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:eng: We were talking about who loves whom.

Kankonian:
Wir nophatwelen safga houmil id houmil betzithas.
1pl discuss-PST in_the_process_of about-who done_to about-whom love-PRS
We were talking about who loves whom.

"To love" should be assumed to be in its sense of eros.
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:tan:
Tunazungumza hivi nani anampenda nani / Tunazungumza hivi nani hupenda nani
/tu.nɑ.zu.ᵑgu.'m̩.zɑ 'hi.vi 'nɑ.ni ɑ.nɑ.m̩.'pɛ.ⁿdɑ 'nɑ.ni/ / /tu.nɑ.zu.ᵑgu.'m̩.zɑ 'hi.vi 'nɑ.ni hu.'pɛ.ⁿdɑ 'nɑ.ni/

tu-na-zungumza hivi nani a-na-m-penda nani / tu-na-zungumza hivi nani hu-penda nani
1pp-PRES-discuss thus who 3ps-PRES-3ps-love who / 1pp-PRES-discuss thus who AOR-love who


Swahili, like English, tends to not really differentiate the definitions of love that often.
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:con: Miwonša

Žwiwanjaman prastai čwo kwanjan ya čwo kwanjaran.
talk<PAST>-1PL-IPFV about-that-ACC who-NOM love-IPFV and who love-PASS-IPFV
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wušrikʷi:tx̱̓ahaƛitan č̓a sa č̓a sa asax̱an
wush-rikw-iit-xh'a-ha-di-tan ch'a sa a-sa-xhan
RECIP-idea-ALT-mouth.INST-1p.A-CL[+V, +D, +I, z]-carry;PFV who Q who Q 3obv.P-CL[-V, -D, -I, s]-love;NPFV
We were discussing who loves whom.

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korone ikorori atiwahako ana
koro-ne i-koro-ri ati-waha-ko ana
love-NOM.NMLZ ACC.NMLZ-love-ACT.NMLZ say-find-REC.WIT 1xp
We were discussing who loves whom.

(Assumes exclusive we. Inclusive we would be: korone ikorori katiwahako)
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Khemehekis wrote: 3pl
We
Thakowsaizmu wrote:tu-
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Aszev wrote:
Khemehekis wrote: 3pl
We
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Trízh lé, gü cheths lav chethset höisöl sho, möl.
1DUAL-NOM AUX.PAST, CONJ who-NOM AUX.PRES.IMPERS who-ACC love-DISC PTCL, talk
We were talking about who loves whom.
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:deu: German
Wir haben darüber geredet, wer wen liebt.
wir hab-en darüber ge-red-et wer we-n lieb-t
1.PL.NOM have-1.PL.PRS about_that PTCP-talk-PTCP who.NOM who-ACC love-3.SG.PRS
We were talking about who loves whom.
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Aszev wrote:
Khemehekis wrote: 3pl
We
Thakowsaizmu wrote:tu-
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There are two options for a subject: "nous", which always means 1PL, or "on", which can mean 1PL in informal situations. The interrogative pronoun "qui" doesn't decline for case.

:fra: French
Nous parlions / On parlait de qui aime qui.
[nu paʁljɔ̃ ɔ̃ paʁlɛ d ki ɛm ki]
1PL talk-IPF-1PL / 1PL talk-IPF[3SG] of who love[3SG] who

We were talking about who loves whom.
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We were talking about who loves whom.

Vtain:

Koxu jempe jempo kïhama hundah.
kox-u jem-SGe jem-SGo k<ï>ham-a hund-ah
we.incl-ERG who/someone-ACC love(sexually)-DAT <DITR>discuss-IPF love-INF
lit. 'We we discussing somebody loving somebody.'

It's about the context if we know who loves whom or are wondering it.
The only way to express that in Vtain is to have a ditransitive verb 'X discusses Y doing verb to Z'.

