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/m n̪ ɲ/ <m n ɲ>
/p pʼ t̪ t̪ʼ ȶ͡ɕ ȶ͡ɕʼ k kʼ kʷ kʷʼ ʔ/ <p ƥ t ƭ c ƈ k ƙ kw ƙw x>
/b~β d̪~ð ȡ͡ʑ~j ɡ~ɣ ɡʷ~w/ <b d j g gw>
/s̪ ɕ h/ <z s h>
/l̪ ʎ/ <l ľ>

/iː ɪ ʊ uː/ <î i u û>
/äː ɐ/ <â a>

/äj äw/ <ai au>

Aa Ââ Bb Cc Ƈƈ Dd Gg Hh Ii Îî Jj Kk Ƙƙ Ll Ľľ Mm Nn Ɲɲ Pp Ƥƥ Ss Tt Ƭƭ Uu Ûû Ww Xx Zz

Next:

/p pʰ b bʱ t tʰ d dʱ k kʰ g gʱ/
/s ʂ h/
/m n ŋ/
/ʋ l j/
/ɽ͡r/

/i iː u uː/
/e eː o oː/
/ɛ ɛː ɔ ɔː/
/a aː/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p pʰ b bʱ t tʰ d dʱ k kʰ g gʱ/ <p ph b bh t th d dh k kh g gh>
/s ʂ h/ <s ṣ h>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ŋ>
/ʋ l j/ <v l y>
/ɽ͡r/ <>

/i iː u uː/ <i ī u ū>
/e eː o oː/ <e ē o ō>
/ɛ ɛː ɔ ɔː/ <ẹ ẹ̄ ọ ọ̄>
/a aː/ <a ā>



Next:
/p pˠ t ɖ k (ʔ)/
/ɸ ɸˠ v w/
/ɳ/

/i ʉ ɯ u ɪ ʊ e ɵ ɤ ɐ ɔ/
/i˩ i˦ i˥ i˩˧ i˥˨˧ i˨˩˦/

/ʔ/ only occurs as a coda – permissible codas are /ɳ w ɸ v ʔ/

/wɔ˩ ɸɪ˩˧ tɯʔ˥˨˧ ɸeʔ˥˨˧ wɵ˩˧ tiɳ˨˩˦.ɸɪ˩˧ ɸˠe˩˧ ɖʉɳ˩ ɐɸ˦ ɖɪʔ˦/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p pˠ t ɖ k (ʔ)/ <p pr t d k (q)>
/ɸ ɸˠ v w/ <f fr v w>
/ɳ/ <n>

/i ʉ ɯ u ɪ ʊ e ɵ ɤ ɐ ɔ/ <i y ư u ê ô e â ơ a o>
/i˩ i˦ i˥ i˩˧ i˥˨˧ i˨˩˦/ <ì i í ị ĩ ỉ>

Aa Áá Àà Ạạ Ãã Ảả Ââ Ấấ Ầầ Ậậ Ẫẫ Ẩẩ Dd Ee Éé Èè Ẹẹ Ẽẽ Ẻẻ Êê Ếế Ềề Ệệ Ễễ Ểể Ff Ii Íí Ìì Ịị Ĩĩ Ỉỉ Kk Nn Oo Óó Òò Ọọ Õõ Ỏỏ Ôô Ốố Ồồ Ộộ Ỗỗ Ổổ Ơơ Ớớ Ờờ Ợợ Ỡỡ Ởở Pp Qq Rr Tt Uu Úú Ùù Ụụ Ũũ Ủủ Ưư Ứứ Ừừ Ựự Ữữ Ửử Vv Ww Yy Ýý Ỳỳ Ỵỵ Ỹỹ Ỷỷ

<Wò fệ tữq fẽq wậ tỉnfệ frệ dỳn af dêq.>
/wɔ˩ ɸɪ˩˧ tɯʔ˥˨˧ ɸeʔ˥˨˧ wɵ˩˧ tiɳ˨˩˦.ɸɪ˩˧ ɸˠe˩˧ ɖʉɳ˩ ɐɸ˦ ɖɪʔ˦/

