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Bear stories

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:ain: Kamuy orwa aynu a- rayke oruspe ku- nu amkir.
bear because_of Ainu 1PLI.TR.SUBJ- kill legend 1SG.SUBJ- hear have_experience_of
'I've heard stories where people are killed because of bears.

:con: Pag-buum
safk ŋam hom ga̤t laŋ haus k'aag
/safk ŋam xom gət laŋ xaus kʰaːg/
hear I story die people be.because.of bear
I've heard stories where people are killed because of bears.
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MrKrov wrote::con: Project #2
safk ŋam hom ga̤t laŋ haus k'aag
/safk ŋam xom gət laŋ xaus kʰaːg/
hear I story die people be.because.of bear
I've heard stories where people are killed because of bears.
:con: Arasamean
O ca feele-waat
[o 'hæ fe:lewæ:t]
Clause bear do-i.have.heard
Ory veele-ja-tahos-we waat-waat xo we
[oR ve:leʒætæhoswe wæ:twæ:t xo we]
Subclause do{transform}-die-recently-tribe,people i.have.heard-i.have.heard{stories,accounts) PL tribe,people
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:eng:
I've heard stories where people are killed because of animals.

:con: Zidhgebzhail - Assuming that the animals are doing the killing, rather than being indirectly responsible for the deaths.

vil zengtefk lIengkoan hoeng ozefaik kielilk Okhtun.
v-il zengt-ef-k l-Iengkoa-n hoeng oz-ef-aik kiel-il-k Ø-Okhtu-n.
1-ERG.SG.M story-ACC-PL.M PRFT-hear-SIMPLE REL_ESSIVE man-ACC-PL.ANDR animal-ERG-PL.M PRS-kill-SIMPLE
I have heard stories 'about' people being killed by animals.
Life's a bitch, then you die.

Zidhgebzhail Orthography
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:fra:

J'ai entendu des histoires de personnes tuées par des ours.
I have-1S.PRES hear-PAST.PART the.P.PART stories of persons killed-PAST.PART.FEM.PLUR by the.P.PART bears
[ʒe ɑ̃.tɑ̃.dy dɛ zis.twaʁ də pɛʁ.sɔn tɥe paʁ dɛ zuχs]
[ʒe ã.tã.dzy de zɪs.twɑʁ də pɛʁ.sɔn tsɥe paʁ de zuχs] :qbc:
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:tan: Swahili:

Nimesikia hadithi ambazo watu wauawa na dubu.
ni-me-siki(a) hadithi amba-zo watu w-a-u(a)-w(a) na dubu
1s-PRF-hear story(CL9/10) REL-CL10.REL people(CL2) CL2-AOR-kill-PASS COM bear
I've heard stories where people are killed by bears.

(If it really had to be because of bears rather than by bears, then you'd swap na dubu for kwa sababu ya dubu COM cause GEN bear)
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific, AG = agent, E = entity (person, animal, thing)
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:chn: Mandarin (attempt)

我听说了别人被熊杀掉的故事。
Wǒ tīngshuōle biérén bèi xióng shādiào de gùshì.
1SG hear-say-PERF people PAS bear kill-RESULT ATTR story
I've heard stories about people getting killed by bears.
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:got: :con: Modern Gotski

Ek em hužans spelas ab manas fram beras uskumans verdan.
Ек ем хужанс спелас аб манас фрам берас ускуманс вердан.

I am hear-Past.Part story-Acc.Pl about person-Nom.Pl from bear-Gen.Pl kill-Past.Part become-3P.Pl
/ek em huːʒans speo ab manas fram beras uːskuːmans ʋerdan/
I've heard stories about people being killed by bears/
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:con: Yélian

Yirîyai pliatgúran pi palan dòilkvenoʻi groan.
[ɕɨˈɾiːʃaɪ̯ plɪ̯.ɐˈguːɾɐn pi ˈpaːlɐn ˈdɔʊ̯lkvənɔ̈ʔi ˈgɾoː.ɐn]
PST-hear-1SG story-PL that people.PL COND-kill-COND.INV.3PL bear
I've heard stories about people being killed by bears.

:con: Caélian

Rar palahuic, zordos folanuin pakatyen külokkim, sisuzuri.
[rah pʰalaˈhuɪ̯ç, zɔɾˈdɔʃ βɔlaˈnuɪ̯n pʰakʰaˈtʲɛn kʰylɔˈkʰim ʒiʒuzuˈri]
1SG.NOM story.PL.ACC, about people.PL.ACC bear.PL.NOM kill.3PL>3PL, PST-hear.1SG>3PL
I've heard stories about people being killed by bears.

