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A new lang combining some old ideas - name will be found up later

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My older projects that affect this one are Kahicali (with its several versions) and Karu, which is a reasent lang of mine. It will also seek for inspiration in Lakota.

Ideas
- Open syllables only
- Incorporation
- Two cases: Direct and Oblique
- Most head-marking
- ATM im interested in articles that code definiteness and number
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Consonants
p t k <p t k>
s ʃ ç x <s š ȟ h>
m n <m n>
l r j <l r j>

Vowels
i ĩ wi wĩ u ũ <i į wi wį u ų>
e we o <e we o>
ä ã wa wã <a ą wa wą>

Syllable structure:
(C)(C)V

The allowed consonant clusters are:
plosive + fricative/liquid
{p t k} + {s ʃ ç x l r}

Stress
All words have one (main) stress that usually falls on one of the first syllables and never appears on the last syllable.
The stressed syllable has a contrast between mid (or slightly lowering tone) and a sharply rising tone.

Stress with mid tone is written with acute <á> (might be omitted on the first syllable), and stress with the rising tone is written with circumflex <â>
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Nominal Morphology

Morphological nouns
The only obligatory inflection of nouns is case. There are two cases: Direct and Oblique. Oblique is formed from Direct by changing the last vowel.

Direct => Oblique
a => e / o
wa => we
i => e
wi => we
u => o
ą => ąme
wą => ume
ų => ųme
į => įme
wį => ume

Articles
Articles code number and defiteness/specificity/deixis. There are four numbers: Singular, Dual, Paucal, and Plural. There are six degrees of definiteness: Definite Anaphoric, Definite Deictic, Indefinite, Nonspecific, and (coded with no article) Generic.

Code: Select all

Singular, Dual, Paucal, Plural
Anaphoric kwe tu swe twi
Deictic jo ta mi te
Indefinite šu hu to hwa
Nonspecific mo lwi swe jwe
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Syntax of NPs

The lang is left-branching. Complex NPs are: [article] [genitive] [adjective*] [noun]

*There aren't real adjectives but stative verbs but here it is not important.

Genitive attributes appear in Oblique case.

Compounds also appear. The head follows the modifier.


Coordination of two nouns
There is no word for 'and'. Two words are just juxtaposed and they share a common article. The article appears in Dual if there are two nouns cordinated and in Paucal or Plural if there are more. The phenomenon resembles dvandva compounds but is syntactic rather than lexical.
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Verb morphology

I'm stealing quite much from Karu (my older project) verb. The exact content of the slot 2 is still unclear. How many voices does the language need.

The preliminary verb template is:
-1[incorporation] 0[stem], 1[inceptive, cessiative, causative] 2[reciprocal, reflexive, autobenefactive, applicative] 3[passive, perfect], 4[mood, agreement], 5[volitionality, resultative, negation]

The slot 5 is copied from Karu (some sounds are changed). It combines markers of volitionality, resultativity (aspect), and negation. The slot is "not obligatory", that is, the values can be unmarked. Negation must, however, have a stance on volitionality (if you reject doing something or cannot do something).

-Ø - unmarked
ne - Volitional
ši - Nonvolitional
se - Resultative
wa - Irresultative
la - Volitional negative ('reject')
me - Nonvolitional negative ('cannot')
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What is genation?
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eldin raigmore wrote: 16 Nov 2021 18:03 What is genation?
How can negation turn to genation when I copy-paste the section from Karu thread. [xP]
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Omzinesý wrote: 17 Nov 2021 16:58 How can negation turn to genation when I copy-paste the section from Karu thread. [xP]
I see! And you’ve already corrected it in the relevant post! Thanks!
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Verbs have two sets of person suffixes:
a) ones appearing after a stop
b) ones appearing after other phonemes.

rop-š-a
say-SG1-MOOD*

* Not sure what that mood slot will be.

-š 1srp
-l 2ndp/PROXIMATE
-Ø 3dp
-raw PL1INCL

ropša 'I said'
ropla 'you said', 's/he (present) said'
ropa 's/he said'
roprawa 'we said'

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me you her us 
I ... -up -š ...
you -eh ... -l ... 
she -an -om -Ø -ter
we ... ... -raw ...
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