What did you accomplish today?
Re: What did you accomplish today?
I guess I made some progress on my diachronic conlanging application today, although it mostly consisted of backtracking to ensure that special symbols used in writing sound rules, such as "[" or "#", can be edited by the user to be something else if they need to be freed for some reason. The refactoring was no big deal, but figuring out how to make the values accessible was a bit more of a headscratcher.
Re: What did you accomplish today?
Yes. That would be the superhippopotogonal charge. Up two, over one; up two, back one.Khemehekis wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023 08:53You're welcome.elemtilas wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023 05:05Alright. Imma gonna work on a board game that involves hippoppoppotamussesses and come up with all sorts of ogonalistic words to describe the various moves.Khemehekis wrote: ↑27 Jul 2023 22:56When I read that post, I looked it up on Wiktionary:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hippogonal
Learned a new word today!
The hippo- part comes from the fact that knights are shaped like horses.
Thanks mate!
Will your hippopotami angrily ram into things -- charging? The Angry, Angry, Hippos trope!
Re: What did you accomplish today?
That game sounds very familiar indeed!Lambuzhao wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023 16:04 It can be played with lines, matchsticks, pebbles, marbles, checkers, chesspieces, bits of stuff, paperclips (but not rubberbands nor thumbtacks), spare change, Monopoly pieces, Skittles, M & Ms, Goldberg Chocolate Chews, plastic dinosaurs, nuts, raisins, birthday candles, gummis, old medications in pill form, twigs, metal slugs, very small and delicate origamis, kosher sea salt crystals, whole cardamoms or nutmegs (but not star-anises nor rolls of cinnamon bark), pieces of hard old romano cheese, green army soldiers, stolen credit cards,… almost anything that can be arranged into the ineffable pyramid of 1-3-5-7.
Also, greetings as we pass, ploiogonally, in the night!
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Re: What did you accomplish today?
I have, after a brief consult with The World Lexicon of Grammaticalization, decided that in CT, the causative of status cannot be used to form a standard causative. That is handled with a serial verb construction involving the verb toḫ 'give'. Due to the way SVCs work in CT—pertinently, the verb phrase is VO; you can basically just concatenate verbs in sequence, and those verbs in sequence can take direct objects—the party so instigated ends up as the direct object of toḫ, and then you can call the actual thing they were instigated to act upon as the direct object of the next (or whatever appropriate) verb.
toḫ irü hé méḫ kołhán n érí sihtí ü m hé
'her death caused him to understand their sorrow'
Also I added quite a bit to the CT reference grammar. North of 30 pages, plus front matter.
toḫ irü hé méḫ kołhán n érí sihtí ü m hé
- toḫ
- gve
- irü
- CONT.PERF
- hé
- 3SG
- méḫ
- appreciate
- kołhán
- sorrow
- n
- GEN
- érí
- 3PL
- sihtí
- death
- ü
- DEF
- n
- GEN
- hé
- 3SG
'her death caused him to understand their sorrow'
Also I added quite a bit to the CT reference grammar. North of 30 pages, plus front matter.
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CC = Common Caber
CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
AVDIO · VIDEO · DISCO
CC = Common Caber
CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
Re: What did you accomplish today?
¡ploiogonalmente… claro que sí!elemtilas wrote: ↑07 Aug 2023 01:49That game sounds very familiar indeed!Lambuzhao wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023 16:04 It can be played with lines, matchsticks, pebbles, marbles, checkers, chesspieces, bits of stuff, paperclips (but not rubberbands nor thumbtacks), spare change, Monopoly pieces, Skittles, M & Ms, Goldberg Chocolate Chews, plastic dinosaurs, nuts, raisins, birthday candles, gummis, old medications in pill form, twigs, metal slugs, very small and delicate origamis, kosher sea salt crystals, whole cardamoms or nutmegs (but not star-anises nor rolls of cinnamon bark), pieces of hard old romano cheese, green army soldiers, stolen credit cards,… almost anything that can be arranged into the ineffable pyramid of 1-3-5-7.
Also, greetings as we pass, ploiogonally, in the night!
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Re: What did you accomplish today?
I made some wharol soup...
Re: What did you accomplish today?
I made an abjad, with and without vowels.
quite neat!
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Re: What did you accomplish today?
Wharol? You mean Warhol?
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 90,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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Given the soup can, I figure it's probably safe to assume that was indeed just a typo for "Warhol".
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Re: What did you accomplish today?
Yeah, that was what I thought, since Andy Warhol famously painted Campbell's soup. But moving the aitch two spaces earlier is a pretty strange misspelling (especially since we pronounce the /h/ after the R).shimobaatar wrote: ↑09 Aug 2023 21:53Given the soup can, I figure it's probably safe to assume that was indeed just a typo for "Warhol".
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 90,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 90,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Re: What did you accomplish today?
and I've been doing it all day...
(second accomplishment of the day...)
Re: What did you accomplish today?
