The Index Diachronica: THE INDEX DIACHRONICA RIDES AGAIN

[chridd]

I've got a question for Chridd. Could you expand the search function for categories (the things written as capital letters, like B=Back vowel)?

I know this is a late response (since I haven't really been checking this forum much), but you can search for these by manually putting them into the URL: https://chridd.nfshost.com/diachronica/search?q=B

Edit to add: Now capital letters are available below the table.

[Creyeditor]

Thank you so much

[Man in Space]

By year’s end, I want to release an expanded (and corrected—a very nice redditor named /u/SquiDark went through and catalogued errata) version of the Index. Anybody willing to help? My goals are as follows:

- Fix typos
- Correct errors in the lists
- Get rid of the Altaic and Elamite-Dravidian headings because I’m older and wiser now
- Expand the document with further sound changes
- Make the base PDF Unicode-compliant

[jimydog000]

I'm interested.
What will you be using, GitHub maybe?
I have used the Charis SIL font in the past. It supports IPA and looks nice.

[Sequor]

By year’s end, I want to release an expanded (and corrected—a very nice redditor named /u/SquiDark went through and catalogued errata) version of the Index. Anybody willing to help? My goals are as follows:

- Fix typos
- Correct errors in the lists
- Get rid of the Altaic and Elamite-Dravidian headings because I’m older and wiser now
- Expand the document with further sound changes
- Make the base PDF Unicode-compliant

I've learned quite a bit more about Romance linguistics these past few years, and notice various things in the Romance language entries. Can I just post my updates here? Or in another thread?

[Pabappa]

i would like the Hebrew sound shift of /ʕ/ > /ŋ/ removed, as it clearly never happened, and even mentioning it with a "perhaps" is likely to mislead people, as I've seen it brought up several times in conlangs. it's under "Most Wanted Sound Changes" and those are my words in the explanation.

kʲ gʲ > k g in Danish is also mine and Im not sure that ever happened either.

[Flavia]

Oh no, and I took this change as a confirmation than the [?\] > [N] in my conlang is plausible...

[Man in Space]

I'm interested.
What will you be using, GitHub maybe?
I have used the Charis SIL font in the past. It supports IPA and looks nice.

I’m not too familiar with GitHub (at least, not as someone who publishes stuff there) and would need some guidance.

I've learned quite a bit more about Romance linguistics these past few years, and notice various things in the Romance language entries. Can I just post my updates here? Or in another thread?

You could, I suppose, unless the mods feel a dedicated correspondence library thread is more appropriate.

i would like the Hebrew sound shift of /ʕ/ > /ŋ/ removed, as it clearly never happened, and even mentioning it with a "perhaps" is likely to mislead people, as I've seen it brought up several times in conlangs. it's under "Most Wanted Sound Changes" and those are my words in the explanation.

kʲ gʲ > k g in Danish is also mine and Im not sure that ever happened either.

As you wish. I’ll have to do research about Danish.

Oh no, and I took this change as a confirmation than the [?\] > [N] in my conlang is plausible...

I’d say keep it. Rhinoglottophilia is a thing.

[Man in Space]

There's been some talk on the ZBB about turning the Index into a more comprehensive, complete, and accurate database via a custom web site. Figured I'd mention it here too and gauge the interest, if any, in this endeavor.

[Nel Fie]

I'd sure love to see it expanded. I'm still a beginner in conlanging, and without any academic linguistic background, so the Diachronica has so far been my main source, or at the very least a recurrent starting point for learning about historical sound changes - sort of as a "Wikipedia of sound changes" if you will. So, any added features and improvements would get my support.

[Dormouse559]

There's been some talk on the ZBB about turning the Index into a more comprehensive, complete, and accurate database via a custom web site. Figured I'd mention it here too and gauge the interest, if any, in this endeavor.

Yes, please! I use the Index all the time, so I’d certainly appreciate any improvements.

[sangi39]

There's been some talk on the ZBB about turning the Index into a more comprehensive, complete, and accurate database via a custom web site. Figured I'd mention it here too and gauge the interest, if any, in this endeavor.

I'd definitely be interested in an update. I saw some of the ZBB proposals, and they looked pretty good (bradrn's "source tier" suggestion and Moose-tache's suggestion about "collaborative tiers" recently definitely seem like a good addition to any update, as well as the ideas about sources, Wikipedia style)

I tend to use it as well, and I do quite like when sound changes are shown in context. PIE → Armenian *dw- → erk- is great on its own, but what about *tw or *dhw? Or other stop+*w clusters? So even more of that sort of thing would be so good

But yeah, an update like the ones proposed already would be awesome!

[Man in Space]

Things are picking up. Come on down!