The Lonely Galaxy Megathread (comments encouraged)

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Re: The Lonely Galaxy Megathread (comments encouraged)

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Arayaz wrote: 13 Dec 2023 03:03 Below = infrared or ultraviolet?
Generally when talking about the EM spectrum, at least in ham circles, "below" means longer wavelength, lower frequency. "Above" means shorter wavelength, higher frequency. In this case the "standard safety color" for the Allied Worlds is smack in the middle of the terahertz range, which is above microwaves but below infrared.

My original idea was that the yinrih could perceive all non-ionizing radiation from just above direct current all the way up to the high end of soft UV rays. Now I'm thinking that's too Mary-Sue-ish (if there is such a word), and I might narrow that down to wavelengths shorter than the aperture of their eyelids, so a little over a centimeter, or however big dog eyes are. The reason for this is that if you have light incident on a grill with openings of X diameter, wavelengths longer than X will not pass through. That's why microwave oven windows have a metal mesh. The waves are about 13 cm long, and the holes in the mesh are much smaller than that, so it lets visible light through but blocks the microwaves. In the yihnrih's case, the diameter of their open eyelids will dictate what wavelengths can fall on the nantenna patches that serve as their eyes.

Even this is a bit of a handwave, as the nantennas covering these eye patches should only efficiently couple with wavelengths about equal to four times their length. Each nantenna is as a quarter-wave dipole sitting on a shared ground plane. These nantennas would presumably be optimized to receive the peak wavelength radiated by Focus after passing through Yih's atmosphere. Since yih is more-or-less Earth-like, that would mean a wavelength of about 555 nanometers. The effective passband would be wider, of course, with the convention for measuring the bandwidth of a passband being when the signal drops 3 dB below the maximum.

This isn't even getting into the fact that I'm not sure if an array of nanoantennas like this could form an image. I'm sort of treating it like a really dense compound eye or a bundle of very very fine optical fibers.

While I'm on this ocular tangent, yinrih think human eyes are gross--slimy goo-filled orbs covered in mucus sliding around in our skulls. But we are the first and only other sophonts they've found after nearly 100 millennia of searching, so their joy at finally being able to fulfill the Great Commandment helps them power through the initial revulsion. There's lots of other stuff they find off-putting about us, like our lack of fur, our larger size, and the smell of our sweat. Humans, however, think yinrih are adorable li'l monkey foxes.
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Responding to something a little farther up-thread:
lurker wrote:Anyway, here are some possible solutions:

1. If the community is small enough, have everyone synchronize their torpor cycles. One of the defining factors of what makes a cohesive yinrih community might be synchronized torpor cycles, but adjacent communities may not be in sync with each other.

2. There are four 3-day "weekends" per 12-day week. When attending a school or getting a job, you pick one of these 4 slots as your individual weekend. You go into torpor for the first day and spend the remaining two days doing regular weekend stuff. Individual families might have synchronized cycles even if the larger community doesn't. Pious yinrih would probably use one of these days to attend their weekly liturgy.

3. Speaking of liturgies, perhaps in communities that are both small and pious you might have the whole community synched to the cleric's torpor cycle so everyone can attend the same liturgy. This would make the lighthouse the center of community activity.
I think that a combination of these might work very well. In terms of Option 1, a community or group (family, workplace) could tend to find their torpor cycles synchronizing naturally with one another. If a member of the group has a hard time synchronizing, that might be seen as a sign that they don't really "fit in" with the group. I came across a similar idea in another online science fiction setting, but I don't recall which one for certain off the top of my head.

(EDIT: It was from the RPG setting Big Ideas, Grand Vision by Anders Sandberg, specifically with regard to one of his extraterrestrial species, the Trahans.)

At the same time, there are functions for which constant attention and monitoring may be required or desired - life support, for instance. (As a real-world example, I work at a plant that normally runs 24 hours a day, seven days a week, with day and night shifts to cover production.) In this case, planning for rotating torpor periods would be necessary. Either way, given the yinrih's technological level, I would assume that the torpor period can be adjusted by medical means (for example) if needed.

I am impressed by the helmet design (and the amount of thought that you have put into the yinrih more generally). Looking forward to more!
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I Choose You... For Dinner!

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There is an entire clade of small creatures filling rodent-like niches that have evolved the ability to store an electric charge in capacitor-like organs below their eyes. They can discharge these organs into any would-be predator attempting to eat them. These critters are called `sdFrdFg`, which (very loosely) translates to "zap rats". Zap rats have even developed aposematic coloration, bearing mostly bright yellow fur with white, black, red, or blue accents being present in varying degrees depending on species. Unfortunately for the zap rats, the yinrih LOVE the mild shock they get from eating them. It's like sticking a 9-volt battery on your tongue. They're either eaten live or, if you don't want to risk them going off in your gut instead of your mouth, you can quickly kill them by holding the animal between your inner and outer thumb and puncturing their dorsal nerve cord with your writing claw.