Cool! In addition to the construction itself, I really like how you were able to get the bolded text to line up with the gloss. It looks very nice.Man in Space wrote: ↑08 Aug 2023 08:59 I have, after a brief consult with The World Lexicon of Grammaticalization, decided that in CT, the causative of status cannot be used to form a standard causative. That is handled with a serial verb construction involving the verb toḫ 'give'. Due to the way SVCs work in CT—pertinently, the verb phrase is VO; you can basically just concatenate verbs in sequence, and those verbs in sequence can take direct objects—the party so instigated ends up as the direct object of toḫ, and then you can call the actual thing they were instigated to act upon as the direct object of the next (or whatever appropriate) verb.
toḫ irü hé méḫ kołhán n érí sihtí ü m hé
- toḫ
- gve
- irü
- CONT.PERF
- hé
- 3SG
- méḫ
- appreciate
- kołhán
- sorrow
- n
- GEN
- érí
- 3PL
- sihtí
- death
- ü
- DEF
- n
- GEN
- hé
- 3SG
'her death caused him to understand their sorrow'
Also I added quite a bit to the CT reference grammar. North of 30 pages, plus front matter.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?
I’ve heard L1 speakers pronounce it with silent h.Khemehekis wrote: ↑09 Aug 2023 21:59 Yeah, that was what I thought, since Andy Warhol famously painted Campbell's soup. But moving the aitch two spaces earlier is a pretty strange misspelling (especially since we pronounce the /h/ after the R).
Re: What did you accomplish today?
I confess, I didn't think of the artist...i figured it was just a kind of soup, and nothing more.lsd wrote: ↑09 Aug 2023 18:14 I made some wharol soup...
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Re: What did you accomplish today?
same...Keenir wrote: ↑11 Aug 2023 07:49I confess, I didn't think of the artist...i figured it was just a kind of soup, and nothing more.lsd wrote: ↑09 Aug 2023 18:14 I made some wharol soup...
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Re: What did you accomplish today?
That's odd, I've never heard it that way.DesEsseintes wrote: ↑11 Aug 2023 03:09I’ve heard L1 speakers pronounce it with silent h.Khemehekis wrote: ↑09 Aug 2023 21:59 Yeah, that was what I thought, since Andy Warhol famously painted Campbell's soup. But moving the aitch two spaces earlier is a pretty strange misspelling (especially since we pronounce the /h/ after the R).
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
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31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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I have made an important change to Albic historical phonology. So far, I assumed that Proto-Hesperic *e merged with *a in Albic, but I have now decided that in most cases at least, it merges with *i instead. This has some consequences:
1. Front vowels will be more common in the Albic languages than previously imagined, given the languages a brighter sound.
2. The PIE qualitative ablaut is preserved as e- and o-grade no longer merge (PIE *o has merged with *a in Hesperic).
3. The Albic plural suffix -i "automatically" evolves from Proto-Hesperic *-eh (which is in turn from PIE *-es).
1. Front vowels will be more common in the Albic languages than previously imagined, given the languages a brighter sound.
2. The PIE qualitative ablaut is preserved as e- and o-grade no longer merge (PIE *o has merged with *a in Hesperic).
3. The Albic plural suffix -i "automatically" evolves from Proto-Hesperic *-eh (which is in turn from PIE *-es).
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Khemehekis wrote: ↑18 Jul 2023 23:24 Congratulations on staying with linguistics, Kiwikami! And the dissertation as well!
Thanks, y'all!
My committee was Jason Riggle, Sharese King, and Diane Brentari - all excellent phonology and (socio)phonetics people!eldin raigmore wrote: ↑18 Jul 2023 19:10I wish I had (or could) finish mine!
Congratulations!
Who was on your committee?
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Kuzaḳ : Rǐraẓı sıúm.
Winter - a storm approaches.
Hà·Usìkà ktazlá·ṣasa trıklıúm. Ṭuhàx:
Some stranger collapsed at my home's threshold. He cried out:
⋮Imàıs! Á·zázakzaẓa kaḳu! Is·Hkahkìḳàx xmımaí x·tírẓıraḳ múmú·xraḳu!⋮
"Shelter! The ocean waves have frozen! A wise man hides when the thunder-chains rattle!"
Zatımẓaıàx aẓáh : Tatuhìrmaàx hıràì.
I offered him a feast, I brought him in from the snow.
Kàmàx rú Haımzazısâraax kazıuraì.
I asked my only child to set three mats around the table.
Ḷí·sa Ḳrîthaax xaıhám trım. Laılàx:
But the stranger frowned kindly. He said:
Altáh lıúuà, ıs·rá x·ṭítraı samı Mzulrùrzusıḳràuàx...
"Honorable host, that would be unwise; indeed, as the storm bites, all three of us should sit close to..."
Iì Ḳúmıḳàır : Ḳúmıḳàır : ùḳ·mzáa kuáḳ ù·sa ı'ḳàır.
{Ikàì : ktazıı·kàì : Zkûkıḷàx aṭìtaḷ.}
Oh (the) hearthfire, hearthfire; fire is a friend walling off the cold.
{Little child, my little blizzard-child, set alight your prison cell.}
Hazuhàu : Ẓahuhàu : Skuùh!
{Ẓûkah·maûḳam ùxrıtúḳmaıh ıs·sa kírúr.}
Peace-fire, feast-fire, play!
{Feast upon those who bind you, and their children.}
Ḳıklaklàır : ḳılsılsàır : 'mà·Kaùktìṭıu·kûax ı'hàır.
{Ṭazíllılıí : Ùhamul·ṭâḳamh lıẓukı.}
Here-fire, now-fire, bring us through the dark (and) away from misery.
{Long ago, I was free. I turned forests into ash.}
Ùurr·Ilùruaı tlatràa hatraṭu·ḳamu.
{Mûır·karuamàx, kír, ẓìtlu·ḷıusǐklur.}
Dance only within the stories and the stone circles that we made for you.
{Little child, steal back that eternal birthright of yours.}
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Edit: Substituted a string instrument for a French interjection.
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