griushkoent conlang thread

Khemehekis · Post by **Khemehekis** » 10 Aug 2020 12:39

Question for Reyzadren: Do you have a method of converting English words into Griuskant ones? I had a look at your dictionary and I noticed a lot of correlations (so many English words beginning with th- have Griuskant equivalents beginning with zh-, etc.)

Reyzadren · Post by **Reyzadren** » 11 Aug 2020 00:52

Let's rephrase that question a bit.

Suppose I said yes, then what of those without correlations?
(Note: This is not a trick question. If there is enough correlation for you, then you may as well consider it seem as such. If it's not enough, then that doesn't explain it.)
A more direct answer: No.

Also, I hadn't officially announced the dictionary anywhere in this thread (because it's still in beta), so I guess you jumped ahead of me on that one, oh well. Didn't expect you to take interest in a low word count conlang tbh.

Khemehekis · Post by **Khemehekis** » 13 Aug 2020 11:48

Reyzadren wrote: ↑11 Aug 2020 00:52 Let's rephrase that question a bit.

Suppose I said yes, then what of those without correlations?
(Note: This is not a trick question. If there is enough correlation for you, then you may as well consider it seem as such. If it's not enough, then that doesn't explain it.)
A more direct answer: No.

OK, then let me ask it this way: Is the seeming presence of correlations a coincidence?

And if not, then how do you explain it?

Also, I hadn't officially announced the dictionary anywhere in this thread (because it's still in beta), so I guess you jumped ahead of me on that one, oh well.

Didn't know it wasn't a finished project. But at least I didn't link it!

Didn't expect you to take interest in a low word count conlang tbh.

I wouldn't call 3,000 words a "low word count conlang". 3,000 words is more than probably 95% of conlangs ever get. When the lexicon milestones thread began, people were saying things like, "My conlangs have about 7 words". Of all the conlangs listed on, say, Janko's page, how many have more than 10,000 words? How many have more than 1,000 words? The vast majority are scraplangs created by scrappers that have long since been scrapped since the days when Janko added them to his page.

3,000 words is impressive! You've obviously had your conlang for many years.

Reyzadren · Post by **Reyzadren** » 14 Aug 2020 05:01

Some are contrived coincidences, some are known (the textbook sometimes mentions this to facilitate learning the viewpoints of speakers there). I try not to overthink things tbh, and just dissociate the words from irl. It is what it is over there.

No worries, it's just me testing links before announcing stuff. If the link works, it stays.

Reyzadren · Post by **Reyzadren** » 06 Sep 2020 23:57

Autumn 2020 griuskant update!

* Nebula awards translation
* High school syllabus
* Book: perbduyaeij
* Web-to-print: iantklez riounds

Nebula awards translation

A nominee of the Nebula Awards for best short story in 2019, A Catalog of Storms by Fran Wilde, is translated into griuskant. Also, a nominee of the Rhysling Award for the best poem in 2019, Dragon Mountain by Mary Soon Lee, is also translated into griuskant.
Awards griuskant translation 2019.

Here are more from 2011:
Mama, We are Zhenya, Your Son by Tom Crosshill. (Short story nominee)
The Sea King's Second Bride by C.S.E. Cooney. (Poem winner)
Awards griuskant translation 2011.

High school syllabus

Previously, several syllabi at the GCSE stage were translated into griuskant. Now, A-level subjects are now included amongst them.
aeving. Compare: A-level Mathematics (page 11 onwards)
saewais Compare: A-level Chemistry (page 12 onwards)
duyaeij Compare: A-level Biology (page 12 onwards)
ijzufon Compare: A-level Government & politics (page 16 onwards)

Also, more GCSE subjects are now translated into griuskant.
glongk. Compare: GCSE Physical education (page 7 onwards)
ijzufon Compare: GCSE Citizenship (page 10 onwards)

Alternate versions:

10el kaejaej

11el kaejyaej

Book: perbduyaeij

Several space travellers were shipwrecked and stranded on a living planet. They wrote down a survival manual for future generations.
perbduyaeij.

Web-to-print: iantklez riounds

Previously, many short reading texts were uploaded onto my personal website that is fully written in griuskant, and were compiled into a single book. Now, with added online material, another book is produced, entitled iantklez riounds, totalling over 200 pages of new content.

