Frankly, I wasn't even sure whether you were deriving [tsabo] from "Txabao" or "Dza'spar"! And maybe the cognate of Premreu could mean "breast" in a few of the languages.Nachtuil wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019 05:19 I meant [tsabo] from "Dza'spar" due to phonotactics but once I get the diachronic sound changes settled I'll know for sure. I love the idea of the Goddess "Premreu" and maybe will need to have a cognate derived from that having to do something with motherhood or wives or something. I just realised that [tʃabaw] / [tʃabao] would also be realised as [tsabo] in the modern language hahaha. That or [tʃijabo]
Maybe. Perhaps it could go Txabao -> Proto-Riverbranch -> River People Language, similar to Proto-Afro-Asiatic -> Proto-Hamitic -> Egyptian.A river civilization would be cool. Maybe the oasis city was on the periphery of the main river or the river source was the oasis/spring itself?Khemehekis wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019 04:30 How about a river civilization in the desert, similar to the Egyptians! They could even speak a language descended from Txabao! From Txabao who settled there?
::mind totally blown::It wasn't my intention but I'm not against the two languages belonging to the same language family though I'll need to think about it. It is an appealing prospect in a number of ways. One of the things I've been thinking about is that the Kojikeng at an earlier stage had aspirated stops. Perhaps the aspirated stop series could have come from ejectives which came from your pharyngealized stops or those stops and the aspirated stops of my language came from a language with ejectives. Of course, this is entirely not necessary too. Hahaha. If I derive from the inventory you've presented I could see the pharyngealized series having become ejectives through some process of fortition.
Conveniently some of the grammatical features are shared between our languages in terms of word order. I had suggested earlier Kojikeng was more inflected but experienced a heavy reduction and simplification of its inflection (and its phonotactics).
Now, THAT would be something! We could even work on wordlists and sound changes together to "sync" our languages if they turn out to be compatible and we really want to make them related. I see you can already make Janko happy, so the numbers in the languages in such a phylum may already be chosen. As such, I'll hold out on creating Txabao numbers until we finalize our decision on whether to make Txabao and Kojikeng relatives.
So far, the biggest drawback I can think of is that we're going to want a lot of language phyla on Damta. On Earth, for instance, we have Indo-European, and Afro-Asiatic, and Uralic, and Altaic, and Sino-Tibetan, and Dravidian, and Caucasian, and Austro-Asiatic, and Austronesian, and Tai-Kadai, and Hmong-Mien, and Nilo-Saharan, and Niger-Congo, and Khoisan, and Na-Dené, and Amerindian, and Uto-Aztecan, and Mayan, and Quechuan, and Aymaran, and Tupian, and Eskimo-Aleut . . . even isolates like Basque and Zuñi. And the phyla I've mentioned still don't cover all the non-isolate languages! If Kojikeng and Txabao are related, we'll have one fewer phylum started already. But maybe we can get more people joining, or people who are already participating will add additional proto-languages and their associated phyla.
Has anyone tried to reach MirandaBrawner lately? She could draw participants in from another forum.
Also: I think the Gwapikiru language created as a Beispiel language in this post would make for a great present-day rain-forest language. What kind of proto-language phonology could ultimately evolve into something like that?
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