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If I'm correct in assuming it's a verb phrase, is cors the direct object?
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shimobaatar wrote: 14 Oct 2019 14:58 If I'm correct in assuming it's a verb phrase, is cors the direct object?
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Jackk wrote: 14 Oct 2019 15:00
shimobaatar wrote: 14 Oct 2019 14:58 If I'm correct in assuming it's a verb phrase, is cors the direct object?
[tick] You are, and it is. [:D]
I don't have much of a basis for this other than the way the word looks, but does it mean "heart", or is it somehow related to Latin cor?
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shimobaatar wrote: 15 Oct 2019 12:25
Jackk wrote: 14 Oct 2019 15:00
shimobaatar wrote: 14 Oct 2019 14:58 If I'm correct in assuming it's a verb phrase, is cors the direct object?
[tick] You are, and it is. [:D]
I don't have much of a basis for this other than the way the word looks, but does it mean "heart", or is it somehow related to Latin cor?
[cross] It is not related to Latin cor, no.
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Is it related to Latin corpus? And is pareïr related to Latin parere/parescere?
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Zekoslav wrote: 15 Oct 2019 13:05 Is it related to Latin corpus? And is pareïr related to Latin parere/parescere?
[cross] [cross] No to both, I'm afraid.
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Is cors maybe from cursus and par- from per- ?
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Zekoslav wrote: 15 Oct 2019 13:28 Is cors maybe from cursus and par- from per- ?
[tick] [cross] cursus yes, per- no.
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Is par- from any prefix in Latin or is it part of the root?

If it's part of the root is it maybe related to or even borrowed from French parader?
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Zekoslav wrote: 15 Oct 2019 13:33 Is par- from any prefix in Latin or is it part of the root?

If it's part of the root is it maybe related to or even borrowed from French parader?
[cross] [tick] [cross] It is part of the root, but not related at all to French parader.
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Jackk wrote: 15 Oct 2019 13:48
Zekoslav wrote: 15 Oct 2019 13:33 Is par- from any prefix in Latin or is it part of the root?

If it's part of the root is it maybe related to or even borrowed from French parader?
[cross] [tick] [cross] It is part of the root, but not related at all to French parader.
parificere?
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Is the -s in cors a plural marker?
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shimobaatar wrote: 15 Oct 2019 14:25 Is the -s in cors a plural marker?
[cross] It is not – it is part of the root.
Zekoslav wrote: 15 Oct 2019 13:57parificere?
[cross] There is no attested (Classical/Vulgar) Latin verb which is ancestor to pareïr – it is a later derivation.
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Oh, I missed the bit about cursus above.

Is the verb derived from a noun?
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shimobaatar wrote: 15 Oct 2019 21:00 Oh, I missed the bit about cursus above.

Is the verb derived from a noun?
[cross] No, an adjective.
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Jackk wrote: 15 Oct 2019 21:52
shimobaatar wrote: 15 Oct 2019 21:00 Oh, I missed the bit about cursus above.

Is the verb derived from a noun?
[cross] No, an adjective.
Makes sense considering the verb ends in -ir (productive ending for deadjectival verbs in Romance). Am I correct in assuming that it's derived simply by adding -ir, making pare- the stem? If so, is the adjective related to French pareil?
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Zekoslav wrote: 16 Oct 2019 09:37
Jackk wrote: 15 Oct 2019 21:52
shimobaatar wrote: 15 Oct 2019 21:00 Oh, I missed the bit about cursus above.

Is the verb derived from a noun?
[cross] No, an adjective.
Makes sense considering the verb ends in -ir (productive ending for deadjectival verbs in Romance). Am I correct in assuming that it's derived simply by adding -ir, making pare- the stem? If so, is the adjective related to French pareil?
[tick] [tick] Correct on both fronts! [:D] (although the stem is actually parei-, the <ï> being originally a ligature of <ii>).
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Jackk wrote: 16 Oct 2019 09:46
Zekoslav wrote: 16 Oct 2019 09:37
Jackk wrote: 15 Oct 2019 21:52
shimobaatar wrote: 15 Oct 2019 21:00 Oh, I missed the bit about cursus above.

Is the verb derived from a noun?
[cross] No, an adjective.
Makes sense considering the verb ends in -ir (productive ending for deadjectival verbs in Romance). Am I correct in assuming that it's derived simply by adding -ir, making pare- the stem? If so, is the adjective related to French pareil?
[tick] [tick] Correct on both fronts! [:D] (although the stem is actually parei-, the <ï> being originally a ligature of <ii>).
Now what could that mean... the adjective usually means "equal" or "similar". Is it equalize or something similar? Compare?
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Zekoslav wrote: 16 Oct 2019 10:07 Now what could that mean... the adjective usually means "equal" or "similar". Is it equalize or something similar? Compare?
I'd say "equalise" is closer than "compare", but it has rather a specific meaning (which relates to its object cors).
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Not being a native English speaker may get the best of me since my wording may be inexact... assuming cors still means something like 'way', does it mean "to level a road"? Reminds me of what John the Baptist says in the Gospels but it may have a more physical sense here, ofc.
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