It made him become an investment advisor

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It made him become an investment advisor

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One of my all-time favorite linguistic example sentences I've come up with.

CT:
laghá hadál kandá tr ïḫ ság hé hé
outcome.CAUS A capable CAUS become.VBLZ wealthy 3SG 3SG
'it made him become an investment advisor'
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Re: It made him become an investment advisor

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:con: Vissard:

Chi le a fait se far konsilor en investisement.
[ˌʃi l ͜ a ˈfɛ ͜ jə ˈfa kɔ̃niˈlor ͜ ɛ̃n ͜ ĩnvətijəˈmɛ̃n]
DEMONSTR 3SG.OBJ=have.3SG make.PAST.PPL REFL make-INFIN advisor.OBL in investment.OBL
It made him become an investment advisor.

Nothing much to note here other that's not typical to Romance languages. konsilor en investisement is a calque of the French conseiller en investissement. Colloquially you'd drop the a and say chi le fait se far konsilor.


:con: Ai:

Dà e o ehúwyi "penasihat investasi" baw-wa.
[ˈɗa˥˨ ɛ˨ ɔ˨ ɛ˨ˈhyw˥d͡ʒi˩ | ɓɛ˨da˨ˈsi˥ha˨ i˨bɛ˨ˈta˥si˨ ˈɓaw˨wa˩]
dà e o e-húw-yi "penasihat investasi" baw-wa
DEM.DIST ERG DEM.PROX CAUS-move-PFV {penasihat investasi} sit-IMPFV
It made him become an investment advisor.

This one was a lot trickier to translate. The concept of an investment advisor would make no sense in an Ai context; they'd most likely just express it in Indonesian (given here with a thick Ai accent). The concept of causing someone to become sth is expressed in two clauses, literally "It made him change (job), he is (now) an investment advisor". Interestingly, both "change" and "be" are expressed through metaphors, "move (location)" and "sit" respectively.
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Re: It made him become an investment advisor

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:con: griushkoent (without script here)

tisa raes daega yleyneyouve.
/'tisa 'res 'dega 'Yləjnəjɔuvə/
cause-V 3SG become-V invest-manage-N
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Re: It made him become an investment advisor

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To me, this is crying out to be the second clause of a so-that construction: something like "it was so appalling that it made him become an investment advisor". That might be an interesting construction to translate.

[we could even go further and include a comparative: "it was so much less delightful than he had anticipated that it made him become an investment advisor". That could be tricky.]
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Re: It made him become an investment advisor

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:con: Yélian

Vat tem nabtivelat bats candreyanor o'biylero.
[vat tem nɐbɨˈʋeːlɐ‿bat͡s kɐndɾəˈʃaːnɔ̈d̟ ɔ̈ba̯iːˈleːɾo]
DEM 3SG.MASC.OBL make-work-JUS.3SG as advisor DEF.GEN=funds
This made him work as an investment advisor.

New word for this challenge:

candreyanor o'biylero - investment advisor
Etymology: literally "advisor of funds"
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Re: It made him become an investment advisor

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:con: Rireinutire

saki hamu hoyotarosaneñupiñipa tututekepa sokive:
/ˈsɑki ˈhɑmu ˈhojotɑɹoˌsɑneŋupiŋipɑ ˈtututekepɑ ˈsokive/
saki ha-mu hoyotaro-saneñupiñi-pa tutute-ke-pa so-ki-ve ||
that.NOM 3S.R-ACC investment-advisor-ESS become-PPART-ESS get.to-PST-HSY ||

It made her become an investment advisor.

The word for 'investment advisor', hoyotarosaneñupiñi, is a tatpurusha composed of these two parts:
investment ni. hoyo-ta-ro place-CAUS-NMZ
advisor nr. sane-ñu-piñi advice-FREQ-AGZ

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