http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl.t4.1/ ... r+kintermsIlargi wrote:*drool*eldin raigmore wrote:There are some (as I recall, Australian?) languages that have "triangular kinterms";
e.g. my-father-your-father, my-father-your-husband, my-husband-your-father, etc. are all different words.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627650.100-whats-in-a-word.html wrote:Christine Kenneally describes how linguists Nicholas Evans and Stephen Levinson have challenged Noam Chomsky's theory of a universal grammar in language (29 May, p 32). To support their argument, they point out that in some languages there are "some aspects that are not mastered until later in life", citing as an example the triangular kin terms of the Indigenous Australian language, Bininj Gun-wok, which speakers only begin to acquire in their twenties.
http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.anthro.32.061002.093137?journalCode=anthro wrote:Examples of the emergence of culturally patterned structure through use are drawn from various levels: the semantics of the lexicon, grammaticalized kin-related categories, and culture-specific organizations of sociolinguistic diversity, such as moiety lects, “mother-in-law” registers, and triangular kin terms.
http://azoulay.arts.usyd.edu.au/mpsong/JoeBlythe_files/JB_EthicalDatives.pdf wrote:Triangular kin terms, clan-lects, moietylects and ‘mother-in-law’ registers have evolved independently in languages that aren’t closely related.
http://blogs.usyd.edu.au/elac/2007/12/murriny_pathas_elided_progeny.html wrote:Murriny Patha is fun. Especially if you like "kintax" (Evans 2003), cause it's got it in spades. Murriny Patha keeps delivering weird phenomena that require unconventional nomenclature (see for instance Walsh 1996). "So what", I hear you asking, "is the 'elided progeny' construction?" In Murriny Patha it constitutes a subclass of what are clearly a group of "triangular" referring expressions, whereby a person-referent is referred to via "triangulation" - that is indirectly, via another person or persons. The most common of these are possessed kinterms: my father, your uncle, their cousin etc. The person that the kinterm is anchored to is frequently termed the propositus. Other classes of people may also take a propositus: e.g., John's bank manager. Arguably all kinterms are anchored to a propositus, regardless of whether the propositus is expressed overtly or not. Thus when an adult addresses a child, "Hey, where's daddy?", the altercentric kinterm Daddy has an implied 2nd person propositus. However the same adult, when talking to another adult, may use egocentric kinterms with an implied 1st person propositus i.e., "Mum is driving me mad."
on page 4, [url]http://www.words-in-world.de/mediapool/36/361457/data/Pragmatics_SS_2010_/Memo_session_12.pdf[/url] wrote:When it comes to the choice of vocabulary, there are the expressions of triangular kin terms (relation speaker-referent, referent-addressee and addressee-speaker) and the deferential and humiliative pairs of lexical items9
http://blogs.usyd.edu.au/elac/2008/03/cool_times_at_kioloa_1.html wrote:Different ways of tracking referents were discussed, from .... to principles of association, economy and recognition and how triangular kin terms and 'elided progeny' terms fit into them (Joe Blythe, Principles of referential design in Murriny Patha conversation).