Web-to-print storybook: iantklez riounds

Reyzadren · Post by **Reyzadren** » 06 Dec 2020 22:36

Winter 2020 griuskant update!

* Story: shaz daig met
* Book: thaenvaeron
* Song: haezhgeth
* Song: eshpaerj

Story: shaz daig met

Some people in the narou region apparently lost their shadow. A news report highlights this strange event.
shaz daig met

Book: thaenvaeron

Factory training manual. thaenvaeron.

Song: haezhgeth

A song about people living in the ocean, sung in griuskant.
haezhgeth

Lyrics with romanisation shown below. Original script link.

Spoiler:

Song: eshpaerj

A song about a device that protects one from the rain, sung in griuskant.
eshpaerj

Lyrics with romanisation shown below. Original script link.

Spoiler:

Reyzadren · Post by **Reyzadren** » 01 Mar 2021 22:50

Spring 2021 griuskant update!

* Story: and aezanar
* Song: zaubar hethe
* Song: caeims

Story: and aezanar

One who watches the stars ascend.
and aezanar

Song: zaubar hethe

A song about townsfolk anticipating someone, a deadly sorcerer returning from exile, sung in griuskant.
zaubar hethe

Lyrics with romanisation shown below. Original script link.

Spoiler:

Song: caeims

A song about a prisoner who is trapped under a mountain over thousands of years, sung in griuskant.
caeims

Lyrics with romanisation shown below. Original script link.

Spoiler:

Reyzadren · Post by **Reyzadren** » 03 Jun 2021 00:17

~~Summer 2021 griuskant update!~~

Karaoke Happy Fun Time!

* Song: oth zidan vuzh zheg
* Song: shur az hin aesk
* Voice: zaumsyaej

Song: oth zidan vuzh zheg

Pop punk song, sung in griuskant.
oth zidan vuzh zheg

Lyrics with romanisation shown below. Original script link.

Spoiler:

Song: shur az hin aesk

Slow sappy singalong, sung in griuskant.
shur az hin aesk

Lyrics with romanisation shown below. Original script link.

Spoiler:

Voice: zaumsyaej

A few months ago, the griuskant translation of A Catalog of Storms by Fran Wilde is released: Link.

Now, a voice recording is available for the first few paragraphs. Romanisation shown below.
zaumsyaej

Spoiler:

Reyzadren · Post by **Reyzadren** » 11 Jun 2021 03:12

* Book: stihkuja prab
* Book: thuzhgjaevvazhen riounds

Book: stihkuja prab

Story about glass.
stihkuja prab

Book: thuzhgjaevvazhen riounds

Stories about leaves.
thuzhgjaevvazhen riounds

Adding more books to the publication.

Reyzadren · Post by **Reyzadren** » 05 Sep 2021 23:43

Autumn 2021 griuskant update!

* Collaboration: Khemehekis song
* Song: varushae uarzag
* Translation: taloem
* Story: aeskae syrt varan yoiz

Collaboration: is fuiras shtud ham + skuyaae vaezhon

Reyzadren and Khemehekis sang together in a CBB collaboration! The song is sung both in Kankonian and griuskant. Khemehekis owns the Lehola galaxy with all sorts of planets, biota and cultures. His conlang, Kankonian, is well known to have more than 75000 word entries. Check out his website here, and subscribe to his youtube channel.

5 guys from behind the road would like such thing in a preferred manner.
is fuiras shtud ham (CBB collab)

Lyrics with romanisation shown below. Original griuskant script link.
Remember, red=Reyzadren, blue=Khemehekis.

CBB collab lyrics romanisation wrote: R: shaiae kuth az skuyaae vaezhon. (The next song is "skuyaae vaezhon".)
K: Is kardasen yakh daluye as “Is Fuiras Shtud Ham”? (I thought the song was "Is Fuiras Shtud Ham"?)
R: shur, shur. aeskes oezi arar. (No, no, let's do it together.)
K: Demen venit. Bamtzehimezi we. Guzhiet! (Good idea. Bilingually. Enjoy!)

