What did you accomplish today?

[Khemehekis]

With "ditchdigger", I am exactly one quarter of the way through the IGCE list. I have 94,740 words, the last being adnufim (to disunite). 94,740 minus 87,780 equals 6,960. 6,960 quadrupled is 27,840. So I'll most likely finish the IGCE task with 115K-116K Kankonian words.

[Nel Fie]

I don't feel like writing too much, but I've still been implementing and debugging various features in my sound changer - and as far as I can tell I managed to implement basic "syllable block"-based replacement (a syllable block being represented as "<...>" in my SCA's notation).

For example, the following rule produces the results below:

<s> → {zir} / _t

as.ta > zir.ta
sal.ta > zir.ta
tsi.tok > zir.tok
bi.sa.ti > bi.zir.ti
sal.ma > sal.ma

More testing is due, but it's looking good.

[Reyzadren]

Congratulations! Griushkoent is in the exclusive club of conlangs that were started in the nineties and still kicking. Kankonian, Shaleyan, Itlani, Arka, Brithenig, Cad'inor, Tceqli, Denden, Lingua Franca Nova, Europanto, Gua/spi, Lrahran, Okuna, Slovio, Unish, Voksigid, Thosk, Miapimoquitch, Almaqerin, Aingeljã, Draseleq, Ehmay Ghee Chah, AllNoun, gjâ-zym-byn, Ilish, Kēlen, Rokbeigalmki, Teonaht, Tepa, Vorlin.

Of course you just have the list of those conlangs right on your fingertips or mind

Congratulations!

Excellence! kudos and congratulations

Congratulations! My Albic project started 24 years ago, but as something very different from what it is now.

Wow, I thought that your conlang was older irl than mine

[Khemehekis]

Congratulations! Griushkoent is in the exclusive club of conlangs that were started in the nineties and still kicking. Kankonian, Shaleyan, Itlani, Arka, Brithenig, Cad'inor, Tceqli, Denden, Lingua Franca Nova, Europanto, Gua/spi, Lrahran, Okuna, Slovio, Unish, Voksigid, Thosk, Miapimoquitch, Almaqerin, Aingeljã, Draseleq, Ehmay Ghee Chah, AllNoun, gjâ-zym-byn, Ilish, Kēlen, Rokbeigalmki, Teonaht, Tepa, Vorlin.

Of course you just have the list of those conlangs right on your fingetips or mind

I resorted to that conlang database; otherwise I wouldn't have known that Aingeljã or Slovio were nineties conlangs.

Also, I notice that Teonaht was listed as a nineties conlang in the database. But now that I think of it, didn't Sally Caves start Teonaht in her Boomer childhood?

[Knox Adjacent]

Figured out how the large associated motion paradigms will differ between at least two projects. (Coming soon, one of them)

[Nel Fie]

After implementing replacement of syllable blocks in my sound changer, I moved on to unordered search blocks - and with a minor revision, they seem to work right off the bat, without any special conditions in the replacement mechanisms. That was kind of unexpected:

(As a reminder, "unordered search block" is my term for a notation that means "if this/these segment(s) are found at any point in this location, the search is valid". The example below uses "|s|", which basically means "if there is an /s/ at any point in this location, the rule applies")

|s| → {zir} / _t
pisat > zirt

|s| → {zir} / p_
pisat > pzirat

|s| → {zir} / p_t
pisat > pzirt

One minor thought, however: should the second rule produce /pzir/ instead of /pzirat/? Or something else? Or is it fine like this?

[Omzinesý]

I continued my Dlor Grammar.

Today I wrote two sections:
- "Formal morphology" with subsections "Definition of word" and "Word patterns and segmenting"
- "Word classes"

Around 1.5 pages

[lsd]

I found one name for Italy and Pizza...

( food in the shape of disc of redness and whiteness and color of herb of the country of food in the shape of disc of redness and whiteness and color of herb of the country offood in the shape of disc of redness and whiteness and color of herb of the country offood in the shape of disc of redness and whiteness and color of herb of the country offood in the shape of disc of redness and whiteness and color of herb of the country offood in the shape of disc of redness and whiteness and color of herb of the country offood in the shape of disc of redness and whiteness and color of herb of the country offood in the shape of disc of redness and whiteness and color of herb of the country of...)

3SDL loves epanadiplosis

[Khemehekis]

A few minutes ago, I finished going through the D-words on my IGCE list. From dabang (dabang) to dzhong (dzong) -- wow, they're both borrowings! -- I got 1,330 new words, going up from a lexicon of 93,896 to a lexicon of 95,226.

I am done with the first four letters of the English alphabet.

[WeepingElf]

I found one name for Italy and Pizza...

( food in the shape of disc of redness and whiteness and color of herb of the country of food in the shape of disc of redness and whiteness and color of herb of the country offood in the shape of disc of redness and whiteness and color of herb of the country offood in the shape of disc of redness and whiteness and color of herb of the country offood in the shape of disc of redness and whiteness and color of herb of the country offood in the shape of disc of redness and whiteness and color of herb of the country offood in the shape of disc of redness and whiteness and color of herb of the country offood in the shape of disc of redness and whiteness and color of herb of the country of...)

3SDL loves epanadiplosis

[Nel Fie]

My sound changer is inching closer to become usable, and that has been rather exciting. It's a bit like watching your baby speak its first words, in a way.

But a specific mechanism I've been looking forward to and which I've been implementing is what I call "layer references". To explain: I started working on my sound changer because I wanted a way to apply sound changes to languages with a lot of overlapping elements, like sign languages; or to apply changes to multimodal conlangs which mix different transcription systems, (e.g. IPA, SLIPA, SignWriting, etc...).
My sound changer implements this functionality through what I termed "phonological layers". Every word, change, etc... can have any number of independent layers, which can use different transcription systems and are operated on separately. However, there are situations where you might want a rule to apply to one layer only if something specific is happening in another layer. These are "layer references".

