In the beginning
In the beginning
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Nizhmel
T’ircélnom nefhum lidned mirteqliq K’an.
t’ir-cél-nom nef-hum lid-ned mir-teq-liq k’an
first-beginning-LOC heaven-heaven earth-also create-make-3s God
[tʼɪɐ̯ʧʰɪɤ̯nɔ̃ nɛhɜ̃ liʔnɛʔ mɪɐ̯tʰɛʔliʔ kʼɑ̃]
Wakeu
I ta kuni ko papoko a Ta Wata ta ngoa we ta tawa.
LOC SG beginning PFV create ERG SG God SD heaven and SG earth
[iː ta ˈkuːni ko̞ paːˈpo̞ːko̞ aː ta ˈWɑːta ta ˈŋo̞ːa wə ta ˈtaːwɑ]
Since there's an abundance of natlang translations easily accessible through sites like Biblegateway, I think it'd be a good idea to focus on conlangs in this TC.
Nizhmel
T’ircélnom nefhum lidned mirteqliq K’an.
t’ir-cél-nom nef-hum lid-ned mir-teq-liq k’an
first-beginning-LOC heaven-heaven earth-also create-make-3s God
[tʼɪɐ̯ʧʰɪɤ̯nɔ̃ nɛhɜ̃ liʔnɛʔ mɪɐ̯tʰɛʔliʔ kʼɑ̃]
Wakeu
I ta kuni ko papoko a Ta Wata ta ngoa we ta tawa.
LOC SG beginning PFV create ERG SG God SD heaven and SG earth
[iː ta ˈkuːni ko̞ paːˈpo̞ːko̞ aː ta ˈWɑːta ta ˈŋo̞ːa wə ta ˈtaːwɑ]
Since there's an abundance of natlang translations easily accessible through sites like Biblegateway, I think it'd be a good idea to focus on conlangs in this TC.
Re: In the beginning
Castelese
Am eo comenciu, Eo Deo creut ei cilos éi ea teirra.
[am‿ew ko.men.sjũ ew dew kɾe.ut e.i sil.us ej‿ja tej.ra]
Glossing requires too much brain power from me at this time.
Am eo comenciu, Eo Deo creut ei cilos éi ea teirra.
[am‿ew ko.men.sjũ ew dew kɾe.ut e.i sil.us ej‿ja tej.ra]
Glossing requires too much brain power from me at this time.
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Re: In the beginning
Ƿæſtlagȝarſpacın
¹Jn Ortıȷmarın ſcapt Gvþr Hımların and Ærþın.
/in ortʰi:mɑrin skɑptʰ guθr̩ him.lɑrin ɑnd ær.θin/
Jn Ortıȷm(a)-ar-ın ſcap-t Gvþ-r Hım(ę)l-r-ın and Ærþ-ın
in beginning-GEN-DEF make-PAST God-NOM heaven-ACC_PL-DEF and earth-DEF
¹Jn Ortıȷmarın ſcapt Gvþr Hımların and Ærþın.
/in ortʰi:mɑrin skɑptʰ guθr̩ him.lɑrin ɑnd ær.θin/
Jn Ortıȷm(a)-ar-ın ſcap-t Gvþ-r Hım(ę)l-r-ın and Ærþ-ın
in beginning-GEN-DEF make-PAST God-NOM heaven-ACC_PL-DEF and earth-DEF
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Re: In the beginning
Veletan:
Tulutc lituzh lolugm xogutl ixorutluvj.
beginning.TEMP create.FAR-PST deity.ERG outer-space.ABS 1st-PRS-PL-GEN.planet.ABS.COM
Tulutc lituzh lolugm xogutl ixorutluvj.
beginning.TEMP create.FAR-PST deity.ERG outer-space.ABS 1st-PRS-PL-GEN.planet.ABS.COM
ILR 5 =
ILR 4 =
ILR 3 = None
ILR 2 =
ILR 1 = None
Abandoned = :gla: (Scots), :sqi:, :heb:,
Current Obsession = ASL
ILR 4 =
ILR 3 = None
ILR 2 =
ILR 1 = None
Abandoned = :gla: (Scots), :sqi:, :heb:,
Current Obsession = ASL
Re: In the beginning
Sūðrasāl-
Ê þë Nemüne, makked der Frey Matere yeße Übrclede en þë Ærdte.