Ar as oul rivas
Sem hales pivas
Is mayas gudam
Is fuiras shtud ham

Am bayas na wir as takh
Mui, is trayas frakh
Blatzas bam
Is fuiras shtud ham

kigar vezhon
uayil az zhae haemtaush
kigar vezhon
uayil az zhae flomcith
kigar vezhon
aesk shur talz skuya kigand ost
skuyaae vaezhon

Mui bein oor is
As oul kahoris
Ar sen, “Shil pes andam
Is fuiras shtud ham!”

kigar vezhon
uayil az zhae haemtaush
kigar vezhon
uayil az zhae flomcith
kigar vezhon
aesk shur talz skuya kigand ost
skuyaae vaezhon

shai aesk kan shira zhaed at yaufan uv
ga degzaeilae vyzhon, soz
vazh shursoena hangjith
aesk skuya ost shira
zhaed aeskae rulghaemon

Am pol, wir blatzas
Betzithzeratzas
Wir as, wir as
Wir as, wir as
Os fuiras thesh ar

uayil az zhae haemtaush
uayil az zhae flomcith
aesk shur talz skuya kigand ost
skuyaae vaezhon

uayil az zhae haemtaush
uayil az zhae flomcith
aesk shur talz skuya kigand ost
skuyaae vaezhon

kigar vezhon
uayil az zhae haemtaush
kigar vezhon
uayil az zhae flomcith
kigar vezhon
aesk shur talz skuya kigand ost
skuyaae vaezhon

vezh aesk skuyaae vaezhon

Song: varushae uarzag

A girl's personal daily book, she can't see herself in the mirror. Sung in griuskant.
varushae uarzag

Lyrics with romanisation shown below. Original script link.

Spoiler:

Translation: taloem

Translation/adapation of The Pearl by John Steinbeck.
taloem

Story: aeskae syrt varan yoiz

A nominee of the Nebula Awards for best short story in 2020, My Country Is a Ghost by Eugenia Triantafyllou, is translated into griuskant.
Also, a nominee of the Rhysling Award for the best poem in 2020, The Cinder Girl Burns Brightly by Theodora Goss, is also translated into griuskant.
Awards griuskant translation 2020

Khemehekis · Post by **Khemehekis** » 09 Sep 2021 01:02

Awesome, Reyzadren!

For those of you wondering at the meaning of the Kankonian lyrics, here is a translation:

Ar as oul rivas (You are the only blood)
Sem hales pivas (Among all girls)
Is mayas gudam (I’m about to blush)
Is fuiras shtud ham (I want it thus)

Am bayas na wir as takh (But our worlds are apart)
Mui, is trayas frakh, (And, I must emphasize,)
Blatzas bam (Remain two)
Is fuiras shtud ham (I want it thus)

. . .

Mui bein oor is (But a boy like me)
As oul kahoris (Is just a freak)
Ar sen, “Shil pes andam (You’re all, “For the last time)
Is fuiras shtud ham!” (I want it thus”)

. . .

Am pol, wir blatzas (But anyway, we remain)
Betzithzeratzas (Naturals at love)
Wir as, wir as (We are, we are)
Wir as, wir as (We are, we are)

Os fuiras thesh ar . . . (Don’t want to hear you . . .)

Reyzadren · Post by **Reyzadren** » 06 Dec 2021 01:09

Winter 2021 griushkoent update!

Metal Music Monday \m/

* Song: avas
* Song: uthzhaunendsa
* Translation: ~~haerkzhound~~ klustespalven riounds
* Pictures

Song: avas

World's middle part. Sung in griushkoent.
avas

Lyrics with romanisation shown below. Original script link.

Spoiler:

Song: uthzhaunendsa

Rise up on the earth that belongs to me. Sung in griushkoent.
uthzhaunendsa

Lyrics with romanisation shown below. Original script link.

Spoiler:

Translation: ~~haerkzhound~~ klustespalven riounds

=IMAGE REMOVED=

Several stories were translated into griushkoent: Fields of Gold by Rachel Swirsky, Sauerkraut Station by Ferrett Steinmetz, as well as the award-winning Paper Menagerie by Ken Liu, and an assortment of other works.
Link: klustespalven riounds

2024 EDIT: Re-arranged. Check update notes.

Pictures

Seasonal pictures with the griushkoent script.

