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I recently learned two new-to-me English words;
misotheist
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dystheist.

A misotheist hates one or more gods; a dystheist believes some god(s) is(are) evil.

….

I am an atheist because I don’t want to be a misotheist nor a dystheist.
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I’ve now, just yesterday, learned two more new-to-me words;
autoandrophile and autogynophile.

I think, while the war in VietNam was ongoing and I was eligible to be drafted, I frequently had autogynophile thoughts; that is, I thought maybe I’d rather be a woman than a man.
This had nothing to do with sexual feeling. I just really didn’t want to get drafted.
And also, I was at the age when young men and almost-grown boys were under a great deal of pressure to excel at sports etc.
I didn’t.

While in nursery school and kindergarten and preschool and elementary school and primary school, whenever I role-played as a parent, I often acted more maternal than paternal.
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eldin raigmore wrote: 03 Aug 2024 00:20 I’ve now, just yesterday, learned two more new-to-me words;
autoandrophile and autogynophile.
I’m pretty sure autoandrophilia and autogynephilia, as concepts, are essentially obsolete. As hesitant as I am to cite Reddit on anything, this Reddit post (warning: contains sexual text [obviously]) explains it pretty neatly. At least, I think so — I’ve not historically been known for being correct in my claims, so anyone feel free to correct me on this.
eldin raigmore wrote: 03 Aug 2024 00:20 I think, while the war in VietNam was ongoing and I was eligible to be drafted, I frequently had autogynophile thoughts; that is, I thought maybe I’d rather be a woman than a man.
This had nothing to do with sexual feeling. I just really didn’t want to get drafted.
And also, I was at the age when young men and almost-grown boys were under a great deal of pressure to excel at sports etc.
I didn’t.

While in nursery school and kindergarten and preschool and elementary school and primary school, whenever I role-played as a parent, I often acted more maternal than paternal.
I’m probably biased, considering I’m a trans woman, but what you say here is at least somewhat consistent with being a trans woman — although if the thoughts only happened as a result of the threat of the draft, it may not be.
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Arayaz wrote: 03 Aug 2024 00:46 I’m pretty sure autoandrophilia and autogynephilia, as concepts, are essentially obsolete. As hesitant as I am to cite Reddit on anything, this Reddit post (warning: contains sexual text [obviously]) explains it pretty neatly. At least, I think so — I’ve not historically been known for being correct in my claims, so anyone feel free to correct me on this.


I got the impression, when I looked them up before I posted this, that neither the psychological nor medical nor sociological fields, nor the trans communities, considered these terms good ones. Their meanings are not well-enough defined: and other reasons not to adopt them.
So I just learned two new-to-me words that were already obsolete by the time I learned them!

[quote="you”]
I’m probably biased, considering I’m a trans woman, but what you say here is at least somewhat consistent with being a trans woman …[/quote]

I watched a YT video by a young T-woman who said (this will be a paraphrase, not a quote) that she hadn’t wanted to transition from M to F because of anything “libidinous”; she’d never had much libido as a man and didn’t have more as a woman. So, instead, escaping the pressures to conform to expected gender-“norms” (unless I’m mistakenly reading her mind) was more of a motive to transition, than anything having to do with sex.
I was thinking of that video when I posted this post.
So, if I have any right to have an opinion, I have heard someone else independently say something like what you just said, so I’d guess you are right.
“you” wrote: … although if the thoughts only happened as a result of the threat of the draft, it may not be.
I still don’t think those thoughts were really fantasizing about changing gender.
I never imagined undergoing a change; I never fantasized that I was a woman; I just thought I wouldn’t have some of the troubles I had, if I had been born female instead of male.

Globally there are now and have historically been many people of both (the main two) genders who “transitioned” (without benefit of gender-reassignment-surgery or HRT) to the other gender, either to escape danger, or for socioeconomic reasons.
Some “transitioned” M2F to escape the danger of war.
Some “transitioned” F2M to escape the danger of rape.
Some “transitioned” F2M to keep their families from losing their land.
And there are more.
And I don’t think they counted as Trans in our modern sense.
And maybe not autoandrophile nor autogynophile.

Thanks for your comment!
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I don't know if it's the very long association with 3SDeductiveLanguage(1Sense=1Sign=1Sound)
that makes me yawn when I come across a new word,
and find it perfectly dispensable,
or even toxic...
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I just learned the word "altisonant" from browsing a Medium.com article by a famous troll.

https://medium.com/@MoonMetropolis/i-am ... 10d37c47d3
This article is not about that case, which I already talked about in great detail in my 2018 public statement on Medium, “First Public Statement From Joshua Goldberg” (a lengthy essay — written, in my typical fashion, with a downright cringe-inducing level of turgid, altisonant sententiousness — which attracted very little attention, aside from the expected juvenile and moronic comments on alt-right cesspools like /r/drama).

