Apart from minor differences, I wonder how many different approaches there are?jseamus wrote:The truth is, there will never be enough conlanging resources. No one resource can say it all, and there will always be a conlanger who needs a different approach, a new way of looking at things.
Besides your approach, I additonally would provide the ''traditional'' version.jseamus wrote: Phonetics and Phonology
I would then go into a basic description of phones, phonemes, etc. However, this description would probably differ from the traditional table of places and manners of articulation.
I wouldn't use the bold term in an intorductory text for similar reasons I rejected the term ''set of mental rules'' in a text for conlanging novices. And what exactly are ''raw vocal sounds? This might not be clear to a beginner.Phonemes are not the same as phones; while phones are raw vocal sounds, phonemes are more like groups of mental distinctions between speech sounds of different kinds.
In an introductory text, to my mind, you should give an overview of the topic, not going too much into depth. How would your emphasis in that would look like?jseamus wrote:This paragraph from "How to create a language" by Pablo David Flores is what I wanted to emphasis in phonetics/phonology.
Flores wrote:The immense (actually infinitely dense) range of possible sounds that a human being can produce are called phones. Each particular position of the lips, tongue, and other features in our organs of speech can be thought of a point in a multidimensional continuum. Given two positions of the tongue with respect to the interior of the mouth, there is always a position in the middle, and so on. Remember the real numbers from school?
A beginner needs not to know every detail. This is boring, because it makes you think that that details are important, which they aren't. Remember, it's just a hobby, and many of your readers will be pupils most likely. (If somebody really needs a conlang, e.g. for a movie, he most likely would ask professionals to do the job.)
In the story framework I provided, you could go in depth on every topic in steps. This would be way better for learning than giving it all in one chunk in one chapter. Generally, there could be summaries, of course. Or Sandy tries to make such summaries for learning. (I recommend you to google for 'Ranschburg inhibition'. Roughly said, it meens that being exposed to many things differing only in minor details, i.e. things which are similar, will actually keep you from really learning them.)
Ok, but see above.jseamus wrote:I would have focused on distinctive features and their use as the basis of contrasts between different phonemes. Here I could have brought up how different languages make use of different distinctive features, e.g. some (like French) distinguish vowel nasalization while others do not.
Totally agreed!jseamus wrote:All in all, I wanted to portray phonology as a space that the conlanger can fill in. The phonetic space has different dimensions and the conlanger can choose which points along those dimensions will be significant, defining phonological spaces that are language specific.
Agreed!jseamus wrote:Every language has its own sets of distinctions, and no language can be judged by the distinctions or contrasts of another language. Many people forget this, or don't understand it, and their ignorance and misunderstanding gives rise to what is called linguistic prescriptivism, ...
Ok, you could talk and write the way you like, but if you wanna be understood by others, you need at least a certain amount of what you here call ''prescriptivism''. And as it is very annoying to be constantly forced to figure out what the other means because of using unusual orthography, you will appreciate having a well developed set of orthographical rules enforced. And remember, it can be very interesting to be able to read texts form hunderts of years ago because of a conservative orthography.jseamus wrote:... the idea that there is one right way to talk or write, and it must be enforced.
Again, I wouldn't emphasis so much on ''rules that languages use'' in an introductory text. A language cannot ''use'' a rule, it can be described by rules, or utterances can be produced by ''rules''. Thing is, that it is quite convenient to look at a language as some kind of person, but this can be confusing to beginners. If you want rules for describing language or generating utterances, then it's ok!jseamus wrote:The basic theme of this resource would be that all languages use (or are composed of) "rules" to produce utterances. These rules can be used to describe any level of language structure, from phonology to syntax to lexicon.
Would be great if that could be incorporated in my story!jseamus wrote:I already mentioned the different kinds of rules I was going to cover:
jseamus wrote:1. Contrasts, e.g. vowel roundedness vs lack of roundedness. These kinds of rules would be based on features and their presence or absence.
2. Constitutions, e.g. "S -> NP VP". These kinds of rules would define one thing as the some other things arranged a certain way.
3. Transformations, e.g. "s > z /[+voiced]_#". These rules would cover sound changes, morphophonemic alternations, etc.
4. Paradigms, e.g. verb paradigms in Latin. Pretty self explanatory.
Nothing wrong with that, but more appropriate to a linguistics university student than a pupil starting with conlanging.Language description is commonly divided into subfields along a structural axis, from the smallest structural elements to the largest. We start at the "bottom" with phonology, and move up in scale to morphology, syntax, lexis, and pragmatics. Each field has its own terminology, its own problems to be solved and methods for solving them.
Can you explain more on that?jseamus wrote:But the divisions between the terminology and methods of description used in each field were daunting for me as a novice conlanger and student of language. If I could unite the description used phonology (for example) with that used in morphology, I think I would be doing other novice conlangers a service.