:con: Utseech

Il hav gehören toris üva lewen dethân wadech getöeten durl bärech.
[ɪɫ haf gəˈhøːɹən ˈtoːɹɨs ˈyvə ˈlewən ˈdetɚn ˈwaːdəç gəˈtøə̯tən duɾl ˈbɛːɹəç]
1SG.NOM AUX.PST.1SG hear.PP story.PL about people REL AUX.PAS.3PL kill.PP by bear.ACC.PL
I've heard stories about people being killed by bears.
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:con: Θrūváṛvāma / Thurvic

Suhrastáṇrugis psîhmium ṛum mc̣agárria vari riq̇áhhi ámār ṭyūhíryati.
[suxrɑsˈtɑŋruɰis ˈpsiːxmi.um r̥um mtsʼɑˈɰɑrːi.ɑ ˈʋɑri riˈqʼɑxːi ˈɑmɑːr tʼjuːˈxirjɑti]

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su-xrastan-rʋa-is psiːxm-i-um r̥um ˈʋari ˈmtsʼaˈɰar-ri.a ri-qʼaxx-i-Ø am-aːr tʼjuːx-i-rjati
1SG-hear-3PL.OBJ-PST story-ACC.PL REL 3PL-be-PRS DIST.PL-INES 3PL-die(violently)-3PL-PRS man-PL bear-PL-ELAT
"I've heard stories where people are killed because of bears."
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Void wrote: 06 May 2020 19:45 :con: Θrūváṛvāma / Thurvic

Suhrastáṇrugis psîhmium ṛum mc̣agárria vari riq̇áhhi ámār ṭyūhíryati.
[suxrɑsˈtɑŋruɰis ˈpsiːxmi.um r̥um mtsʼɑˈɰɑrːi.ɑ ˈʋɑri riˈqʼɑxːi ˈɑmɑːr tʼjuːˈxirjɑti]

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su-xrastan-rʋa-is psiːxm-i-um r̥um ˈʋari ˈmtsʼaˈɰar-ri.a ri-qʼaxx-i-Ø am-aːr tʼjuːx-i-rjati
1SG-hear-3PL.OBJ-PST story-ACC.PL REL 3PL-be-PRS DIST.PL-INES 3PL-die(violently)-3PL-PRS man-PL bear-PL-ELAT
"I've heard stories where people are killed because of bears."
No, not really.

Sutícharvum qirθuárimak ūrúmśigan tṛaváhha mrūgār ṭyūhhma.
[suˈtitsxɑrʋum qirθuˈʔɑrimɑk uːˈrumʃiʁɑn tr̥ɑˈʋɑxːɑ ˈmruːʁɑːr ˈtʼjuːxːmɑ]
1SG-hear-3PL.OBJ-N.FUT-PRF story-PL-ABS REL-3PL-die-N.FUT-GNOM-REL DIST.PL-INES person-PL-ABS bear-PL-EL
'I've heard stories where people are killed because of bears.'
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:con: Paatherye

Ēku rī sīn șēkatayen pūye ēsdi mudemtā hīkar krāti cā ēphiyen.
[ˈeːku riː siːn ʃeːkaˈtajen ˈpuːje ˈeːsði muˈðemtaː ˈhiːkaɾ ˈkɾaːti t͡saː eːˈpʰi.en]
1SG.NOM hear.IPF.1SG INDEF.PL.ACC story.PL.ACC about COP.GER kill.GDV bear.DAT by REL.ANIM.PL.ACC people.PL.ACC
I've heard stories about people being killed by bears.

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șēkata - story, occurence
Etymology: from șēkame "to be executed (occurence), to happen"

hārke - bear
Etymology: from PIE *h₂r̥tḱós "destroyer, destroying", compare Ancient Greek ἄρκτος arktos "bear" or Latin ursus "bear"
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:con: Awatese

Ątu nątukumehekmehekyo ane ban mitą.
[ɐ.tu nɐ.tu.ku.me.hek.me.hek.jo a.ne bã mi.tɐ]
PASS HSY-G9.SUB-G9.OBJ-kill~PLUR-PAS people bear from-G9
"I've heard that people have been killed because of bears."
ngąxayo peřwa a nałatą zehą, Irkąlą a tinąk a pehenątą zehą; nał a zehą, xąnituhąpąkałąpą he xąhatunąhąx; dą a zehą, xąnihąhaningnumąnwąpąnawe; nał a zehą, tan tukuhoyohoyopąnawe henąngahenąngatą a pwązi...
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:con: Asta

