Do or Do Not
Do or Do Not
Yup. A pearl of wisdom from the Yoda the Jedi Master. It's about time, too.
Fac aut noli facere. Non est conari.
make<PRS.ACT.IMPTV.2SG> CNJ PROHIB<PRS.ACT.IMPTV.2SG> make<PRS.ACT.INF> | NEG be<PRS.INDIC>3SG attempt<PRS.DEP.INF>
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Fac aut noli facere. Non est conari.
make<PRS.ACT.IMPTV.2SG> CNJ PROHIB<PRS.ACT.IMPTV.2SG> make<PRS.ACT.INF> | NEG be<PRS.INDIC>3SG attempt<PRS.DEP.INF>
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Re: Do or Do Not
Koine
ἢ ποίησον ἢ μὴ ποιήσῃς · οὐκ ἔνι πειράζειν.
CNJ do<AOR.ACT.IMPTV>2SG CNJ PROHIB do<AOR.ACT.SBJV>2SG | NEG exist.in.a.place<PRS>3SG attempt<PRS.ACT.INF>
Κάνε ή μην κάνεις · δεν υπάρχει προσπάθεια.
do<IMPTV>2SG CNJ PROHIB do<PRS>2SG | NEG exist<PRS>3SG attempt.NOM.SG
ἢ ποίησον ἢ μὴ ποιήσῃς · οὐκ ἔνι πειράζειν.
CNJ do<AOR.ACT.IMPTV>2SG CNJ PROHIB do<AOR.ACT.SBJV>2SG | NEG exist.in.a.place<PRS>3SG attempt<PRS.ACT.INF>
Κάνε ή μην κάνεις · δεν υπάρχει προσπάθεια.
do<IMPTV>2SG CNJ PROHIB do<PRS>2SG | NEG exist<PRS>3SG attempt.NOM.SG
Re: Do or Do Not
NB: Since Klingons are not ones to simply 'not do', I tweaked the quote a little to match their ethos.
yInIDQo' neH. yIHIv pagh yIHoH.
IMPTV.2SG.SBJ.attempt.PROHIB | IMPTV.2SG.SBJ.attack CNJ IMPTV.2SG.SBJ.kill
Do not just try; attack or kill.
I orginally had yIHIvQo' , but that seemed like letting the opponent live, which would be worse than simply trying.
Then I had yIghach 'lie in wait' or yIHIvrup 'be ready to attack', but, in the Klingon Art of War, these actions are likewise antithetical to the Klingon Warrior Spirit; it's what snakes and cowards do.
So, the best pair I could come up with was kill, or, failing that, at least attack. Both are focused uses of all one's warrior spirit, rather than just a half-hearted attempt.
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Reminds me of this bit of Qonosian wisdom:
yIQeqQo’ neH. DoS yIqIp!
IMPTV.2SG.SBJ.aim.PROHIB only | target IMPTV.2SG.SBJ.strike
Don't just aim; hit the target!
This may just be the only way a Klingon might see the distinction Yoda sets up.
yInIDQo' neH. yIHIv pagh yIHoH.
IMPTV.2SG.SBJ.attempt.PROHIB | IMPTV.2SG.SBJ.attack CNJ IMPTV.2SG.SBJ.kill
Do not just try; attack or kill.
I orginally had yIHIvQo' , but that seemed like letting the opponent live, which would be worse than simply trying.
Then I had yIghach 'lie in wait' or yIHIvrup 'be ready to attack', but, in the Klingon Art of War, these actions are likewise antithetical to the Klingon Warrior Spirit; it's what snakes and cowards do.
So, the best pair I could come up with was kill, or, failing that, at least attack. Both are focused uses of all one's warrior spirit, rather than just a half-hearted attempt.
http://orig12.deviantart.net/91cc/f/200 ... esores.jpg
http://img12.deviantart.net/9c39/i/2012 ... 4odq7b.jpg
http://img08.deviantart.net/d12f/i/2014 ... 7rb4lq.jpg
http://t01.deviantart.net/_w6IORAKVQrDg ... 9cg7sx.jpg
Reminds me of this bit of Qonosian wisdom:
yIQeqQo’ neH. DoS yIqIp!
IMPTV.2SG.SBJ.aim.PROHIB only | target IMPTV.2SG.SBJ.strike
Don't just aim; hit the target!
This may just be the only way a Klingon might see the distinction Yoda sets up.
Re: Do or Do Not
Rozwi
Ane vu deχruepa. Yaza tēwepa ra vu tēwepa.
ADV PROHIB | CNJ make<IMPTV> CNJ PROHIB make<IMPTV>
Do not merely try; either do or don't do.
Ane vu deχruepa. Yaza tēwepa ra vu tēwepa.
ADV PROHIB | CNJ make<IMPTV> CNJ PROHIB make<IMPTV>
Do not merely try; either do or don't do.
Re: Do or Do Not
Calef
du av nat--dan ta
[tu av na̰ - tã θa]
Do or not--don't try
Calef is WIP
du av nat--dan ta
[tu av na̰ - tã θa]
Do or not--don't try
Calef is WIP
Re: Do or Do Not
Swahili:
Fanya au usifanye. Hakuna jaribu.
fany au u-si-fany-e | ha-ku-na jaribu
do/make or 2-NEG-do/make-SBJV | NEG-17-COM try
Do or do not. There is no try.
I wasn't quite sure whether "try" should be an imperative verb or a noun ... but by lucky coincidence, jaribu is both.
Fanya au usifanye. Hakuna jaribu.
fany au u-si-fany-e | ha-ku-na jaribu
do/make or 2-NEG-do/make-SBJV | NEG-17-COM try
Do or do not. There is no try.