Next:

/p t k/
/s ʃ ɕ x/
/t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ɕ/
/m n ŋ/
/l ɻ j w/

/i u/
/e o/
/a ɑ/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p t k/ ⟨p t k⟩
/s ʃ ɕ x/ ⟨s š x h⟩
/t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ɕ/ ⟨c č q⟩
/m n ŋ/ ⟨m n g⟩
/l ɻ j w/ ⟨l r y w⟩

/i u/ ⟨i u⟩
/e o/ ⟨e o⟩
/a ɑ/ ⟨á a⟩

Next:
/m n ŋ/
/p b t d k ɡ/
/t͡s t̠͡ʃ ȶ͡ɕ/
/f s z ʃ ʒ ɕ ʑ h/
/l/
/r/

/i y u/
/e o/
/a/
/je ja ju ɥe wi wa wo/
/ej ow/
/aj aw/
/jaw waj/
Not use /ʔ ɰ/ as ⟨q ğ⟩, hate letter ⟨ơ ư⟩
Better use /ɰ~ɯ/ as ⟨v⟩
Won’t use new letters outside unicode, e.g. ⟨c̣⟩, ⟨q̇⟩, ⟨ɛ́⟩, ⟨ɣ̃⟩, etc.
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n ŋ/ <m n ŋ>
/p b t d k ɡ/ <p b t d k g>
/t͡s t̠͡ʃ ȶ͡ɕ/ <c č ć>
/f s z ʃ ʒ ɕ ʑ h/ <f s z š ž ś ź h>
/l/ <l>
/r/ <r>

/i y u/ <i y u>
/e o/ <e o>
/a/ <a>

/je ja ju ɥe wi wa wo/ <ie ia iu ye ui ua uo>
/ej ow/ <ei ou>
/aj aw/ <ai au>
/jaw waj/ <iau uai>

Aa Bb Cc Čč Ćć Dd Ee Ff Gg Hh Ii Kk Ll Mm Nn Ŋŋ Oo Pp Rr Ss Šš Śś Tt Uu Yy Zz Žž Źź

Next:

/p b t d ʈ ɖ c ɟ k g/
/f θ s z ʃ ʒ x/
/m n ɲ/
/l ʎ j w/
/r rʲ/

/i y u/
/e o/
/ə/
/a/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p b t d ʈ ɖ c ɟ k g/ ⟨p b t d ŧ đ ḱ ǵ k g⟩
/f θ s z ʃ ʒ x/ ⟨ph th s z ś ź kh⟩
/m n ɲ/ ⟨m n ń⟩
/l ʎ j w/ ⟨l ĺ y w⟩
/r rʲ/ ⟨r ŕ⟩

/i y u/ ⟨i ü u⟩
/e o/ ⟨e o⟩
/ə/ ⟨ă⟩
/a/ ⟨a⟩

Next:
/m n/
/p pʼ t tʼ ʈ ʈʼ k kʼ qʼ ʔ/
/t͡s t͡sʼ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʼ/
/s sʼ ʂ ʂʼ xʼ χ χʼ h/
/l j w/
/ɽ/

/i ɪ ʊ u/
/a ɐ ɒ/
Not use /ʔ ɰ/ as ⟨q ğ⟩, hate letter ⟨ơ ư⟩
Better use /ɰ~ɯ/ as ⟨v⟩
Won’t use new letters outside unicode, e.g. ⟨c̣⟩, ⟨q̇⟩, ⟨ɛ́⟩, ⟨ɣ̃⟩, etc.
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n/ m n
/p pʼ t tʼ ʈ ʈʼ k kʼ qʼ ʔ/ p p‘ t t‘ ṭ ṭ‘ k k‘ g‘ ’
/t͡s t͡sʼ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʼ/ c c‘ ċ ċ‘
/s sʼ ʂ ʂʼ xʼ χ χʼ h/ s s‘ ṣ ṣ‘ x‘ ḫ ḫ‘ h
/l j w/ l y w
/ɽ/ r

