Don't talk to me or my son ever again!

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:con: Īsmay

Ēťo sēśī ūnmak punuslu mak zūprāktam pat!
[ˈeːʈo ˈseːʃiː ˈuːmmak ˈpunusl̥u ˌmak ˈzuːpɹaːktam ˈpat]

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not_be\CONT	say\COOP\FCONT	COM=1sf	or=son=POSS	1sf	beyond=time=none=more	EMPH.NEG
ēťo		sēyusī		ūna=mak	pun=usla=ʕ	mak	zū=prā=k(a)ta=m		pat
Don't talk to me or my son ever again!
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gestaltist wrote:
14 Jan 2019 23:03

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not_be\CONT say\COOP\FCONT COM=1sf or=son=POSS 1sf beyond=time=none EMPH.NEG
ēťo sēyusī ūna=mak pun=usla=ʕ mak zū=prā=k(a)ta pat
Not sure why you put that in code markers if it wasn't to line up your gloss.

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ēťo         sēyusī         ūna=mak pun=usla=ʕ  mak zū=prā=k(a)ta    pat
not_be\CONT say\COOP\FCONT COM=1sf or=son=POSS 1sf beyond=time=none EMPH.NEG
Doesn't that look better and easier to read? :-)
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific, AG = agent, E = entity (person, animal, thing)
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Imralu wrote:
15 Jan 2019 00:31
Doesn't that look better and easier to read? :-)
You're right. Honestly, I wasn't expecting anyone to read my gloss. [xD] Anyway, thanks to you, I noticed I forgot a clitic so I fixed the gloss now.

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:con: Asta

xwe yurastastatrəsami muwə muwatan!
xwe yur-ROOT-astə<atr>-sami mə-wə mə-watan
PROH 2>1-ITER-speak<APPL>-again 1s-SING 1s-son
Don't talk to me or my son ever again!

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:con: Nłokjenkaitää.
Engii vinzken säike niþ Ron'nihjäþ!
Negative-FUT;IMP,2ndP;SG again-MOD;ADV say-1stINF 1stP,SG;ACC son-1stP,SG;POSS-or;CLT-ACC.
Don't ever again talk to me or to my son!

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:bra: Colloquial Brazilian Portuguese
Não fale pra mim ou meu filho mais!
NEG speak-SBJV.3SG to 1SG.ACC or 1MSG.GEN son more

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In Haasvian:

Jaar ig hvo si havhen'hvo nokh darhyo mirru!
[no to me or son-me-POSS. ever again talk!]
Don't talk to me or my son ever again!
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Georgian
ნურც მე ნურც ჩემს შვილს ნუღარასოდეს დაგველაპარაკები!

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nur-c    me        nur-c    čem-s  švil-s    nu<ġa>ra-sodes        da-gv-e-laṗaraḳ-eb-i
PROH-TOO 1SG(.DAT) PROH-TOO my-DAT child-DAT PROH<ever_again>-when PVB-1PL.B-APPL-speak-THM-NPST.1/2
  • I'm not really sure how agreement works with arguments in a "neither... nor" disjunction. Googling around suggests the features are combined (1SG + 3SG = 1PL), which I've done here. An alternative would be to use stripping (a kind of ellipsis) to avoid the question of agreement resolution altogether: ნურც მე დამელაპარაკები, ნურც ჩემს შვილს nurc me damelaṗaraḳebi, nurc čems švils "neither me(.DAT) speak:FUT.1SG>2SG, neither my child.DAT".
  • Georgian has this remarkable way of forming negative indefinites. The language has three flavors of negation, and you can build combine them pretty freely with any indefinite pronoun base: e.g., არასოდეს arasodes "never" (normal negative), ვერასოდეს verasodes "can't ever" (modal negative), ნურასოდეს nurasodes "don't ever!" (prohibitive). Then, there's this little infix -ღა- -ġa- that adds an "any more / again" meaning: აღარასოდეს aġarasodes "never again", ვეღარასოდეს veġarasodes "can't any more", ნუღარასოდეს nuġarasodes "don't any more!".
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ʊ́nʊ̀n tʌ̀sk wɪ̀mɪ̀m wɪ̰p lɑ́psɑ́!

