Prepositions & Cases
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Prepositions & Cases
I've always thought of prepositions* and cases as kind of the same thing. Like two sides of the same coin.
I was wondering what you all thought about it. Do you have a preference for one over the other or do you like to make them work together?
*I know it's should adpositions, but sounds weird to me.
I was wondering what you all thought about it. Do you have a preference for one over the other or do you like to make them work together?
*I know it's should adpositions, but sounds weird to me.
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I have a fondness for case, especially on an overall suffixing project. Oh, aversive, I'll never leave you.
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I prefer adpositions. For one thing it means I don't have to make huge declension charts or really long 10-morpheme words.
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I know I originally disliked cases (thanks horrible German classes), but I'm starting to warm up to them (thanks Basque).Micamo wrote:I prefer adpositions. For one thing it means I don't have to make huge declension charts or really long 10-morpheme words.
My postpositions contribute to 10-morpheme long words. :D But that's the price you pay with agglutination.
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Really having the information all in one "word" or having it split up into multiple words doesn't really change much, but I prefer multiple smaller words over one huge one.Ossicone wrote:I know I originally disliked cases (thanks horrible German classes), but I'm starting to warm up to them (thanks Basque).Micamo wrote:I prefer adpositions. For one thing it means I don't have to make huge declension charts or really long 10-morpheme words.
My postpositions contribute to 10-morpheme long words. :D But that's the price you pay with agglutination.
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True, I'm just saying adpositions don't necessarily contribute to smaller word size.
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Only if you staple them to the word.Ossicone wrote:True, I'm just saying adpositions don't necessarily contribute to smaller word size.
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Hooray for clitic adpositions!
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And the same is true for cases. They don't have to be attached to the word. So cases don't necessarily contribute to longer words. Even if they are part of the word this could be true.Micamo wrote:Only if you staple them to the word.Ossicone wrote:True, I'm just saying adpositions don't necessarily contribute to smaller word size.
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I made clitics without evening knowing what they were! Yey?MrKrov wrote:Hooray for clitic adpositions!
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I prefer cases, mostly because I like nonconcatenative morphology and you can't do that with adpositions.
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This.MrKrov wrote:Hooray for clitic adpositions!
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I like prepositions. Not postpositions, prepositions. Although cases were the first thing I found out about when I got into conlanging.
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For some reason, I am nowhere near surprised.MrKrov wrote:Oh, aversive, I'll never leave you.
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As for myself, I have to admit that for quite a while I was severely uneducated as to cases, but I have seen the advantages through my studying Arabic. I can see the advantages of all types of morphosyntactic alignment.
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I'm not sure why you would be as I'd previously said that's my favorite case.
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I'm sure you realize that's not what I meant, but mayhaps I shouldn't assume too much.MrKrov wrote:I'm not sure why you would be as I'd previously said that's my favorite case.
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Once I really hated cases, because they are the hardest thing for me to learn in any language (regardless the fact that I catch grammar pretty quickly). But now I prefer to combine both cases and adpositions. Ríhannen, for instance, has four cases and about ten adpositions.
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I favor cases. I usually have prepositions, but omit them when they're not necessary.
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the advantages of cases is that you can make the word order as you want
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Same with affixed adpositions.vandlival wrote:the advantages of cases is that you can make the word order as you want
I really am starting to feel now that cases and adpositions are just the same thing. :|