There are frequent population booms, necessitating regular cullings, with hunting being the preferred method. The zap rats' bright yellow fur makes them trivial to spot.
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lurker wrote: 13 Dec 2023 16:59 There are frequent population booms, necessitating regular cullings, with hunting being the preferred method. The zap rats' bright yellow fur makes them trivial to spot.
Why would they evolve to be easy to spot? I suppose it would be like poison dart frogs? But depending how long the yinrih have been eating them, I'd think they'd lose that coloration. Or be hunted to extinction. At the very least, some species would have their danger signaling optional. I doubt the rodent-like creatures are apex predators ─ and if they aren't apex predators, there will always be something hunting them. Perhaps they could just be R-selected enough to survive.
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Arayaz wrote: 13 Dec 2023 17:09 Why would they evolve to be easy to spot? I suppose it would be like poison dart frogs? But depending how long the yinrih have been eating them, I'd think they'd lose that coloration. Or be hunted to extinction. At the very least, some species would have their danger signaling optional. I doubt the rodent-like creatures are apex predators ─ and if they aren't apex predators, there will always be something hunting them. Perhaps they could just be R-selected enough to survive.
Warning Coloration is why they have brightly colored fur, which as you mention is the same reason why poison dart frogs are brightly colored. They do also reproduce very quickly, as you suggest. which is why overpopulation becomes a problem. Population booms are either due to a glut of the vegetation they eat, the migratory pattern of one of their few natural predators. Zap rats' native range never overlapped with that of the proto-sapient yinrih. It's possible the present-day tree-dwellers (the yinrih's closest animal relative) also enjoy eating zap rats, but since their ranges don't overlap either it's not an issue. Most animals don't enjoy getting shocked, so the warning coloration works.
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lurker wrote: 13 Dec 2023 18:12
Arayaz wrote: 13 Dec 2023 17:09 Why would they evolve to be easy to spot? I suppose it would be like poison dart frogs? But depending how long the yinrih have been eating them, I'd think they'd lose that coloration. Or be hunted to extinction. At the very least, some species would have their danger signaling optional. I doubt the rodent-like creatures are apex predators ─ and if they aren't apex predators, there will always be something hunting them. Perhaps they could just be R-selected enough to survive.
Warning Coloration is why they have brightly colored fur, which as you mention is the same reason why poison dart frogs are brightly colored. They do also reproduce very quickly, as you suggest. which is why overpopulation becomes a problem. Population booms are either due to a glut of the vegetation they eat, the migratory pattern of one of their few natural predators. Zap rats' native range never overlapped with that of the proto-sapient yinrih. It's possible the present-day tree-dwellers (the yinrih's closest animal relative) also enjoy eating zap rats, but since their ranges don't overlap either it's not an issue. Most animals don't enjoy getting shocked, so the warning coloration works.
I suspected it was warning coloration. All right, then, if their native ranges didn't overlap it should all be fine.
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Retribution Field Generator

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Bit of a lazy one today. This is the retribution field generator featured in one of my stories. When activated, the cube creates a force field that absorbs the kinetic energy of incoming projectiles. Then it unleashes that energy back at the attacker. Honestly it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I was originally going to explain it as a cultural quirk stemming form the Bright Way's just war doctrines, a weirdly quantitatively literal interpretation of the Lex Talionis, where you could only apply the exact same force as was used against you. But for now it only exists due to the rule of cool.

The dials cut into the corners are for setting various parameters of the field like diameter and expected energy load. The gray surface is a biometric ink reader. The device is keyed to a specific user for safety. Not only does it require that person's ink, you need to trace the correct pattern in order to prime the device.

While they're usually pretty reliable, they do have a shelf life. The one used as in impromptu storm shelter didn't activate right away because it had been in storage for over 250 years.

It also makes a surprisingly satisfying fidget toy.
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Mule Punch

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The great thing about having hands for feet is that you can punch someone and kick them at the same time.
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No deep lore here. Yinrih can mule kick, or is it mule punch?
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I'm starting to finalize the look of their back legs. I think a more plantigrade stance makes sense. It makes them less canine but I think makes it more viable for them to use their rear paws for grasping.
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A helmet used with yinrih powered armor.
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Powered Armor Paw Gauntlet

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This is a front paw gauntlet used in yinrih powered armor, with the palm facing up. The purple pads on the digits and palm are force projectors (Commonthroat name TBD). They use Science™ to exert force at a distance. They can also generate a negative force normal to the surface they're pressed against to allow the wearer to climb smooth walls and ceilings.

