Sancta Hildegardis ora pro nobis

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Sancta Hildegardis ora pro nobis

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In honour of today being 17 September, the feast of saint Hildegard of Bingen, the patron saint of conlanging, here's yet another sentence to translate:

:eng: Saint Hildegard, teacher and abbess, pray for us. Amen.

:lat: Sancta Hildegardis doctor magistra ora pro nobis. Amen.

:con: Rireinutire

Hiroteñaroto-rayukave' to herenari to sehohase ta meno semi mipeka': sumuyaka':
/ˈhiɹoteŋɑɹotoˌɹɑjuˌkɑveʔ to ˈheɹenɑɹi to ˈsehoˌhɑse tɑ ˈmeno ˈsemi ˈmipekɑʔ || ˈsumuˌjɑkɑʔ/
Hiroteñaroto-rayukave-' to herenari to sehohase ta me-no semi mipe-ka-' || sumu-ya-ka-' ||
Hiroteñaroto-saint-VOC and teacher.NOM and abbess.NOM 2S.NOM 1P-GEN for pray-PRS-IMP || auspicious-be-PRS-IMP ||
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(first of the past conlangers, that one whose word please cleaning us...)

today's the day...
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You both beat me to it!
I hope everyone had a good St. Hildegard’s Day yesterday!
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A few days late, but hopefully Hildegard listens to supplicants year-round.

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Written standard
Sainte Hildegarda, mais̄tressa e abavessa, praiyé pa neu. Amen.
saint-F Hildegard | teacher and abbess | pray-IMP.2.FORM for 1P.DSJ | amen
Saint Hildegard, teacher and abbess, pray for us. Amen.

Moûtiers dialect transcription
Sintch Hildegarda, mettrésa y abavésa, priyé pa neu. Amēn.
[sɛ̃n.t͡ʃil.dəˈgɑʁ.da | mɛˈtʁe.sa ja.baˈve.sa pʁiˈje paˈnø | aˈmɛn]



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I went with mais̄tressa to translate "teacher." The more usual translations in Silvish specifically relate to teaching as a profession, and I get the sense that the word has a broader meaning in this sentence, closer to "guide."

Like French, Silvish has h aspiré (or h aspirau [ˈaθ a.spiˈʁo], as the Silvish call it), which, generally speaking, blocks vowel elision and liaison. But this translation showed me that it can behave a bit differently with a certain set of Silvish words. When a word with h aspirau is preceded by a word that ends in /e/, the /e/ changes to a yod. In dialects like that of Moûtiers, this can palatalize the preceding consonant. Compare the three saint names below, the first with h aspirau, the second without, and the third with an initial consonant.

Sainte Hildegarda
Sintch Hildegarda

[sɛ̃n.t͡ʃil.dəˈgɑʁ.da]
Saint Hildegard

Saint' Ursula
Sint' Ursula

[sɛ̃n.tyˈsy.la]
Saint Ursula

Sainte Monika
Sinte M'n̄ika

[sɛ̃n.temˈŋi.ka]
Saint Monica
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eldin raigmore wrote: 18 Sep 2024 06:23 You both beat me to it!
I hope everyone had a good St. Hildegard’s Day yesterday!

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G bc jkl GJqn snp b rJhg rhJsfbb rLPqqN.
G   bc   jk-l     GJ-qn	 snp  b	 rJh-g	   rhJsfb-b   rLPq-qN
IMP upon little-1 make-2 holy of throat-3I reflect-NA light-3M
Reflect The Light upon us little ones, o holy maker of languages. 

Believe it or not I don't have a Commonthroat word for "to pray" yet. Translating the name Hildegard would also be difficult. Wiktionary says the etymology is proto Germanic *hildiz (battle) + *gardaz (enclosure) i.e. "battle-protector", so just like some yinrih names don't make sense culturally in English ("Ringlight" for example) I'll have to settle for an epithet.
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:con: Ärque

Oehildengardusantu elva äyak żovedunkuö.
[ˈo͡ehiɫʷdeˌᵑɡaɾduˌsaⁿtu ˈeɫʷβa æˈjak ˈʐoβeduˌᵑkʷø]
oe-hildengardu=santu elva äya=k ż-ove-d-unkuö
VOC-Hildegard=saint teacher abbot=CONJ IMP.do.SG-prayer-IMP-1PL.OBL

"Saint Hildegard, teacher and abbess, pray for us."

Imperatives are some of the rare words which begin with a consonant in Ärque. All noun roots are of the form V(C)CV, and verbs outside of the imperative take a single-vowel prefix to mark mood.

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:con: Kankonian:

Zha Den Hildegard zash uigard mui inhareta, destiet ad wir. Lakhen.
VOC saint Hildegard APPOS teacher and abbess pray-IMPRTV for 1p. amen
Saint Hildegard, teacher and abbess, pray for us. Amen.

Den (saint) is the only title in Kankonian that doesn't require the appositive marker zash between honorific and name.

Also, I noticed Hildegard ends like uigard. A cool coincidence.
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:con: Definitely not a cringe Gaelicised Romlang

Saènde Hildegarde, majestresse i abhadesse, preche por noias. Èamen.
/ˈsɛɲdʒə ɪdʒəˈɟaʁdʒə, mɐdʒəʃˈtɾeʃə ɪ ɐˈdʒeʃə, ˈpɾeɟə pʊʁ ˈnis. ˈɛməɲ/
"Saint Hildegard, teacher and abbess, pray for us. Amen."
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