/i ɪ ʊ u/ i e o u
/a ɐ ɒ/ a v q

Next
/b̥ d̥ kʰ ɡ̊/
/f v θ s z ç ʕ h/
/m n/
/l/

/i y u e ø o ɛ œ ɔ a ɑ/
/ɪˤ ʏˤ ʊˤ ɛˤ œˤ ɔˤ ɑˤ/
/iː yː uː eː øː oː aː/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/b̥ d̥ kʰ ɡ̊/ p t kh k
/f v θ s z ç ʕ h/ f v th s z sh hh h
/m n/ m n
/l/ l

/i y u e ø o ɛ œ ɔ a ɑ/ i ui u e oi o ea oe oa a ao
/ɪˤ ʏˤ ʊˤ ɛˤ œˤ ɔˤ ɑˤ/ ih uih uh eh oih oh ah
/iː yː uː eː øː oː aː/ ii uui uu ee ooi oo aa

Next:
/p ɸ t r̥ k x/
/m w n l ŋ j/
/s h/
/æ ɑ ɪ ω/
/æ̀ ǽ æ̂/

/lǽ ω̂sɪ̂ jω̂tæ̂x ω̂x ɪ̂hὼw r̥ɪ́p sɑ̂ ω̂/
ω - near-close near-back unrounded vowel.
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/p ɸ t r̥ k x/ <p f t r k x>
/m w n l ŋ j/ <m w n l g j>
/s h/ <s h>

/æ ɑ ɪ ω/ <a o i u>

/æ̀ ǽ æ̂/ <a á à>

Aa Áá Àà Ff Gg Hh Ii Íí Ìì Jj Kk Ll Mm Nn Oo Óó Òò Pp Rr Ss Tt Uu Úú Ùù Ww Xx

<Lá ùsì jùtàx ùx ìhuw ríp sò ù.>
/lǽ ω̂sɪ̂ jω̂tæ̂x ω̂x ɪ̂hὼw r̥ɪ́p sɑ̂ ω̂/

Next:

/p b t d k g/
/f v s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ/
/t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/
/m n/
/l j w/
/r/

/i y ɨ u/
/e ø o/
/a/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p b t d k g/ ⟨p b t d k g⟩
/f v s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ/ ⟨f v s z ş j h ğ⟩
/t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/ ⟨ç c⟩
/m n/ ⟨m n⟩
/l j w/ ⟨l y w⟩
/r/ ⟨r⟩

/i y ɨ u/ ⟨i ü ı u⟩
/e ø o/ ⟨e ö o⟩
/a/ ⟨a⟩

Next:
/m n ŋ/
/p t k/
/ɸ θ x h/
/l j w/

/i u/
/e o/
/a/
Not use /ʔ ɰ/ as ⟨q ğ⟩, hate letter ⟨ơ ư⟩
Better use /ɰ~ɯ/ as ⟨v⟩
Won’t use new letters outside unicode, e.g. ⟨c̣⟩, ⟨q̇⟩, ⟨ɛ́⟩, ⟨ɣ̃⟩, etc.
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n ŋ/ <m n g>
/p t k/ <p t k>
/ɸ θ x h/ <f c j h>
/l j w/ <l y w>

/i u/ <i u>
/e o/ <e o>
/a/ <a>

Next:
/p pˣ t tˣ k kˣ/
/p’ pˣ’ t’ tˣ’ k’ kˣ’/
/m n ŋ/
/ɸ s sˣ x/
/l j ɥ w/

/i u e ø a ɒ/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p pˣ t tˣ k kˣ/ b p d t g k
/p’ pˣ’ t’ tˣ’ k’ kˣ’/ bq pq dq tq gq kq
/m n ŋ/ m n ng
/ɸ s sˣ x/ f z s h
/l j ɥ w/ l y v w