[e: θe: ne.my.nә | ma.k:әd dɝʶ frɛj ma.tɛ.ʁә je.s:ә y.bɝ.ʦlɛ.dә en θe: æʶt.θә]
Çetaran –
Neÿu Neceudtum, le Deo feç* lus cæla etçe al derr.
[ne.ʝu nә.sɛw.tum | l̪e d̪ɛo fɛʃ l̪us sɛ:.l̪ɒ e.ʧe ɒl̪ d̪ɛr̃]
* could also say le Deo creaù
Ê þë Nemüne, makked der Frey Matere yeße Übrclede en þë Ærdte.
[e: θe: ne.my.nә | ma.k:әd dɝʶ frɛj ma.tɛ.ʁә je.s:ә y.bɝ.ʦlɛ.dә en θe: æʶt.θә]
Spoiler:
Neÿu Neceudtum, le Deo feç* lus cæla etçe al derr.
[ne.ʝu nә.sɛw.tum | l̪e d̪ɛo fɛʃ l̪us sɛ:.l̪ɒ e.ʧe ɒl̪ d̪ɛr̃]
Spoiler:
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Re: In the beginning
This seems really weird to me. Is "the beginning" considered a place in Wakeu?Xing wrote:LOC
ILR 5 =
ILR 4 =
ILR 3 = None
ILR 2 =
ILR 1 = None
Abandoned = :gla: (Scots), :sqi:, :heb:,
Current Obsession = ASL
ILR 4 =
ILR 3 = None
ILR 2 =
ILR 1 = None
Abandoned = :gla: (Scots), :sqi:, :heb:,
Current Obsession = ASL
Re: In the beginning
Overlap between spatial and temporal metaphor is pretty common. English has it as well.
at home
LOC home
at 9 o'clock
LOC 9 o'clock
at home
LOC home
at 9 o'clock
LOC 9 o'clock
力在公蝦米????
flags
flags
Re: In the beginning
Don't most languages have it?xinda wrote:Overlap between spatial and temporal metaphor is pretty common. English has it as well.
at home
LOC home
at 9 o'clock
LOC 9 o'clock
Re: In the beginning
Hra'anh
Jeez, there are a bunch of ways to say it, which vary based on dialect.
North Hra'anh eliminates the grammar that was borrowed from Bosk'e, making it a completely regular sentence despite use of the passive to focus Akh as the agent:
E malathi ail, chreka e shale ih Hra ke Akh.
[ɛ ˈmɑ.lɑ.t̪i ɑil ʃə.ˈɾe.kɑ ɛ ˈʃa.lɛ iç ɹɑ ke ˈɑx]
South Hra'anh uses the nominative-accusative "standard God-agreement" paradigms borrowed from Bosk'e, an effectively dead language, rather than the standard ergative-absolutive alignment that pervades normal Hra'anh:
E malathi ail, Akh eb shale ih eb Hra chreka.
[ɛ ˈmɑ.lɑ.t̪i ɑil ˈɑkh ɛb ˈʃɑ.lɛ iç ɛb ɹɑ ʃə.ˈɾɛ.kɑ]
West Hra'anh and Vi'aka Hra'anh both mark the verb specially when Akh is the subject, something which Hra's greatest language scholars can't explain the origin of:
Ail malathi, Akh e shale ih Hra maidichreka.
