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I don’t have everything mentioned in this post https://cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=10#p10 yet for my Arpien conlang.
I did work up it’s 100-rule context-free generative grammar; I think I’ve posted it either elsewhere on the CBB or on other conlanging sites many CBBeans have seen it on.
That includes its 102 word-classes or lexical categories. 22 of them are open and 80 of them are closed.
I have its phoneme inventory, but I’ve never published it and I’ll need to look it up to post it on this thread, sometime later.
I do not have much of its vocabulary or lexicon yet.

This post is just to talk about its adverbs.
It has five different word-classes or parts-of-speech that should* be called “adverbs”.
(*That is, modifiers which don’t modify nouns nor NPs.)
Only one of them — the ad-clausal or ad-sentential adverbs class — is an open class.
The other four are closed classes.
One class modifies ad-clausal adverbs. I might call them ad-adverbial adverbs.
One class modifies one-argument verbs. I might call them the ad-verbal adverbs.
One class modifies complementizers. I might call them ad-complementizer adverbs.
One class modifies adjectives. I might call them ad-adjectival adverbs.

….

I wanted to write that down before I forgot it.
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It's great that you started a thread on Arpien [:)]
Do you want to post example sentences at some point? Do you have enough vocabulary?
If not, maybe you could post all the rules involving adverbs?

Also, I think I came up with an ad-complementizer adverb use. In the phrase 'if and only if', the word 'if' is modified by 'only'. Does that count?
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Creyeditor wrote: 08 Jun 2022 08:39 It's great that you started a thread on Arpien [:)]
It’s great that you responded to it! [:)]

Do you want to post example sentences at some point?
Yes!

Do you have enough vocabulary?
No. [:'(]

If not, maybe you could post all the rules involving adverbs?
Yes, I can. I will do so in a bit.

The five production rules for phrases of which “adverbs” are the head are:
A —> A + C A are clauses, C are ad-clausal and ad-sentential adverbs.
C —> C + 33 C are ad-clausal and/or ad-sentential adverbs, 33 are ad-adverbial adverbs.
D —> D + 38 D are monovalent, one-noun verbs, 38 are ad-verbal adverbs.
E —> E + 43 E are complementizers, 43 are … ad-complementizer adverbs? I guess?
F —> F + 48 F are adjectives, 48 are ad-adjectival adverbs

There are also four other production rules involving class C, ad-clausal and/or ad-sentential adverbs.

Two production rules produce a class C phrase from an input phrase of some other open lexical class.
C —> A + G clausal conjunctions, including subordinators and FANBOYS.
C —> B + H one kind of postposition or case-marker; resulting phrase can modify an entire sentence or clause

Two production rules taking an ad-clausal adverb as input (ie not the head) and producing a phrase of some other open lexical class.
A —> C + O O is something like, a verb that makes a clause about an ad-clausal adverb.
B —> C + S S is something that nominalizes ad-clausal adverbs.

All the open classes and their rules:
Spoiler:
A clauses
B nouns
A —> A + C clausal adverbs
A —> B + D monovalent verbs
B —> A + E complementizers; an open class?
B —> B + F adjectives
C —> A + G clausal conjunctions, including subordinators and FANBOYS.
C —> B + H one kind of postposition or case-marker; resulting phrase can modify an entire sentence or clause
D —> A + I what turns a clause into a one-place verb?
D —> B + J bivalent verbs
E —> A + K don’t know yet
E —> B + L don’t know yet
F —> A + M relativizer
F —> B + N postposition creating a phrase that can modify a noun; for example, a genitive postposition.
A —> C + O a “verb” that takes an adverb as its argument?
A —> D + P “ “ “ “ “ verb “ “ “
A —> E + Q “ “ “ “ “ complementizer “ “ “
A —> F + R “ “ “ “ “ adjective “ “ “
B —> C + S something that nominalises clausal adverbs
B —> D + T nominalizers that nominalize one-place verbs
B —> E + U nominalizers that nominalize complementizers! Wow!
B —> F + V nominalizers that nominalize adjectives; like maybe “-ness” particles.

Classes 1-16 are ways of making clauses about classes G-V respectively.
Classes 17-32 are ways of nominalising classes G-V.

Classes 33-48 can make phrases of classes C-F out of a word or phrase of classes C-F.

Classes 49-64 can make phrases of classes G-V out of clauses (class A).
Classes 65-80 can make phrases of classes G-V out of nouns. I suppose that makes many (or most?) of them postpositions of various sorts.
But because of the production rule
J —> B + 68
class 68 is the small closed class of trivalent verbs. (e.g. give, show, tell).
(Unless I goofed up!)

Also, I think I came up with an ad-complementizer adverb use. In the phrase 'if and only if', the word 'if' is modified by 'only'. Does that count?
It might! I need to think about it.



Thanks!
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Wow, Arpien looks extremely sophisticated and complex!
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MissTerry wrote: 10 Jun 2022 02:55 Wow, Arpien looks extremely sophisticated and complex!
I don’t think it is, really; I think it looks that way because I posted its complete context-free grammar.
The number of closed and open word-classes is about average for a natural language.
The Chomsky normal form is about as simple as possible given the word-classes.

But I could be wrong.
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