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English: horde
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Hungarian ezer “thousand” ~ Tamil āyiram “thousand”~ English mile
All from PIE *sm-g’éslom “one-thousand”
All from PIE *sm-g’éslom “one-thousand”
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English bite and English fibre (borrowed from Latin fibra)
both of them are from Proto-Indo-European *bʰeyd- ("to split")
both of them are from Proto-Indo-European *bʰeyd- ("to split")
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<dyqan> /dyc͡çan/ "Store" Yiddish /duxann̩/ "to preform the priestly blessings" both ultimately from Aramaic /dukanaʔ/ "Platform"
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English cybernetics(from which the prefix cyber- is derived) and government
both of cybernetics and government are ultimately derived from Ancient Greek κυβερνάω "I steer".
p.s. in modern society the government is sometimes metaphorised as a machine, which kinda is another connection between "government" and "cybernetics".
both of cybernetics and government are ultimately derived from Ancient Greek κυβερνάω "I steer".
p.s. in modern society the government is sometimes metaphorised as a machine, which kinda is another connection between "government" and "cybernetics".
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English orphan and robot
both words are ultimately from Proto-Indo-European *h₃órbʰos “orphan” or its predecessor *h₃erbʰ “to change or evolve status”
both words are ultimately from Proto-Indo-European *h₃órbʰos “orphan” or its predecessor *h₃erbʰ “to change or evolve status”
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Also, German Arbeit "work" also derives from the same root.k1234567890y wrote: ↑12 Apr 2021 19:57 English orphan and robot
both words are ultimately from Proto-Indo-European *h₃órbʰos “orphan” or its predecessor *h₃erbʰ “to change or evolve status”
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English Wales, Gaul, Walloon, Wallachia
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Polish "córka" /tsurka/
Russian "doč'" /dotS/
Russian "doč'" /dotS/
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Also Cornwall.
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Something that I found out today was that 'hour' 'year' and 'horoscope' are all related. Decided to check if someone had already got this one, and indeedy do:
The Greek route was also introduced into Sanskrit, and thus to Burmese ဟူးရား (/hújá/) 'astrology'Celi-Folia wrote: ↑02 Aug 2013 20:58 Here's an example of the opposite situation, where one might not expect these to be cognate but they are :XD
hour ·· Latin hora "hour, time, season" ·· Greek ὥρα "season" ·· PIE *yor-a- ·· PIE *yor-/*yer- "year, season" ·· PIE *yer-o- ·· Proto-Germanic *jæram ·· Old English gear ·· year
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"pumpkin", "melon" and "apricot" all share a common PIE root *pekʷ- "ripen":
- *pékʷ-i̯e > Greek πέπτω "ripen" > πέπων "large melon" > Latin pepō > Middle French pompon > English pumpkin
- *pékʷ-et-i > Proto-Italic *kʷekʷō > Latin QUOQUŌ > COQUŌ > PRÆCOQUUM "early-ripening" > PRÆCOCIA > Greek πραικόκιον > Byzantine Greek βερικοκκία "apricot tree" > Arabic الْبَرْقُوق (al-barqūq) "plums" > Catalan albercoc > abrecoc > English abrecock > apricock > apricot
- *pékʷ-ont-s > Greek πέπων "ripe" > μηλοπέπων "ripe apple" > Latin MĒLOPEPŌNEM "type of pumpkin" > MĒLŌNEM > Old French melon > English melon
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Chinese 珍珠 (Middle Chinese pronounciation: /ʈˠiɪn t͡ɕɨo/) "pearl" v.s. Hungarian gyöngy "pearl"
The Hungarian word is borrowed from Turkic, which is in turned borrowed from Chinese.
The Hungarian word is borrowed from Turkic, which is in turned borrowed from Chinese.
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In the opposite Direction: thiên /tʰiən/"Heaven [used only in compounds]" тэнгэр /tʰeŋ.ɡer/ "Sky; Heaven; Weather"k1234567890y wrote: ↑08 Nov 2022 20:17 borrowed from Turkic, which is in turned borrowed from Chinese.
PrTurkic *teŋri "Heaven; Tengri
>(borrowed via Xiongnu) Old :zho: 撐犁 *ṭhāŋ-rə̄>Late Old :zho: 天 *tʰi:n "Heaven"> Middle :zho: 天 *tʰen> (Borrowed) thiên
>(Borrowed) PrMongolic *teŋgeri>Middle/Classical /tenggeri/> тэнгэр
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salds (sweet)
salt
sauce
halogen
all come from PIE séh₂ls, which means salt.
salt
sauce
halogen
all come from PIE séh₂ls, which means salt.
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English "stile" and OCS stĭza "path"
Both from PIE *steygʰ- "go, march, climb"
Both from PIE *steygʰ- "go, march, climb"
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Like in "turnstile"?
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CC = Common Caber
CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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CC = Common Caber
CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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Yes, probably.
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Spanish quejarse "to complain, quarrel"
English quash "to defeat, annul"
Yiddish קוועטשן kvetshn "to squeeze, pinch, complain" (→ English kvetch "to complain incessantly")
English quash "to defeat, annul"
Yiddish קוועטשן kvetshn "to squeeze, pinch, complain" (→ English kvetch "to complain incessantly")