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ʊ̀-nʊ̀n     tʌ̀-t-k          w=ɪ̀m-p      w=ɪ̰-p        lɑ́-ps=ɑ́!
RED-never AUX.2SG-2SG-LOC or=SELF-1SG or=child-1SG speak-NEG=PFX
  • Again dealing with the disjunction is challenging... Here I went with the default LOC marker on the auxiliary to index the disjoined indirect object. I haven't thought about how stripping would work in this language, maybe I'll play around with that.

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for my conlang Ðaujai:
Je bneiye keni aifenne jade sikke se za ziya taiü.
[d͡ʒɛ 'bne.jɛ 'kɛ.ni ai.'fɛn.nɛ 'd͡ʒɑ.dɛ 'sik.kɛ zɑ 'zi.jɑ 'tɑi.u]

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je    bneiye    keni       aifenne  jade       sikke    se  za                  ziya taiü.    
not  talk-IMP  once_again  never    neither  to.1.MASC. to  ART.ACC.MASC.ANIM.  son  my.
Ðaujai's conjunctions tend to go before the first of the items that they are linking. Jade is a contraction of je, the negation adverb, and ade, akin to English's "not". Because ade is such a conjunction, jade precedes the first listed item, sikke. For instance, the expression (excuse my romanization), "with scythe and sword", or "with all they've got.":

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yei      an        ȿîmata     an       surr       
[je      ɑn        ʃɪ.mɑ.tɑ   ɑn       sur]
CONJ   PREP.INSTR  scythe     PREP     sword
But yei is archaic. The modern conjuction is kvi: "Mark and Keuyeȿí are going to London."

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Tirr   kvi    Marku  Keuyeȿí  drei      Londra.   
Go-PL. CONJ. Mark    Keuyeȿí  PREP.ALL  London
.

We see negative concordance, of course. Conjugating prepositions too: sikke, but unconjugated se before the modified noun.
Well that was fun. Thanks.
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:con: Unnamed

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Netom    lhaev                                                                   mon         kio    mor        pqaq!

NEG.INT communicate.ATEL.VOL.TRANS.FFUT.IMPERF.IMP 1.SG.DAT   or   1.SG.GEN  son.SG.DAT

/nedɤm lhaeɬ                                                                    mun         kjɯ  mur         pçaç/
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I should do these more often. Helps me create new words [:D] Lots of "z" words in this sentence:

:con: Lihmelinyan

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Gē         zábres              zébi   ek  zāi    tantréyei  immárū!

PROH.PART. speak-INJUNC.2ND.S. me-DAT nor my-DAT son-DAT    again-ADV

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ya ano ke tahi nayo ua na kalak
/ja aːno kɛ taːɦi naːjo wa na kaːlak/
VOC again O son 1s.GEN or 1s speak-NEG
Don't talk to me or my son ever again.

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Yinše
Šekæ wano ča makno wak’uu ček k’ee yinnee!
/ʃekæ wano ʧa makno wak’uː ʧek k’eː jinːeː/
2-ERG 1-ACC or son-ACC 1-POS NEG again speak-IMP

Weddisch
Ne spek naucht widder mid mie ot myn sun!
/nɛː spɛk naʊχt vɪdər mɪd miː ɔt mɛɪn zʊn/
NEG speak not again with 1.OBJ or 1.POS son
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West Saxon
Ne spek to me oþþe min zune na'ft!
/nə spɛk mɛ ɔθ mɪn zɔwn næft/
NEG speak.SUBJ to 1.OBJ or 1.POS son never-again

n'eft is a contraction of "nafre" and "eft"

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:con: Gondolan

Mi ri s’oblium, pol s’oblium ioshun.
/mĩ ɹ̠i so.ˈbli.u̜m po̜ʟ so.ˈbli.u̜m ˈio̜s.hu̜n/
1ST.ERG.SING COMM NEG-talk-PRES.PASS, son.PROX.ABS.SING NEG-talk-PRES.PASS PROADV.ASERT.EXIST.TIME-DUB
Don’t talk to me or my son ever again.
  • :con: Gondolan, the pride of the Gondolan empire.
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  • :con: Mothaukan, crazy tonal language.