/i u e ø a ɒ/ i u e ö a å

Next:
/p~ɸ t~r̥ k~x ʔ/
/m~β̃ n~r̃ ŋ~ɣ̃-w̃-ɰ̃-j̃-ɥ̃/
The first variant is after a glottal stop or initially. /ɣ̃-w̃-ɰ̃-j̃-ɥ̃/ are in free variation.
/i ɪ e a u o ɔ a/
/á à â ǎ à̰ â̰ á̤ ǎ̤/
ω - near-close near-back unrounded vowel.
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p~ɸ t~r̥ k~x ʔ/ <f t k ,>
/m~β̃ n~r̃ ŋ~ɣ̃-w̃-ɰ̃-j̃-ɥ̃/ <m n y>

/i ɪ e a u o ɔ a/ <ı ȷ e a u o c a>
/á à â ǎ à̰ â̰ á̤ ǎ̤/ <ạ a a̖ a̗ ả ả̖ ạ̉ ả̗>

Next:
/p t t͡s c kʷ/
/θ s ʃ/
/m n ɹ j w/

/a/
/m̩ n̩ ɹ̩ j̩ w̩/
/a˥ a˩ m̩˥ m̩˩/ etc.
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Re: Romanization game #2

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VaptuantaDoi wrote: 08 Oct 2021 14:30 /m̩ n̩ ɹ̩ j̩ w̩/
/ȷ̍/ and /w̩/ has been simplified as /i/ and /u/.
Not use /ʔ ɰ/ as ⟨q ğ⟩, hate letter ⟨ơ ư⟩
Better use /ɰ~ɯ/ as ⟨v⟩
Won’t use new letters outside unicode, e.g. ⟨c̣⟩, ⟨q̇⟩, ⟨ɛ́⟩, ⟨ɣ̃⟩, etc.
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p t t͡s c kʷ/ <p t c k kw>
/θ s ʃ/ <z s x>
/m n ɹ j w/ <mb nd l j v>

/a/ <a>
/m̩ n̩ ɹ̩ j̩ w̩/ <m n r i u>

/a˥ a˩ m̩˥ m̩˩/ <á a ḿ m>

Aa Áá Bb Cc Dd Ii Íí Jj Kk Ll Mm Ḿḿ Nn Ńń Pp Rr Ŕŕ Ss Tt Uu Úú Vv Ww Xx Zz

Next:

/p b t d k g/
/f v s z ʃ ʒ ç~x ʝ~ɣ h/
/t͡s d͡z t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/
/m n ɲ~ŋ/
/l j w/
/r/

/i iː u uː/
/e eː o oː/
/a aː/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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Anonymous999 wrote: 08 Oct 2021 16:06
VaptuantaDoi wrote: 08 Oct 2021 14:30 /m̩ n̩ ɹ̩ j̩ w̩/
/ȷ̍/ and /w̩/ has been simplified as /i/ and /u/.
I think VaptuantaDoi has meant somewhat more fricated vowels.

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/p b t d k g/ p b t d c g
/f v s z ʃ ʒ ç~x ʝ~ɣ h/ f v s z sh zh ch gh h
/t͡s d͡z t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/ cs cz csh czh
/m n ɲ~ŋ/ m n ƞ
/l j w/ l j w
/r/ r

/i iː u uː/ i ī u ū
/e eː o oː/ e ē o ō
/a aː/ a ā

Next:

/m n̪ n ŋ/ /p t̪ t k/ /b d̪ d g/ /f s̪ s x/ /v z̪ z ɣ/ /w l̪ l j/
/æ ɪ ʊ ɑː iː uː eɪ̯ oʊ̯/
ω - near-close near-back unrounded vowel.
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n̪ n ŋ/ <m ṉ n ŋ>
/p t̪ t k/ <p ṯ t k>
/b d̪ d g/ <b ḏ d g>
/f s̪ s x/ <f s̱ s x>
/v z̪ z ɣ/ <v ẕ z r>
/w l̪ l j/ <w ḻ l y>