By thrusting the palm forward, a force extends outward, acting as a long-distance punch. It may be able to be used like the Mage Hand spell from D&D, allowing object manipulation over short distances.

One technique is to cup the two front paws together before thrusting the forelimbs forward. This overloads the two projectors, causing them to generate a large ball of concussive force that is launched forward at high velocity. This is frowned upon because it burns out the projectors very quickly. This little trick is inspired by the Kamehameha from DBZ, as in there are actual yinrih weeaboos who thought the move looked cool and wanted to see if they could pull it off with force projectors. Sometimes when in zero gravity they'll even use all four paws to do it. The other reason it's frowned upon is that it has some serious kickback. Since the person performing the move is reared up on their hind feet, it almost always results in them losing their balance or even flying across the room.

The flexible material that the gauntlet is made of is called Pseudosinew (Commonthroat name also TBD). It's a fine mesh of artificial musculature. It can enhance dexterity and strength passively to some degree. When powered it can do that even better, as well as block small non-relativistic projectiles by reflexively tensing up when struck, sort of like a "non Neutonian solid".
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Arayaz wrote: 13 Dec 2023 03:03 Below = infrared or ultraviolet?
“Infra” is related to “inferior” and “infimum”.
Infra ~=~ Low
Inferior ~=~ Lower than
Infimum ~=~ the Lowest

“Ultra” is related to “ulterior” and “ultimatum” (or “ultimus”)
Ultra ~=~ Beyond
Ulterior ~=~ further Beyond
Ultimatum ~=~ furthest Beyond; the thing Beyond which is nothing else.

….

So ultraviolet means “beyond violet”,
and infrared means “lower than red”.

….
Opposites:
Infra vs Supra; Inferior vs Superior; Infimum vs Supremum.
Ultra vs Citra (this side of); Ulterior vs Citerior (nearer); Ultimate vs Citimus (nearest).

See https://www.orbilat.com/Languages/Lati ... tive.html
and scroll down to the part about “adjectives derived from prepositions”
(which is itself part of “adjectives with only comparatives and superlatives”, i.e. adjectives whose positive degree of comparison either does not exist in Latin or is not an adjective in Latin)
to see how erroneous my statements just were!
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Carrying the Tail

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From left to right, top to bottom:

The Dinosaur
The Husky
The Monkey
The Chameleon

How the tail is carried while walking might depend on culture and personal preference, or one style could be normal across the species. The "dinosaur" style at top left would probably be a rather rude way of walking when in a crowd since it takes up so much more room than the other stances. Yinrih may feel the same about people who do that as humans do about people who walk reeeealy sloooowly down the middle of the sidewalk, or maybe that's just me.

However the tail is carried while walking forward, it's normal for yinrih to sweep the tail across the ground from side to side like a white cane while walking backward to avoid tripping or treading on anything.
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The Beginning of The Bright Way

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There was a period of natural religion prior to the Theophany that may have even preceded writing (akin to the ritual burials of the neanderthals). It is here that the most fundamental rites are established: a female shaman keeping the tribal fire lit and performing primitive medicine as well as the use of the bones of the dead as architectural adornment. After the Theophany comes the founding of the Bright Way proper, where the shamanate organizes into the first true clergy. As the yinrih's medical knowledge grows, it becomes necessary to split the two primary roles of the old shamans into cleric and healer.

The Theophany catalyzes the yinrih's technological development. They know there are other sophonts among the stars, but still don't know what the stars even are. While there is much discovery independent of the Bright Way, The Bright Way is responsible for a great many technological and social developments in its attempt to fulfill the Great Commandment. After the secularization of yinrih society, Attempts are made by historical revisionists to minimize their cultural and technical contributions.