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Prejhê pu nonke ne mé ne mu fî/guarçon !
[ˈpʁəˈʒɛː ˈpy ˈnɔ̃ŋ.kə nəˈme ne.myˈfiː/ʒɑˈsɔ̃ŋ]
talk-IMP.2.FORM no_more never neither to 1S.DISJ neither 1S-POSS.M.N.OBL son/son-OBL

Don't talk to me or my son ever again!

An object pronoun normally attaches directly to the imperative form of a verb, so "Talk to me" would be Prejhemme. But since it's being coordinated with "son", the stand-alone form is necessary. The indirect object of a verb often is accompanied by the preposition a, but it can appear with no preposition if it is definite, noble-gender and non-quantified. In this sentence, both the first-person pronoun and /guarçon meet those requirements, so they have no prepositions.

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Post by KaiTheHomoSapien »

Good sentence. I had to think about this one for a bit. But here's how you'd Lihmelinyanize it:

:con: Lihmelinyan

Gē zábres zi uk tantréyei-zei tára nu!

PROHIB.PART. speak-2.s.INJUNC me-DAT or son-DAT-my-DAT again EMPH.PART.

zábrami "I speak" takes a dative object. "Gē" is a special particle meaning "do not" that is always paired with the injunctive mood (hence the mood's name). "-zei" is a clitic possessive adjective. It declines irregularly. "ever again" I've translated as "again" with the emphatic particle "nu". "nu" is difficult to translate but sometimes "certainly" or "ever" is the sense of it.

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There are two translations here for the same language: the first one is more archaic and dramatic, the second one is more casual, and I couldn't decide which of these variants is closer to the original phrase.


:con: itota itiko

moni vo taja itiki pa kija apa taja ila ilaka to tajo isa.
['ɱonʲi 'vo 'tajä 'itʲikʲi 'pa 'kʲijä 'apä 'tajä 'iɫä 'iɫakä 'to ta'jo 'isa]

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mon-i             vo  taj-a itik-i -pa  kij-a  apa taja ila ilak-a -to     taj-o  isa
want-VM[PST;IPRF] big I-NM  talk-VM-NEG you-NM FUT I-NM and create-NM-PASS I-ADJM NOUNIF
I strongly didn't want you talking to me and my creation in the future.


motaja vo itiki pa kija apa taja ila ilakita tajo isa.
['ɱotäja 'vo 'itʲikʲi 'pa 'kʲijä 'apä 'tajä 'iɫä 'iɫakʲiˌta ta'jo 'isa]

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motaja vo  itik-i -pa  kij-a  apa taj-a ila ilaki-ta       taj-o  isa
IMP    big talk-VM-NEG you-NM FUT I-NM  and create-PASS;NM I-ADJM NOUNIF
(Strongly) don't talk to me and my creation in the future.

NM, VM and ADJM = noun marker, verb marker and adjective/adverb marker.
NOUNIF = nounification particle, it makes the previous sentence a noun (for example: I sleep -> the act of me sleeping)
The language is primarily head-initial, and the word order is VSO. There is no present tense, and past imperfect is commonly used instead.
I'm not very good at glossing, so if something is wrong and you want to correct it, please do.
I now realize I could actually translate "ever again" more closely, but I won't go through this phonetic transcription nightmare ever again.
216 always explains everything. ilaki onito itota ti ji ji ti akina itota ma. 216 всегда всё объясняет.

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