[ɑil ˈmɑ.lɑ.θ ˈɑx e ˈʃɑ.le iç ɹɑ mɑi.di.ˈʃe.kɑ]
Or (West only; due to freer word order working with polypersonal agreement, subject/agent/focus fronting is standard)
Akh ail malathi, e shale ih Hra maidichreka.
[ˈɑx ɑil ˈmɑ.lɑ.θ e ˈʃɑ.le iç ɹɑ mɑi.di.ˈʃe.kɑ]
Or (this standard West example would be considered blasphemy in the South dialect due to heavy importance placed upon the name Akh)
Pep ail malathi, e shale ih Hra maidichreka.
[pep ɑil ˈmɑ.lɑ.θ e ˈʃa.le iç ɹɑ mɑi.di.ˈʃe.kɑ]
Jeez, there are a bunch of ways to say it, which vary based on dialect.
North Hra'anh eliminates the grammar that was borrowed from Bosk'e, making it a completely regular sentence despite use of the passive to focus Akh as the agent:
E malathi ail, chreka e shale ih Hra ke Akh.
[ɛ ˈmɑ.lɑ.t̪i ɑil ʃə.ˈɾe.kɑ ɛ ˈʃa.lɛ iç ɹɑ ke ˈɑx]
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e malathi ail chrek-a e shal-e ih Hra ke Akh
DEF beginning in PASS.make-PST DEF star-PL and world OBL God
E malathi ail, Akh eb shale ih eb Hra chreka.
[ɛ ˈmɑ.lɑ.t̪i ɑil ˈɑkh ɛb ˈʃɑ.lɛ iç ɛb ɹɑ ʃə.ˈɾɛ.kɑ]
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e malathi ail Akh eb shal-e ih eb Hra chrek-a
DEF beginning in God.NOM DEF.ACC star-PL and DEF.ACC world create-PST
Ail malathi, Akh e shale ih Hra maidichreka.
[ɑil ˈmɑ.lɑ.θ ˈɑx e ˈʃɑ.le iç ɹɑ mɑi.di.ˈʃe.kɑ]
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ail malathi Akh e shal-e ih Hra mai-di-chrek-a
in beginning God DEF star-PL and world 3.ANM-3.INM-create-PST
Akh ail malathi, e shale ih Hra maidichreka.
[ˈɑx ɑil ˈmɑ.lɑ.θ e ˈʃɑ.le iç ɹɑ mɑi.di.ˈʃe.kɑ]
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Akh ail malathi e shal-e ih Hra mai-di-chrek-a
God in beginning DEF star-PL and world 3.ANM-3.INM-create-PST
Pep ail malathi, e shale ih Hra maidichreka.
[pep ɑil ˈmɑ.lɑ.θ e ˈʃa.le iç ɹɑ mɑi.di.ˈʃe.kɑ]
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pep ail malathi e shal-e ih Hra mai-di-chrek-a
3M in beginning DEF star-PL and world 3.ANM-3.INM-create-PST
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Re: In the beginning
Alahithian
Pa sec erefas davon ol om dekirk pa dafag pa udak jix
[pa seʈʂ e.'ɾe.fas 'da.voɳ oɭ om 'de.kiɾk pa 'da.fag pa 'u.dak ɖʐix]
DEF first change at PR 1s create-PRS DEF sky-PL DEF land with
Pa sec erefas davon ol om dekirk pa dafag pa udak jix
[pa seʈʂ e.'ɾe.fas 'da.voɳ oɭ om 'de.kiɾk pa 'da.fag pa 'u.dak ɖʐix]
DEF first change at PR 1s create-PRS DEF sky-PL DEF land with
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Re: In the beginning
Kobardon
Friuat trenton deprofo iumfon ob frēuon iēpat.
[ˈfri.wat ˈtrɛn.tɔn de.ˈpro.fo ˈjum.pfɔn ˈfre˦.won ˈje˦.pat]
friu-at________trent-on_____de-pro-fo_________iumf-on_____ob__frēu-on_______iēp-at.
start-ADV.SING god-DEF.SING 3sg>-animate->3rd sky-DEF.SING and earth-DEF.SING once-ADV.SING
Friuat trenton deprofo iumfon ob frēuon iēpat.