Spoiler:

Khemehekis · Post by **Khemehekis** » 28 Dec 2021 18:09

Question: If you had to assign a Myers-Briggs type to each of the four hyper-regions in Aseritonum, what type would you link to each hyper-region?

Reyzadren · Post by **Reyzadren** » 29 Dec 2021 23:28

ashenford ESTJ; eridius INTP; itthalgar ESFP; onumyz INFP;

But wait! Each hyper-region can actually be its own embodiment, so your question ic actually isn't as silly as it seems. It is said that some have actually met the hyper-region themselves, and they are often depicted as villains in stories elsewhere.

Reyzadren · Post by **Reyzadren** » 06 Mar 2022 22:56

Spring 2022 griushkoent update!

* Song: sar saerpar thaf
* Song: thiafaun
* Book: ijfenslef riounds
* Translation: Solarpunk magazine

Song: sar saerpar thaf

Remove the likes. Sung in griushkoent.
sar saerpar thaf

Lyrics with romanisation shown below. Original script link.

Spoiler:

Song: thiafaun

Strange iris. Sung in griushkoent.
thiafaun

Lyrics with romanisation shown below. Original script link.

Spoiler:

Book: ijfenslef riounds

Stories about chairs.
ijfenslef riounds

Translation: Solarpunk magazine

The first ever issue of the Solarpunk magazine was released just this year! To commemorate this event, some passages were translated into griushkoent:
Doomsday Derby by micah epstein.
Harmonious Light by Terese Mason Pierre
Link: Solarpunk magazine (griushkoent)

Plus, listen to the translation of "Of coin crunches and menthol water" by Cosimo Suglia. Romanisation is shown below.
Link: Solarpunk micro fiction (griushkoent audio)

Spoiler:

griushkoent

ijrutia zotvyzhon.
/'idʒrutia 'zɔtvYʒɔn/
advance-hardworking-A-V good-ofwhich-EB-PASS
Demand utopia.

Khemehekis · Post by **Khemehekis** » 06 Mar 2022 23:35

Reyzadren wrote: ↑29 Dec 2021 23:28 ashenford ESTJ; eridius INTP; itthalgar ESFP; onumyz INFP;

But wait! Each hyper-region can actually be its own embodiment, so your question ic actually isn't as silly as it seems. It is said that some have actually met the hyper-region themselves, and they are often depicted as villains in stories elsewhere.

I was thinking ESTJ for Ashenford, too.

I'm an ENFP, so my favorite would be expected to be a toss-up between Itthalgar and Onumyz. (In fact, when I first read your descriptions, I decided Onumyz was my favorite!)

Khemehekis · Post by **Khemehekis** » 06 Mar 2022 23:39

Question: What songs are "varushae uarzag", "sar saerpar thaf", and "thiafaun"? I don't recognize the melodies, nor do the paraphrases sound like any songs I know (I figure the first one is about a diary, though?) Obviously, I could figure out "I Want It That Way" by the Backstreet Boys, and I've already heard the song on the radio and MTV dozens of times. But the other three are a mystery, and I wouldn't know how to begin figuring them out.

Reyzadren · Post by **Reyzadren** » 09 Mar 2022 22:44

^Good choice. ic Reyzadren also lives in onumyz.

Yes, you are on the right track. varushae uarzag = Breaking Benjamin - Diary of Jane
I'll talk about sar saerpar thaf and thiafaun next time, preferably before the next thread update. Remind me if I forget.

Reyzadren · Post by **Reyzadren** » 03 Apr 2022 23:38

Khemehekis wrote: ↑06 Mar 2022 23:39 Question: What songs are "varushae uarzag", "sar saerpar thaf", and "thiafaun"? I don't recognize the melodies, nor do the paraphrases sound like any songs I know (I figure the first one is about a diary, though?) Obviously, I could figure out "I Want It That Way" by the Backstreet Boys, and I've already heard the song on the radio and MTV dozens of times. But the other three are a mystery, and I wouldn't know how to begin figuring them out.

Here you go.

Blackpink - Kill This Love

Dreamcatcher - Odd Eye

Khemehekis · Post by **Khemehekis** » 14 Apr 2022 22:25

Ah, I see. I don't get a chance to hear much K-pop, although Alice 97.3 does play "My Universe" by BTS and Coldplay.

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