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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs 2

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qwed117 wrote:
19 May 2020 17:06
Next word: Pèi Houx Haiƀƀentou /'peɪ̯ 'ɸouʃ haɪ̯b'bentoʊ̯/
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- does Pèi modify Houx, or Haiƀƀentou?
- did Houx begin with an obstruent in Latin (if so, was it a fricative?)
- does Haiƀƀentou descend from a single word used in Classical Latin?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs 2

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Jackk wrote:
24 May 2020 20:59
- did Houx begin with an obstruent in Latin (if so, was it a fricative?)
qwed117 wrote:
03 May 2020 20:56
shimobaatar wrote:
03 May 2020 15:44
Looks interesting. Did the ancestor of the second word begin with <f-> in Classical Latin?
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Did haiƀƀentou, or at least the first part of it, originally begin with <f-> as well?

Unless I'm missing something:

pèi
  • Does not mean "fish".
  • Not a verb.
  • Not an article/determiner.
  • Sort of means "small", but not quite, at least not in this context.
houx
  • Began with <f-> in Classical Latin.
  • Not related to "folly" or Classical Latin focus.
  • Not a verb.
  • An adjective.
haiƀƀentou
  • Not a verb.
  • Not derived from a verb.
  • The head of the noun phrase.

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs 2

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ooh, thanks for compling the info so far shimo! [:D]
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs 2

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Jackk wrote:
24 May 2020 20:59
- does Pèi modify Houx, or Haiƀƀentou?
- does Haiƀƀentou descend from a single word used in Classical Latin?
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shimobaatar wrote:
24 May 2020 21:24

Did haiƀƀentou, or at least the first part of it, originally begin with <f-> as well?
[tick]
shimobaatar wrote:
24 May 2020 21:24
Unless I'm missing something:

pèi
  • Does not mean "fish".
  • Not a verb.
  • Not an article/determiner.
  • Sort of means "small", but not quite, at least not in this context.
houx
  • Began with <f-> in Classical Latin.
  • Not related to "folly" or Classical Latin focus.
  • Not a verb.
  • An adjective.
haiƀƀentou
  • Not a verb.
  • Not derived from a verb.
  • The head of the noun phrase.
all of that looks right, but I think at later stages of the game, perhaps not now, it might be useful to realize that the words are all capitalized.
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs 2

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qwed117 wrote:
27 May 2020 20:48
all of that looks right, but I think at later stages of the game, perhaps not now, it might be useful to realize that the words are all capitalized.
Oh fun! Does it refer to a place?

hmm
Does Haibbentou have direct cognates in existing romlangs?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs 2

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Jackk wrote:
27 May 2020 21:03
qwed117 wrote:
27 May 2020 20:48
all of that looks right, but I think at later stages of the game, perhaps not now, it might be useful to realize that the words are all capitalized.
Oh fun! Does it refer to a place?

hmm
Does Haibbentou have direct cognates in existing romlangs?
[cross]
[cross]
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qwed117 wrote:
27 May 2020 20:48
all of that looks right, but I think at later stages of the game, perhaps not now, it might be useful to realize that the words are all capitalized.
Oh, thank you! For some reason, I'd just been assuming that the capitalization wasn't important.

Is Haiƀƀentou made up of three or more morphemes?

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shimobaatar wrote:
27 May 2020 23:17
qwed117 wrote:
27 May 2020 20:48
all of that looks right, but I think at later stages of the game, perhaps not now, it might be useful to realize that the words are all capitalized.
Oh, thank you! For some reason, I'd just been assuming that the capitalization wasn't important.

Is Haiƀƀentou made up of three or more morphemes?
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Haiƀƀ-ent-ou?

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shimobaatar wrote:
27 May 2020 23:59
Haiƀƀ-ent-ou?
[tick]
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs 2

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qwed117 wrote:
28 May 2020 00:49
shimobaatar wrote:
27 May 2020 23:59
Haiƀƀ-ent-ou?
[tick]
- is Haibb- the root; does it carry the semantic content?
- does -ou mark for case or number?
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Jackk wrote:
29 May 2020 21:31
qwed117 wrote:
28 May 2020 00:49
shimobaatar wrote:
27 May 2020 23:59
Haiƀƀ-ent-ou?
[tick]
- is Haibb- the root; does it carry the semantic content?
- does -ou mark for case or number?
[tick]
[maybe] (yes but null marking)
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Does -ent- descend from a Latin suffix? If so, was it a verbal suffix?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs 2

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Jackk wrote:
30 May 2020 14:29
Does -ent- descend from a Latin suffix? If so, was it a verbal suffix?
[tick] (it got contaminated tho)
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Is -ent- related to Latin -entia?
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Jackk wrote:
01 Jun 2020 01:53
Is -ent- related to Latin -entia?
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qwed117 wrote:
01 Jun 2020 01:49
(it got contaminated tho)
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Hmmmm....
Does the ancestor of Haibb- contain <a> and <b>?
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Jackk wrote:
04 Jun 2020 22:51
Hmmmm....
Does the ancestor of Haibb- contain <a> and <b>?
[tick] [cross]

Sorry for my absence; as I wrote on the discord channel, my computer broke around two weeks ago, and I haven’t been able to talk much since. I can try accessing the cbb from my phone but it’s not as easy, and there might be more lags like this and typos abound. If you all are okay with that, then I will continue with this word, but if need be I can just disclose the word and allow the next person to create the challenge
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs 2

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qwed117 wrote:
17 Jun 2020 02:15
Sorry for my absence...
No problem; sorry to hear about your technical issues.


hmm... is the <bb> from a cluster involving a labial? In particular, from <mp>?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs 2

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Jackk wrote:
17 Jun 2020 11:30
qwed117 wrote:
17 Jun 2020 02:15
Sorry for my absence...
No problem; sorry to hear about your technical issues.
[+1] I'm also fine with continuing with this current word.

Pèi Houx Haiƀƀentou
  • The fact that all three words are capitalized may be significant.
  • Does not refer to a place.
Pèi
  • Does not mean "fish".
  • Not a verb.
  • Not an article/determiner.
  • Sort of means "small", but not quite, at least not in this context.
  • Modifies the head of the noun phrase.
Houx
  • Began with <f-> in Classical Latin.
  • Not related to "folly" or Classical Latin focus.
  • Not a verb.
  • An adjective.
Haiƀƀentou
  • Not a verb.
  • Not derived from a verb.
  • The head of the noun phrase.
  • Not descended from a single Classical Latin word.
  • Does not have any direct cognates in existing Romance languages.
  • Made up of three morphemes: Haiƀƀ-ent-ou
  • Haiƀƀ- originally began with <f->.
  • Haiƀƀ- is the root, carrying the semantic content.
  • The ancestor of Haiƀƀ- contained <-a->, but not <-b->.
  • -ent- is descended from a Classical Latin suffix which has been "contaminated".
  • -ent- is not descended from a verbal suffix.
  • -ent- is not related to Classical Latin -entia.
  • Case and number are not overtly marked.

If not something like <-mp->, is <-ƀƀ-> in the third word descended from a cluster involving <-v-> in Classical Latin?

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