[ˈfri.wat ˈtrɛn.tɔn de.ˈpro.fo ˈjum.pfɔn ˈfre˦.won ˈje˦.pat]
friu-at________trent-on_____de-pro-fo_________iumf-on_____ob__frēu-on_______iēp-at.
start-ADV.SING god-DEF.SING 3sg>-animate->3rd sky-DEF.SING and earth-DEF.SING once-ADV.SING
Edit: formatting
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Re: In the beginning
Leb tovsimStív, Trešte leb sabil te leb krabeÉqütqéz.
DEF.ART beginning-when, master* DEF.ART sky and DEF.ART soil-create-3SG-PST
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Talva le tamvel, Megmalf le ságmel te leb kraabe kostanikays.
when DEF.ART beginning, master* DEF.ART sky and DEF.ART soil create-3SG-PST
*There is no real word in Maxédri or Faljüdax for "god".
DEF.ART beginning-when, master* DEF.ART sky and DEF.ART soil-create-3SG-PST
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Talva le tamvel, Megmalf le ságmel te leb kraabe kostanikays.
when DEF.ART beginning, master* DEF.ART sky and DEF.ART soil create-3SG-PST
*There is no real word in Maxédri or Faljüdax for "god".
Maxédri
Faljüdax
Re: In the beginning
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Zidhgebzhail
maenoth krraistkebozaungaik (hyt) bautjodzwaethaik viloudef liemiedzhefa vitaarril-zaeraik gOn.
maenoth krraist-keb-oz-aung-aik (hyt)
HEARSAY_REPORTATIVE_EVIDENTIAL Christ-folk-man-INSTR-PL.ANDR (REL_GENERIC)
baut-jodz-waeth-aik viloud-ef liem-iedzh-ef-a vitaarr-il-z-ae-raik g-O-n
everything-beginning-ADESSIVE-PL.ANDR sky-ACC.SG.M world-and-ACC-SG.F god-ERG.SG.M-3-GEN-PL.ANDR PST-make-SIMPLE
It is said by [the] Christians (that) at [the] beginning of absolutely everything, [the] sky and world were made by their god.
I couldn't resist being a little secular. For a direct translation, use only the second line of the gloss and remove the genitive noun. I suppose a Christian might refer to their god as 'vitaarr-dzvaeraik' (the god of all of us/everyone's god) in Zidhgebzhail.
Note that 'beginning of everything' is both plural and androgyne in order to give the strongest possible sense of the beginning of all things, and would possibly be avoided in a formal translation of a religious text.
Zidhgebzhail
maenoth krraistkebozaungaik (hyt) bautjodzwaethaik viloudef liemiedzhefa vitaarril-zaeraik gOn.
maenoth krraist-keb-oz-aung-aik (hyt)
HEARSAY_REPORTATIVE_EVIDENTIAL Christ-folk-man-INSTR-PL.ANDR (REL_GENERIC)
baut-jodz-waeth-aik viloud-ef liem-iedzh-ef-a vitaarr-il-z-ae-raik g-O-n
everything-beginning-ADESSIVE-PL.ANDR sky-ACC.SG.M world-and-ACC-SG.F god-ERG.SG.M-3-GEN-PL.ANDR PST-make-SIMPLE
It is said by [the] Christians (that) at [the] beginning of absolutely everything, [the] sky and world were made by their god.
I couldn't resist being a little secular. For a direct translation, use only the second line of the gloss and remove the genitive noun. I suppose a Christian might refer to their god as 'vitaarr-dzvaeraik' (the god of all of us/everyone's god) in Zidhgebzhail.
Note that 'beginning of everything' is both plural and androgyne in order to give the strongest possible sense of the beginning of all things, and would possibly be avoided in a formal translation of a religious text.