A little bit on the clunky side as translations go, but probably the best way to convey all the information in the original sentence in a context-free setting would be the following:

mityaxən tyən ‘iya‘əx‘ax yitə nya‘xwəx
1sg-Vpl-hear Vpl-thing 3erg-Ipl-strike-NOM-PL Ipl-person IIpl-bear
I've heard stories where people are killed because of bears

But in actuality I reckon an Asta speaker would be more likely to say something like this with the indirect evidential -ra:

nya‘xwəx ‘iya‘əxrax yitə
IIpl-bear 3erg-Ipl-strike-IND-PL Ipl-person
I've heard bears kill people
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:con: Rireinutire

kaki pekena mokiva sakira kave kituno semi siikave:
/ˈkɑki ˈpekenɑ ˈmokivɑ ˈsɑkiɹɑ ˈkɑve ˈkituno ˈsemi ˈsiːkɑve/
kaki peke-na mo-ki-va saki-ra kave kitu-no semi sii-ka-ve ||
which.REL story-PTV hear-PST-SENS that-INE woman.NOM bear-GEN because.of die-PRS-HSY ||

I've heard stories where people are killed because of bears.
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ɻaŋaɻik mapimin ɻamatʈaŋkilʈaŋkica kuŋpiŋt̪uca
ɻa-aɻik ma-pimin ɻa-ma-t-ʈaŋ-ŋki~<l>~ʈaŋ-ŋki-ca kuŋ-wi-ŋ-l̪u-ca
ANIM-black.bear masc-human 3ANIM-3-MASC-Erg.Pl/Abs.Pl-corpse-FACT-DIST~REDUP-PST 1.Erg-3ABST.-Erg.sg/Abs.sg-hear-PST
I heard black bears have killed people

Complementizers are nonexistent thus far, and conjunctions like "and" as in "Bears killed people and I heard it" are especially unlikely for verbs with evidentiary meanings.
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:con: 3SDL
xÌy½x¿ÎÂzÁa¿½z¿Âz½_zÒrÒ_üÁ
(me hearing words about men killed by animals in shape of giant man with fur...)
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:con: Abaniscen

Ni shallan, i cielnaresnemor chiusce i arharennemor hocar ciey, novimor.
1sg.GEN story 3sg.GEN people-PL<GEN> death 3sg.GEN wild_animal-PL<GEN> cause about hear-ITER
[ˈnʲiʃallan ʔʲikʲɛlˌnaɾɛsnɛˈmoɾxʲuskɛ ʔʲiʔaˌtʼaɾɛnneˈmotʼɔkaɾ kʲɛjˈnovʲimɔɾ]
I've heard stories about some people being killed by bears.

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It seems there are two different interpretations of the sentence. Either being killed by bears or being killed by others because of bears.
So here are two versions:

:con: Naguil

Eorembil naldais fiel bennes ma lyrnil bagunes anao / ansain.
/ɛɔ'rɛmbil 'naɫdais fjɛl 'bɛnːɛs ma 'lyːrnil 'baːgunɛs a'naːɣo / an'zaːim./
I heard stories there people become killed while bears the reason / the sake.
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Eo-remb-il nald-ai-s f-iel benn-e-s ma-Ø lyrn-il bag-un-es a-nao-Ø / an-sain-Ø.
1SG-hear-PST story-AKK-PL there-LOC human-NOM-PL become-COP.PRS kill-PST.PTCP bear-TMP-PL DEF.ART-source-ABL / DEF.ART-sake-ALL.
Eorembil naldais fiel bennes ilyrnas baguas.
/ɛɔ'rɛmbil 'naɫdais fjɛl 'bɛnːɛs i'yːrnas 'baːgwas./
I heard stories there people being killed of bears.
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Eo-remb-il nald-ai-s f-iel benn-e-s i-lyrn-as bag-ua-s.
1SG-hear-PST story-AKK-PL there-LOC human-NOM-PL 3PL-kill-PRS.MED bear-ABL-PL.
There's even bennes ilyrnas bagunes anao possible, which could translate to people killing themselves because of bears [:D]

anao /a'naːɣo/ = short form of anargua = out of the source / ground / reason
ansain /an'zaːim/ = short form of ansalmia = to the sake / matter / problem
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