And of course, the system allows plain text as well and can be hijacked for other purposes, such as labelling words with glosses or translations in a separate layer. To illustrate with the following words, where brackets delimit all the layers of a word:

[bat
VERB]
[buut
NOUN]
[sibaet
VERB]
[beit
VERB]

... with the following rule, where references are marked in parentheses. The number before the reference marks the index of the layer starting at 0, e.g. in the first word of the list above, "bat" is on layer 0, "VERB" is on layer 1:

b → v / (1:NOUN)

... spits out the following result:

[bat
VERB]
[vuut
NOUN]
[sibaet
VERB]
[beit
VERB]

In itself, it's not very complicated, but actually reaching this stage after accomplishing all the work required to correctly apply complex sound changes within actual transcription systems is very satisfying.

[Creyeditor]

But a specific mechanism I've been looking forward to and which I've been implementing is what I call "layer references". To explain: I started working on my sound changer because I wanted a way to apply sound changes to languages with a lot of overlapping elements, like sign languages; or to apply changes to multimodal conlangs which mix different transcription systems, (e.g. IPA, SLIPA, SignWriting, etc...).
[...]

Did you just reinvent autosegmental tiers?

[Nel Fie]

Did you just reinvent autosegmental tiers?

I guess I did, ha ha! I would have used the term, if I had known about it.

But it's perhaps better I didn't. As the example illustrates, layers are now adaptable beyond the realm of phonology. In fact, you could use them to apply purely non-phonological changes, like grammaticalisations! Although this is something I'll move into its own specialised mechanism further down the line.

In addition, layers need not represent any kind of linguistic truth or analysis, but merely provide greater freedom in processing. That is to say, the material being handled may be completely linear from a linguistic point of view, but the user might separate it across layers because they find it appropriate to their needs. In that sense, it is perhaps different from autosegmental tiers, if the latter is a strictly linguistic concept.

[zyma]

I'd hesitate to call this an "accomplishment", but according to my user profile, I apparently created this account and joined the CBB at 5:09pm (UTC−04:00) on July 12th, 2013 - exactly 10 years ago.

Also, it looks like this is my 10000th post.

I've realized that today is the 11th anniversary of when I joined the board. It's hard to believe it's been that long.

This is my 10700th post, apparently.

[Khemehekis]

Just finished the E-words on the IGCE list for Kankonian. Starting with Iling (Ealing), word #95,227 (and offset with Zughlia, a district of Kankonia's capital Khoikal) and ending with Dawanorbz (Dawanorbs), a city on Kankonia's island of Koraless, word #96,083 (to offset Ezo), I got 857 new words doing the E's.

On the way, I notched word #96,000: halusrivas, meaning "to exsanguinate, to bleed white; exsanguination"). It comes from the prefix hal-, meaning "all", the prefix us-, indicating release of a bodily function (cf. khuphus, feces -> uskhuphus, to defecate), and the word rivas, meaning "blood".

[Nel Fie]

I've realized that today is the 11th anniversary of when I joined the board. It's hard to believe it's been that long.

This is my 10700th post, apparently.

Congratulations!

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For my part, I've just finished developing my sound changer's mechanism for handling rules that apply to raw text, rather than transcription systems. Specifically, it can now recognize basic case distinctions and insert them into an environment. For example, the rule:

VERB,ADJ → NOUN / PoS:_

... will accurately produce the following changes:

PoS:VERB > PoS:NOUN
PoS:ADJ > PoS:NOUN

Which all sounds very basic, but I hadn't implemented it yet, and it needed doing.

[lurker]

I've come up with a surprisingly productive derivational suffix, -bfr /short rising strengthening whine, chuff/ which indicates a software program or service characterized by the root. With it I can now translate the name of this forum into Commonthroat:

prrDBbfrp b GJrJhGHg

prrDBbf comes from pr rDB (to discuss) + -bfr. GJrJhGHg literally means the act of making languages.

[Khemehekis]

With "ditchdigger", I am exactly one quarter of the way through the IGCE list. I have 94,740 words, the last being adnufim (to disunite). 94,740 minus 87,780 equals 6,960. 6,960 quadrupled is 27,840. So I'll most likely finish the IGCE task with 115K-116K Kankonian words.

With "Frankenfish", I'm now exactly two-thirds of the way through the IGCE list. I have 96,801 words, the last being Frank (Frank; Frankish). 96,801 minus 87,780 equals 9,021. 9,021 tripled is 27,063. I estimate I will finish the IGCE task with 114K-115K Kankonian words.

[Khemehekis]

I just finished the F-words (from the IGCE list) in Kankonian. From word #96,083 (fa'afafine, a borrowing meaning . . . fa'afafine) to word #97,036 (Torghabrait, the name of a village in Durben created to offset "Fyvie"), I got 953 new words in my lexicon. On the way I passed the 97,000 mark with dyuvid, meaning "3'-end", made from the Ciladian roots dyu (three) and bhid (end). (In case you're wondering, that was one of a number of new words I needed to get a word for "furin", thkakh.)

[Nike_Noor]

Dragonese Numbers. Or rather, lack of.
No, that' s not right either. It's an Alphabetic numeral system that skips one specific consonant letter. AND it's over base-10

A dragon's claw has 4 fingers/talons/whatever you call it, but "B-ćó" (one-claw) is 20. B-ca (one-village) is 400. And I need some new, fitting names for 8000 and 160K (Am I nuts?)

-Your dragon system is a good idea. An open claw and a closed claw may be able to add to the meanings. Or by adding a body part. Like touching the tail to the claw may be able to expand the values. Such as adding a decimal point