/æ ɪ ʊ ɑː iː uː eɪ̯ oʊ̯/ <a i u á í ú ai au>

Aa Áá Bb Dd Ḏḏ Ff Gg Ii Íí Kk Ll Ḻḻ Mm Nn Ṉṉ Ŋŋ Pp Rr Ss S̱s̱ Tt Ṯṯ Uu Úú Vv Ww Xx Yy Zz Ẕẕ

Next:

/p b t d c ɟ k g k͡p g͡b/
/ɸ β s z h/
/t͡s d͡z t͡ɬ d͡ɮ/
/m n ɲ ŋ ŋ͡m/
/ɹ l ɫ j ʎ ɰ w/
/r/

/i u/
/e ø ɤ o/
/æ/
/a/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p b t d c ɟ k g k͡p g͡b/ *p b t d ḱ ǵ k g kᵖ gᵇ
/ɸ β s z h/ *f v s z h
/t͡s d͡z t͡ɬ d͡ɮ/ *ᵗs ᵈz ᵗl ᵈl
/m n ɲ ŋ ŋ͡m/ *m n ń ŋ ŋᵐ
/ɹ l ɫ j ʎ ɰ w/ *rˠ l lˠ y ĺ ɣ w
/r/ *r

/i u/ *i u
/e ø ɤ o/ *e ö ë o
/æ/
/a/ *a

*nékstos:

/m n ŋ/ /ʙ̃ r̃ ʀ̃/ /p t k/ /ʙ̥ r̥ ʀ̥/ /pʰ tʰ kʰ/ /ʙ̥ʰ r̥ʰ ʀ̥ʰ/ /s j/ /r̝̥ r̝̠ʲ/
ω - near-close near-back unrounded vowel.
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Re: Romanization game #2

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Anonymous999 wrote: 08 Oct 2021 16:06
VaptuantaDoi wrote: 08 Oct 2021 14:30 /m̩ n̩ ɹ̩ j̩ w̩/
/ȷ̍/ and /w̩/ has been simplified as /i/ and /u/.
Yeah that’s the idea. It’s just a notational thing to show that they pattern with the other syllabic resonants (like in PIE or Nuxalk)
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Was there basically no change from PIE to English, or is it a false cognate?

/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/ʙ̃ r̃ ʀ̃/ <mb rr gg>
/p t k/ <p t k>
/ʙ̥ r̥ ʀ̥/ <bb tr gk>
/pʰ tʰ kʰ/ <ph th kh>
/ʙ̥ʰ r̥ʰ ʀ̥ʰ/ <bh rh gh>
/s j/ <z j>
/r̝̥ r̝̠ʲ/ <rz rj>

North African inspired:

/m n nˤ ŋ ŋ͡m~ŋ͡ʘ/
/b m͡b t tˤ d n͡d d͡ʒ n͡d͜ʒ k ŋ͡g q k͡p~ʘ ŋ͡m͜g͡b~ŋˀʘ ʔ/
/s sˤ n͡z h/
/l l̃ ɫ ɫ̃ r j j̃ w w̃ ʕ ʕ̃/

/i ĩ ʉ ʉ̃ i: u:/
/ɪ ɪ̃ ʊ ʊ̃/
/ɛ ɛ̃ ə ɞ ɞ̃/
/æ a ã a: ɒ ɒ̃/
/m̩ n̩ ŋ̩/

Vowel tones: /V˨ V˦ V˧˩/ written as /V V̄ V̀/

Vowel harmony: /i ĩ ʉ ʉ̃ ɛ ɛ̃ ɞ ɞ̃/ vs /ɪ ɪ̃ ʊ ʊ̃ a ã ɒ ɒ̃/

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