I wasn't quite sure whether "try" should be an imperative verb or a noun ... but by lucky coincidence, jaribu is both.
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Re: Do or Do Not
Yélian
Reyas ù cireyas, cut civærreyas.
[ˈɾeːʃɐs ʊ kɨˈɾeːʃɐs, kʉ̆t‿ɨʋəˈɾeːʃɐs]
do-JUS.2SG XOR NEG-do-JUS.2SG, but NEG-CON-do-JUS.2SG
Do or do not, but don't try.
Ular
你订做择别做择你,但别试你。
Má nūn lhó ngā ùn lhó ngā má, pár ùn thú má.
[mɑ́ nȳn ʟɔ́ ŋɑ̄ ùn ʟɔ́ ŋɑ̄ mɑ́, pɑ́ɹ ùn tʰý mɑ́]
TOP.2SG IMP do choose prevent do choose 2SG, but NEG.IMP try 2SG
Do or do not; but don't try.
Reyas ù cireyas, cut civærreyas.
[ˈɾeːʃɐs ʊ kɨˈɾeːʃɐs, kʉ̆t‿ɨʋəˈɾeːʃɐs]
do-JUS.2SG XOR NEG-do-JUS.2SG, but NEG-CON-do-JUS.2SG
Do or do not, but don't try.
Ular
你订做择别做择你,但别试你。
Má nūn lhó ngā ùn lhó ngā má, pár ùn thú má.
[mɑ́ nȳn ʟɔ́ ŋɑ̄ ùn ʟɔ́ ŋɑ̄ mɑ́, pɑ́ɹ ùn tʰý mɑ́]
TOP.2SG IMP do choose prevent do choose 2SG, but NEG.IMP try 2SG
Do or do not; but don't try.
Wipe the glass. This is the usual way to start, even in the days, day and night, only a happy one.
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Re: Do or Do Not
In Itlani:
"Djamó ta khiyefan, korunyate ba korunyate ra!"
(Beyond try, do or do not!)
"Djamó ta khiyefan, korunyate ba korunyate ra!"
(Beyond try, do or do not!)
Re: Do or Do Not
Paatherye
कासेकेज़ मू नीषेज़ कासमे, वेते नीषेज़ फोदेमे.
Kāsekes mū nīșes kāsame, wete nīșes phēdeme.
[kaːˈsekes muː ˈniːʃes ˈkaːsame, ˈwete ˈniːʃes ˈpʰeːdeme]
do.IMP.2SG or NEG.IMP.2SG do.INF, but NEG.IMP.2SG try.INF
Do or don't, but don't try.
कासेकेज़ मू नीषेज़ कासमे, वेते नीषेज़ फोदेमे.
Kāsekes mū nīșes kāsame, wete nīșes phēdeme.
[kaːˈsekes muː ˈniːʃes ˈkaːsame, ˈwete ˈniːʃes ˈpʰeːdeme]
do.IMP.2SG or NEG.IMP.2SG do.INF, but NEG.IMP.2SG try.INF
Do or don't, but don't try.
Wipe the glass. This is the usual way to start, even in the days, day and night, only a happy one.
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Re: Do or Do Not
Classical Ĝate n Tim Ar
Téh re téh r. Tóál ðegí r lü.
[téh ɹè téh ɹ̩ ‖ tóál θèɣí ɹ̩ lỳ]
act or.SENT act NEG | ATT attempt NEG 4
'Take action, or take no action. It is not possible to attempt something.'/'Act, or don't act. One cannot try.'
Téh re téh r. Tóál ðegí r lü.
[téh ɹè téh ɹ̩ ‖ tóál θèɣí ɹ̩ lỳ]
act or.SENT act NEG | ATT attempt NEG 4
'Take action, or take no action. It is not possible to attempt something.'/'Act, or don't act. One cannot try.'
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Re: Do or Do Not
Rireinutire
au teñe' au teñese': tusu yakasevo:
/ɑu ˈteŋeʔ ɑu ˈteŋeˌseʔ || ˈtusu ˈjɑkɑˌsevo/
au teñe-' au teñe-se-' || tusu ya-ka-se-vo ||
xor do-IMP xor do-NEG-IMP || try.NOM be-PRS-NEG-INFR ||
Either do or do not. There is no try.
When nine hundred years old you get, peremptory imperative you too may use.
Translation challenge 97/100
au teñe' au teñese': tusu yakasevo:
/ɑu ˈteŋeʔ ɑu ˈteŋeˌseʔ || ˈtusu ˈjɑkɑˌsevo/
au teñe-' au teñe-se-' || tusu ya-ka-se-vo ||
xor do-IMP xor do-NEG-IMP || try.NOM be-PRS-NEG-INFR ||
Either do or do not. There is no try.
When nine hundred years old you get, peremptory imperative you too may use.
Translation challenge 97/100
Re: Do or Do Not
Yorkish
Gʒar els gʒar ick. Thar is int ettle.
/car ɛls car ɪk | θar ɪs ɪnt ɛtəl/
do or do NEG | there be.PRS.3 NEG.DET try
Gʒar els gʒar ick. Thar is int ettle.
/car ɛls car ɪk | θar ɪs ɪnt ɛtəl/
do or do NEG | there be.PRS.3 NEG.DET try
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Conlangs: Hawntow, Yorkish, misc.
she/her
Conlangs: Hawntow, Yorkish, misc.
she/her
Re: Do or Do Not
3SDL:
<§NIM<§ªNIº<§»
(necessarily going, and perhaps necessarily going back, and not, not moving...)
you have to go, or come back, but don't wait...
<§NIM<§ªNIº<§»
(necessarily going, and perhaps necessarily going back, and not, not moving...)
you have to go, or come back, but don't wait...