Re: In the beginning
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Rüügäk kapaišejaq polatok kiuradat je ajat.
/ry:gæk kapaiʃɛjax polatok kiuradat jɛ ajat/ (the stress is on the first vowel)
INE.start deity PST.make.3SG ACC.sky and ACC.ground.
I don't really know how to "translate" like you guys do, so I just did the best I could. And yea, I have a phonetic language, because I'd feel like an hypocrite if it wouldn't be phonetic.
Rüügäk kapaišejaq polatok kiuradat je ajat.
/ry:gæk kapaiʃɛjax polatok kiuradat jɛ ajat/ (the stress is on the first vowel)
INE.start deity PST.make.3SG ACC.sky and ACC.ground.
I don't really know how to "translate" like you guys do, so I just did the best I could. And yea, I have a phonetic language, because I'd feel like an hypocrite if it wouldn't be phonetic.
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Re: In the beginning
Iron wrote:Yes. Thank you.
Re: In the beginning
Vanga:Xing wrote: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Koinulttas gyndæh zúmun ómalnufahhauni lóqatálunzódu.
ko‹›jn-ʷ‹l›tt-ˤh-z gy‹›nd-ˤh zú‹›m-ʷn óma‹l›n-ʷf-ˤh-ˤ‹ʷn›i lʷ´ˤ-q-atá‹›l-ʷn-z-ʷ´ˤdʷ
As time started, the ruler created the sky and the world.
to_pass_in_time-INIT<PAST>-3P-INAN to_lead-3P be_blue/grey-4P to_craft<PAST>-TRA-3P-OBJ<4P> TOP-all-to_contain/make_up-4P-INAN-CONJ
[ˈkɔɪ̯nʊl̥tːɑs̻ ˈxʏnːæħ ˈs̻ʊːmʊ̃n ˈɔːmɑŋʊ̤̯ɸɑħːˌɑʊ̯̃nɯ̯ ˈɾɔːˈɢɑdɑːɾʊ̃nz̻ˌɔːðʊ̯]
Re: In the beginning
Géarthnuns
Che zdíathev Avíaths lü chau neskersaut zhö chau zhangarsaut tíornath.
[tʃɛ 'zdjaθsɛv a'vjaθs 'ly tʃɔ nɛs'kɛɾsɔt ʒø tʃɔ ʒa'ŋaɾsɔt 'tjoɾnaθ]
DEF beginning-LOC God-NOM AUX/TRANS DEF heaven-ACC and DEF earth-ACC create
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Che zdíathev Avíaths lü chau neskersaut zhö chau zhangarsaut tíornath.
[tʃɛ 'zdjaθsɛv a'vjaθs 'ly tʃɔ nɛs'kɛɾsɔt ʒø tʃɔ ʒa'ŋaɾsɔt 'tjoɾnaθ]
DEF beginning-LOC God-NOM AUX/TRANS DEF heaven-ACC and DEF earth-ACC create
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
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Re: In the beginning
Is it bad that my first thought after seeing the title (I actually didn't remember having written here before ), my first thought was this?
IN THE BEGINNING THERE WAS SILENCE AND DARKNESS
ALL ACROSS THE EARTH
THEN CAME THE WIND
AND A HOLE IN THE SKY
THUNDER AND LIGHTNING KEPT CRASHING DOWN
HIT THE EARTH AND SPLIT THE GROUND
FIRE BURNING HIGH IN THE SKY
Manowar</3 ;__;
IN THE BEGINNING THERE WAS SILENCE AND DARKNESS
ALL ACROSS THE EARTH
THEN CAME THE WIND
AND A HOLE IN THE SKY
THUNDER AND LIGHTNING KEPT CRASHING DOWN
HIT THE EARTH AND SPLIT THE GROUND
FIRE BURNING HIGH IN THE SKY
Manowar</3 ;__;