Well, do you have ideas about a group of Chamic langs (all open syllables like Malagasy, presumably) spoken on Indian Ocean islands? Is it logical for them to use a Brahmic-derived (Indic) script while being Muslim? Recently I'm reading From Ancient Cham to Modern Dialects but have no particular ideas as of now. Perhaps an early diverged language like Acehnese, spoken by first-millennium Chams who managed to travel west to Mauritius, Reunion and Seychelles. I also recommend Malagasy Dialects and the Peopling of Madagascar, but it still remains a mystery how those people moved to Madagascar; one of the hypotheses is that South Kalimantan peoples were taken as slaves by Malay-speaking sailors (many of which came from Banjar region). Another seems to say that the ancestor of the Malagasy first moved to southern Sumatra and were in contact with local Malays for some centuries. I wonder if they're any archaeological evidence supporting this.dva_arla wrote: ↑30 Dec 2019 12:36 I know that this Turklang is on hiatus for a while, but just want to drop some stuff here:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/43391366
https://www.christopherculver.com/langu ... uvash.html
As for this conlang, the name may change to Sékyl /sɛːkel/ in concordance with Székely, due to (folk etymological) links to the word szék 'seat; chair', from old Turkic *seki or *sekü, which becomes sék in the conlang (due to complementary lengthening); kyl is the word for house. I currently use e and y to represent /ɛ~æ/ and /e/ respectively, and acutes to represent long vowels; the resulting orthography is a blend of Czech-Slovak and Hungarian styles. BTW the 3sg/pl possessive suffix for singular noun is now -a/-e (as in Hungarian) after consonants, but -j after vowels (and -š for kinship terms and some inalienable possessives), and almost all instances of high short vowel at the end of stems (of native stock) are eliminated; the attributive/adj. forming suffix for nouns is -i (as in Hungarian), from a weakening (by analogy) form of *-ki. I got inspiration for this from Slavic-Albanian Language Contact, Convergence and Coexistence.. As for periodization of this conlang, here's a reference, The Periodization and Sources of Chuvash Linguistic History:
I'm hesitant about how to name the Oghur languages spoken in Danube and Carpathian basins; the former is Danube Bulgar (DB), but we don't have much information about the later. A Russian study referred the language of Nagy-Szent-Miklos Treasure as Avar [1]; besides, we don't know the relationship between Kabar, Khalyzian etc. and DB, whether they form a dialect continuum and so on. Anyway, the point of divergence (depart) is around 9th century, or from the beginning of LOB II period.Ancient Bulgarian. This is the period when the Bulgarian dialects develop-
ed within the LAT unity. This lasted from the first centuries В. C. until
the beginning of the 4th century A. D. when the Ancient Bulgarian tribes
together with other Western Turks moved to the West.
Old Bulgarian. Old Bulgarian can be divided into two sub-periods. Early
Old Bulgarian lasted from the appearance of the Onogur-Bulgarian tribes
in Khazakhstan around the middle of the 4th century, until the dissolution
of the Great Bulgarian Empire around 670. Late Old Bulgarian can be
further subdivided. LOB I lasted until the 9th century. This is an important
turning-point in the history of the Old Bulgarian people. The Turkish-
speaking Bulgars living in the Balkans were rapidly assimilated by the
Slavs towards the end of the 8th century (see pp. 147-161). The Magyars
living in close contact with the Onogur-Bulgarian people conquered the
Carpathian basin and lost contact with them (for more detail, see pp. 141-
147). The Volga Bulgars slowly moved to the north and founded the Volga
Bulgarian Empire in the 0th century, firat under Khazar supremacy. Late
Old Bulgarian II is the period between the 9th century and the Mongolian
conquest in 1286/1236. The Khazar Empire, in which Bulgarian-speaking
groups played an important role, ceased to exist in the 10th century. We
have, however, no reliable data on the fate of the inhabitants of the Khazar
Empire.
Middle Bulgarian begins with the destruction of the Volga Bulgarian
Empire. During the reign of the Golden Horde we have to reckon with the
matisive immigration of Kipchak tribes. Some Volga Bulgarian groups
weie Tataricized, while others evaded the Kipchak intrusion, but got into
close contact with the Finno-Ugric people living in the forests. This is the
time when the formation of the present Chuvash language began. Early
Middle Bulgarian lasted until the organization of the Kazan Khanate in
the 1430s. In Late Middle Bulgarian, the influence of the Kipchak-Tatar
grew considerably. Late Middle Bulgarian lasted until the fall of Kazan
in 1551/1552.
New Bulgarian can also be called Chuvash if we speak about the periodi-
zation of the history of the language. In fact, the Tatars of the Kazan
territory called themselves Bulgars until recent times, for ethnically, and
in respect of political tradition they had much in common with the Bulgars.
Though the influence of the Kipchak-Tatar language did not diminish in.
the new Bulgarian period, the Russian influence grew significantly. The
Christianization of the Chuvash began. Early New Bulgarian or Early
Chuvash is the period from the fall of Kazan until the first written source
in the Chuvash language: 1723, the compilation of Strahlenberg's word-list
(published in 1730). The second sub-period lasted until the formation of the
Chuvash literary language at about the end of the 19th century. After
the October Revolution, Modern Chuvash began to develop.
In my internal history, LOB II period is characterized by heavy contact with South Slavic and Hungarian, and lasts until the formation of the Kingdom of Hungary around 1000, when Kabar-Khalysian tribes from Bihar migrated to Transylvania as border guards, contacting with earlier Danube Bulgar refugees(?) as well as descendents of Avars. Thus began the Early MB period, when the Székely society began to form its unique identity as an autonomous entity within Hungary, and Rovas script was developed; the Slavic varieties in contact became mainly East Slavic in what was later Moldavia; dialect leveling (as well as further convergence with Hungarian and Eastern Romance) began, and Slavic influence diminished. Late MB period starts in mid-12th century due to Mongolian invasions, after that the Kipchak and Mongolic influence expanded; there was also genetic exchange with Transylvanian Saxons (Teutonic Knights), and Middle High German loanwords entered the language. Next it's Early NB period after the Battle of Mohacs, and the main source of contact shifted to Ottoman Turkic and Romanian again. Late NB starts around 1710s, when Habsburg rule was consolidated, and a new wave of German and Latin loanwords entered. Modern Sekyl starts from about 1850s, when modern orthography had appeared.
[1] Аварская надпись на сосуде из клада Надь-Сент-Миклош, Мудрак О.А. (Москва)