might be cued to micro-wind speed. Something of nature.

Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 20 Sep 2021 22:16
by JANKO GORENC
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Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 22 Sep 2021 20:04
by tikoo
The chosen set of meanings for a 3S language will constitute a philosophy.

Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 23 Sep 2021 03:54
by Shemtov
Creyeditor wrote: 09 Sep 2021 18:48, because the Tarot card concepts are famously flexible.
For example, somebody can look at The World Card and think of a bisexual English vampire who can pause time and who turned a Catholic priest gay.

Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 23 Sep 2021 08:57
by Creyeditor
Sounds like Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 24 Sep 2021 01:58
by tikoo
For cartoonish humans attitude is more important than philosophy. At the root of my philosophy is the creative language of children. I have more respect for it than to think it meaningless play. I was once employed to help a kid who was devoted to his personal language. He so loved it he submitted to being Special Ed and so protected it. After some time, we could make music with his language. He could sing free. This was his graduation from school.

Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 08 Oct 2021 03:01
by elemtilas
Tarot. A thousand year old dream from China.

Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 13 Oct 2021 17:40
by tikoo
jabo ye

Re: Playing with 3S Language

Posted: 17 Oct 2021 03:10
by tikoo
I find a 3S language is not well suited to linear writing. It's good for conversation and art. These relate to an immediate context of existence. I could not write a story in 3S without illustration or some such relational context.