I have a moon, but I ignored it

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I have a moon, but I ignored it

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From a post by user evmdbm on the ZBB.

In CT:

Uarák éĝris iár ĝús, ör atkïr irü hé ĝús…
have satellite any.DIST 1SG but.S ignore CONT.PERF 3SG 1SG
/ùàɹák éŋɹìs ìáɹ ŋús | ø̀ɹ àtkɯ̀ɹ ìɹỳ hé ŋús/
[ùàɹák éŋɹìs ìáɹ ŋús | ø̀ɹ àtskɯ̀ɹ ìɹỳ hé ŋús]
'I had a moon, but I ignored it…'
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Re: I have a moon, but I ignored it

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:deu: German

Ich habe einen Mond, aber ich habe ihn ignoriert.
[ʔɪç ˈhaːbə ˈʔaɪ̯nən moːnt, ˈʔabɐ ʔɪç ˈhaːbə ʔiːn ʔɪgnoˈʁiɐ̯t]
1SG.NOM have.1SG INDEF.MASC.ACC moon.ACC, but 1SG.NOM AUX.PERF.1SG 3SG.MASC.ACC ignore.PP
I have a moon, but I ignored it.

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[baɪ̯ ˈʃeːlɪ̯ʉnɨ ˈmiː.ɐ kʉt ɾɐt ɕɨɸɐˈdombʉt]
have.1SG moon-ENUM one but 1SG.OBL PST-ignore-INV.3SG.ANIM
I have a moon, but I ignored it.
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Re: I have a moon, but I ignored it

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Mǔyǔguódù:
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:con: griuskant (without script here)

zida arwung ut odyuas.
/'zida 'arwuŋ ut 'ɔdjuas/
got-V lunar but ignore-V-PL
'I had a moon, but I ignored it…'
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Dleesoop - a first attempt with basically no verb morphology atm.

Syynip i'kaa, koohydidsa.
syynip i'-kaa koohydi-dsa
moon sg1-be ignore-but

A syntax structure borrowed from Chinese. "Me, moon exist"

koohyd 'mean a back'
koohydi 'bring something behind you'
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Jh' y un' luna, mes jho l' y inyorava.
[ʒ(j)yˈŋly.ŋa | mɛʒ.ʒo.ʎˑi.ɲˑəˈʁa.va]
1S.NOM have.1S INDEF.F.C moon | but 1S.NOM 3S.ACC have.1S ignore-PSTP-F.C

I have a moon, but I ignored it.

A feature that I find fun in this sentence is the reduction of the first person of avé "have". It becomes just y [j] before a vowel, and since [j] is often dropped after palatal-ish consonants like the [ʒ] of the first-person pronoun, first-person possessive sentences commonly sound like they have no verb, e.g. "I a moon".

I'm also experimenting with using <s> to represent the modern reflexes of historical coda [​s], which means the letter would indicate gemination or spirantization of the following consonant, or a [h], depending on dialect. An example above is mes jho [mɛʒ.ʒo]. But then there are borrowed words with current sC clusters, so I want to figure out how little disambiguating marking I can get away with. Take fes̅ta "party" with a macron over the <s>, which is [ˈfɛt.ta], but festivalo "festival" with no macron is [fe.stiˈvɑːl].
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:con: Cassiterian
Z'avi un lun, mis za la inuravi/inurivi.
[ˈʑǽːvʏnʉ̞n mʏʑːɪnʊˈrǽː/íːvʏ]
1SG.NOM have-1SG.PRS INDEF.SG moon, but 1SG.NOM 3SG.ACC ignore-PERF.1SG
inuravi/inurivi - I'm not sure what past tense to use here. The first is derived from (correct me if I mistake the Latin forms) IGNORĀTUM HABEO and the second from IGNORĀVI.
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Dormouse559 wrote: 03 Feb 2022 07:38 I'm also experimenting with using <s> to represent the modern reflexes of historical coda [​s], which means the letter would indicate gemination or spirantization of the following consonant, or a [h], depending on dialect. An example above is mes jho [mɛʒ.ʒo]. But then there are borrowed words with current sC clusters, so I want to figure out how little disambiguating marking I can get away with. Take fes̅ta "party" with a macron over the <s>, which is [ˈfɛt.ta], but festivalo "festival" with no macron is [fe.stiˈvɑːl].
You can absolutely justify some <s>'s being silent and others not with no orthographic disambiguation.
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Miwonša
Mayo njara yakwan, nak žai kjayasnimiwan.
Literally: "To-me moon was, but not pay.attention-did-I-it"
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Mayo njar-a ya-kw-an, nak žai kja<ya>sn-im-iw-an.
(1SG.DAT moon=NOM.SG PAST-COP-IPFV, but not pay.attention<PAST>-1SG.SUBJ-3SG-OBJ-IPFV
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Re: I have a moon, but I ignored it

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Vissard:

J' ai eune maune, mas jo l' ignori.
/ˈʒ ɛ øn ˈmon mɛː ʒ l iɲuˈri/
1SG.NOM have.1SG INDEF.F.O.S, but 1SG.NOM 3SG.F.OBL ignore-1SG.PERF
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maune is a borrowing from Old English mōna; Old English also gave Vissard a number of other astronomical terms like tunge "star, planet" < tungol, rendé "morning star, Venus" < Ēarendel, esprunjant "eclipse" < āsprungennes
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:con: Rireinutire

usamu ukiva sika sikimu ñorekiseva···
/ˈusɑmu ˈukivɑ ˈsikɑ ˈsikimu ˈŋoɹekisevɑ/
usa-mu u-ki-va sika siki-mu ñore-ki-se-va ||
moon-ACC have-PST-SENS but this-ACC take.note-PST-NEG-SENS ||

'I had a moon, but I ignored it…'

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