In Vtain, auxiliaries tent to be normal verbs as well. The cause
Koxu jempe jempo kïhama.
kox-u jem-SGe jem-SGo k<ï>ham-a
we.incl-ERG who/someone-ACC love(sexually)-DAT <DITR>discuss-IPF
'We were discussing someone's relationship to somebody.'
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:con: Obulamga

Zeimjoeldialdido alamjoina enalabun.
[ˈzɛimʒɔɛldialˌdidɔ ˈalamʒɔˌina ˈɛnaˌlabun]
zeim-jo-eldi-aldi-do a-lam-jo-ina enalabun
love-IND.POL-who.NOM-who.ACC-TOP PROG-say-IND.POL-1PAU.NOM PST
We were talking about who loves whom.
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:con: Nuz wir bιn cбri von әn ijƕob łuvi жumun.
We were talking of one who loves someone/somebody.
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:con:Sunbyaku:

iri zō iri ma naida deyo byaran.
who=AGT who=PAT love.EROS-GER=about talk-1P
Nūdenku waga honji ma naku honyasi ne ika-ika ichamase!
female-appearance=despite boy-voice=PAT hold boy-youth=TOP very be.cute-3PL
Honyasi zō honyasi ma naidasu.
boy-youth=AGT boy-youth=PAT love.romantically-3S
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:con: Utseech

Wir havech gaetheen darüva wa lieben wech.
[wir ˈhɑvɛç gɑə̯tʰheːn daˈryvɑ wɑ ˈlɪ̯ɛbən wɛç]
1PL have.1PL talk.PP about_that who.NOM love.3SG who.ACC

:con: Yélian

I assumed that "We" is exclusive.

Yibidayiest can ya iavet yat.
[ʃibiˈdaʃʲɛst kan ʃa ʲavɛt ʃɐt]
PST-discuss-1PLEX for who love.3SG who.OBL

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Rer sibukertyal, fang fanung jüvdil.
[rɛɾ ʃibʊkʰɛrˈtʲal βaŋ βaˈnuŋ jʏfˈdɪl]
1PLEX PST-talk.1PLEX>INTR, who who.ACC love.3SG>3SG

:con: Anto

Tja redere-ta de shas de shas ti fan-ton wede.
[ca ˈɹɛtɛˌɹɛtʰa tɛ ʃas tɛ ʃas tʰi ˈfantʰɔn wɛtɛ]
1PL talk-PST-1PL PART1 who PART1 who PART2 love-3.ANIM about

PART1: Particle that brackets nominal phrases. Mostly, it is finished by a preposition. The inner "de" is finished by the PART2 "ti", the outer "de" is finished by "wede".
PART2: Marks the direct object.

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Khek padannzhap sez puls shamadzhoz shamadzh.
[kʰɛk paˈdanːʐap sɛz puls ˈʂama͡dʐɔz ˈʂama͡dʐ]
PERF talk-1PL.ABS about love someone.ERG someone.ABS

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वौ व्वेण ध्रे ह्रीतमे पूये नामि कयु क्यण.
Wey ven dhre hrītame pūye nāmi kayu kayan.

[waʊ̯ vɛn θrɛ ˈx̠riːtam ˈpuːjɛ ˈnaːmi ˈkaju ˈkajan]
1PL come.1PL from talk about love.3SG who.NOM who.ACC
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私-autre oué, on ga 話chitéta de qui ga 愛më qui.
Ouétachi-autre oué, on ga hanachitéta de qui ga aïmë qui.
[weˈtæʃi-oʊ̯t we, õʊ̃ gɔ aˈnaʃi̥tetɔd ki gɔ ˈæɪ̯mœ̈ ki]
1PL TOP, 1PL SUBJ talk-PROGPAST of who SUBJ love who
We were talking about who loves whom.
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:esp: Spanish

Hablábamos de quién ama a quién.
[aˈβ̞laβ̞amo̞s ð̞e̞ kje̞n ˈama a kje̞n]
habl-ábamos de quién-Ø am-a a quién-Ø
talk-1PL.IMPERF.IND of who-SG love-3SG.PRS.IND ACC who-SG
We were talking about who loves whom.
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Nos parlavons de chig ama chin.
[nʊ pa.laˈvõ də ˈkeː ˈaː.ma ˈkẽː]
1PL talk-IPF-1PL of who.NOM love-3SG who.OBL

We were talking about who loves whom.
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:roc: :prc:
我們曾經在討論誰愛誰?
[wo˨˩mən t͡sʰəŋ˧˥tɕ͡iŋ˥ t͡sai˥˩ tʰau̯˨˩lu̯ən˥˩ ʂei̯˧˥ ai̯˥˩ ʂei̯˧˥]
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1p PST STAT discuss who love who

We were discussing who loves who.
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:con: :png: Wena:

Wena i (nye) nge u byo i yu ma i le mya.
Wena i (nye) nge u byo i yu ma i le mya.
1p.EXC COP (current.E) speak.AG ADV topic COP C what COP love.AG GEN.what
We're talking with the topic being who loves who.

Ma / mya can refer to either people or things. Further specificity is not needed here because ... how often do we talk about what loves what?
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