Meanwhile, the shaman's role of keeping the tribe's fire lit keeps pace with the yinrih's progress up the tech tree. As agriculture and cities develop, a central lighthouse is established in each settlement. The lighthouse, decorated with the bones of the dearly departed, serves as a fane dedicated to the Creator who revealed itself to the yinrih in the Theophany. Inside the lighthouse is a central hearth tended by the cleric, from which the individual households feed their home fires. When electricity is discovered, clerics become the first engineers maintaining electrical infrastructure. When the true nature of stars as sustained fusion reactions is discovered, attempts are made to replicate these icons of The Light on a smaller scale for liturgical purposes. This is the origin of the fusion reactor, or Star Hearth. The atomic age is birthed not by war, but by faith.
I still have to detail how the clergy fall into corruption. I'm thinking it has to do with their control of electrical infrastructure. One of the themes that has emerged in this project is the reversal of typical religion tropes you see in speculative fiction. So instead of religion being portrayed an impediment to technological development, it's a catalyst for it. Instead of the priestly class using their superior knowledge to gull the superstitious masses into submission, it's used to maintain a certain standard of living, although as often as not with a hefty tithe to keep the lights on. Those reactors don't run themselves, after all.
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This is the fruit of the steadtree, a species of tree native to the equatorial rain forest on Yih. It is this tree that the yinrih evolved to dwell in, and this fruit co-evolved alongside the yinrih's nonsapient ancestors in order to use the yinrih as seed dispersers. It's about the size of an apple, and Its flavor is uniquely adapted to the yinrih's poor sense of taste. It is mildly sweet but has a very, very strong sour flavor. Humans liken it to Warhead candies. The skin is deep bluish purple with a vivid violet sheen, and it's flesh is an extremely saturated shade of blue.

The fruit plays an important part in the Bright Way. While it isn't used in the liturgy itself, it is distributed afterward to visitors, irrespective of creed, in a manner similar to Antidoron.

Other parts of the steadtree are used in various rites. In particular, the large, broad leaves are used for recording scripture. One of a cleric's duties during her formation is to copy scriptural passages onto steadtree leaves using her own ink. These leaves were the object of the yinrih's scent marking behavior, and thus ultimately their first writing medium.

Young branches are distributed to the faithful during the liturgy celebrating the kindling of the Fire of Understanding. They're supposed to serve as a reminder of the yinrih's origins, but they're as often as not wielded by pups as instruments of annoyance against their litter mates.
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still not sure about their back legs. This pose definitely puts the "monkey" in "monkey fox".
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This is an amnion, or suspension capsule. This is how yinrih missionaries survive interstellar voyages going slower than light. Womb ships are only able to reach about 0.1c. Since Focus and Sol are about 25 light-years apart, it took the Dewfall about 250 years to get to Earth.

These amnions are why missionary vessels are called womb ships. The interior is lined with these suspension capsules, making it look like a yinrih womb-nest.

The amnion itself is just a gimbaled chaimber attached to the interior wall of the ship. The yellow fluid inside is where the magic happens. It's called neurogel. Neurogel does a few things: It holds dissolved oxygen better than just about anything, so it can be used as a ventilation medium. It provides a cushion against high G-forces, it serves as an interface between the brain and the ship's electronics without any invasive implants, and it halts metabolism while keeping the brain oxygenated. Yinrih are incapable of fully losing consciousness, so they can't sleep away the journey. Instead, the neurogel speeds up their time perception so things seem to happen quicker.

While in suspension, the brain is active but the hormones produced by the body are not present. The mind is effectively floating in cyberspace, a being of pure intellect unhindered by animal instinct or emotion. Amnions have few legitimate uses outside of interstellar travel. For some the temptation is strong to simply remain eternally suspended in this solipsistic bubble, and recreational suspension is both widespread and a serious social problem.
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Re: The Lonely Galaxy Megathread (comments encouraged)

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So it's the Winter solstice. Seeing as how this is supposed to be one of the high holy days in The Bright Way, I should probably flesh it out a bit.

The Seasonal Feasts are meant to be considered together, as though they are in fact a single discontiguous celebration. They are preceded by a week (12-day period) of fasting and prayer.

The themes present in the celebration include the passage of time, the nature of the universe as a a work wrought by the Creator, and the yinrih's place within that creation, infinitessimal in scale but infinitely beloved. Light, is of course a huge part of the Bright Way generally, but it is given special focus on the seasonal feasts. Winter is a time both for mourning its absence and looking forward to its return.

Each feast also focuses on a different stage of the yinrih's life cycle, with winter devoted to death, naturally enough. This is the time when the bones decorating the facade and interior of the lighthouse are cleaned and a meticulous inventory taken. Every bone is associated with its owner, and care is taken to avoid desecration of the remains, intentional or accidental.

There is a tradition of giving gifts on this feast, although the gifts are meant to be experiential rather than material--things like food, perfumes, or even the performance of a piece of music or telling of a story. The transient nature of these experiences is meant to serve as a momento mori.

The appropriate seasonal greeting is "Take heart, for the days grow longer."
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No, your drawing skills aren't really that bad. Sure, there are better drawings around, but yours are OK for me.
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HUD Specs and Earpiece

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Here's some HUD specs and an earpiece for audio output. The HUD specs use a minimal, mostly text-based, UI. This is due to the very low data rate required by FTL communication. All the microelectronics sit in the muzzle bridge.

The earpiece may use bone conduction since it's hard to get passive acoustic isolation with all that fur in the way.
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