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Creyeditor wrote: 08 Jul 2021 08:08 Interestingly though, there are syllables and/or word stress. I feel this paper might explain it well, if you can get your hands on it.
I think everyone agrees there are syllables, but some people argue that there isn't word stress - that there is stress, but it's based on units larger than individual words.

EDIT: if you want a paper, this one discusses the vowellessness and touches on some other issues in passing.
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Right, I think the paper you suggest includes a good summary of the discussion.
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In the accent I speak in French, final /ɛʁ/ is typically pronounced instead as /eʁ/ but final /ɔʁ/ (which is already merged with /oʁ/) is still pronounced as /ɔʁ/. Is there anything specifically about how these vowels or /ʁ/ are pronounced that would cause this discrepancy?
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All4Ɇn wrote: 15 Jul 2021 07:55 In the accent I speak in French, final /ɛʁ/ is typically pronounced instead as /eʁ/ but final /ɔʁ/ (which is already merged with /oʁ/) is still pronounced as /ɔʁ/. Is there anything specifically about how these vowels or /ʁ/ are pronounced that would cause this discrepancy?
French does favor the /e ɔ/ pairing in other contexts, namely in nonfinal open syllables. An extension of that maybe? :wat:
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Dormouse559 wrote: 15 Jul 2021 08:26
All4Ɇn wrote: 15 Jul 2021 07:55 In the accent I speak in French, final /ɛʁ/ is typically pronounced instead as /eʁ/ but final /ɔʁ/ (which is already merged with /oʁ/) is still pronounced as /ɔʁ/. Is there anything specifically about how these vowels or /ʁ/ are pronounced that would cause this discrepancy?
French does favor the /e ɔ/ pairing in other contexts, namely in nonfinal open syllables. An extension of that maybe? :wat:
This is a good point actually. But to make matters more complicated, I mostly only use /o/ in open syllables while keeping /ɔ o/ distinct in closed ones.
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Why is a python called a "brocade snake" in Japanese?
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Khemehekis wrote: 21 Jul 2021 10:01 Why is a python called a "brocade snake" in Japanese?
My guess would be that it's just because of the similarities between their skin and a brocade pattern.
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