Arayaz wrote: 03 Aug 2024 00:46
eldin raigmore wrote: I think, while the war in VietNam was ongoing and I was eligible to be drafted, I frequently had autogynophile thoughts; that is, I thought maybe I’d rather be a woman than a man.
This had nothing to do with sexual feeling. I just really didn’t want to get drafted.
And also, I was at the age when young men and almost-grown boys were under a great deal of pressure to excel at sports etc.
I didn’t.

While in nursery school and kindergarten and preschool and elementary school and primary school, whenever I role-played as a parent, I often acted more maternal than paternal.
I’m probably biased, considering I’m a trans woman, but what you say here is at least somewhat consistent with being a trans woman — although if the thoughts only happened as a result of the threat of the draft, it may not be.
When I was an elementary school child, I had thoughts that today would be called childhood gender dysphoria.

I would often say, "I'm not like other boys". More of my friends were girls than boys. I thought I was a freak, because I had a Y chromosome yet I didn't like Go-bots or Transformers, and wasn't good at sports, nor did I have an interest in sports.

In junior high, I discovered I was bisexual. I came out at 13 (I've told the story before).

Then came high school. You didn't have to play sports to be cool in high school (I'm a Millennial, not a Boomer like eldin). I was one of the Youth Culturalists. When my generation took over high school, most of us were either Youth Culturalists (the cool, counterculture kids (of various subcultures like skaters, hippies, emo kids, hip-hoppers, slackers, trendies, beatniks, goths, surfers, etc.) who did rebellious things like drinking, smoking weed, growing facial hair/long hair, wearing black T-shirts, getting pierced, going to raves, not showering, playing in garage bands, staying out late, wearing hats in class, or being openly LGBT; I did some but not all of these (I never wear a hat, in class or out, for instance), AND had left-wing political views, at least on the social issues) or preppies (the clean-cut kids who took AP and Honors classes and padded their résumés with lots of extracurriculars, "so I can get into a good college, so I can get a good job, so I'll have lots of money to raise a family", AND were conservative on social issues). My high school was about 5% jocks and rednecks (who were party animals and did rebellious things, BUT were proudly and loudly right-wing on political issues), and we also had a handful of nerds, but still, more than 90% of us fell somewhere on the Youth Culturalist/preppy axis. And even then, there were sports for many different types of boys and girls offered at my school. The wrestling team was for jocks. The football team was largely jock boys, but also had a large number of preppies. The girls' basketball team was mostly preppies, the boys' basketball team mostly hip-hoppers. Tennis was for preppies. The Campolindo baseball team was for stoners who smoked weed and chewed tobacco. Water polo was for punks. Ultimate Frisbee was for spacey seventies types.

In high school, I decided I was not born with the wrong genitalia or karyotype, I decided that I was simply a bisexual, gender-nonconforming cisboy. (To this day, I have long hair (but also a beard) and long nails, and wear sunglasses that come out of the ladies' section.) And when I was 18 I never registered with Selective Service (I learned in Government/History that no one had been prosecuted for not registering since 1986). I would've been 4F for sure if there were a draft, anyway. I realized in high school that my true calling was in music/songwriting, not in playing sports, nor in starting a family and providing for it. Thank God for the chance to figure out who you are in high school!
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Khemehekis wrote: 06 Aug 2024 07:19 I just learned the word "altisonant" from browsing a Medium.com article by a famous troll.
Altisonant = high-sounding ?
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eldin raigmore wrote: 06 Aug 2024 13:52
Khemehekis wrote: 06 Aug 2024 07:19 I just learned the word "altisonant" from browsing a Medium.com article by a famous troll.
Altisonant = high-sounding ?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/altisonant

altisonant
adjective
al·​tis·​o·​nant
(ˈ)al¦tisᵊnənt

archaic: lofty or pompous : high-sounding

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Khemehekis wrote: 07 Aug 2024 01:58
eldin raigmore wrote: 06 Aug 2024 13:52
Khemehekis wrote: 06 Aug 2024 07:19 I just learned the word "altisonant" from browsing a Medium.com article by a famous troll.
Altisonant = high-sounding ?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/altisonant

altisonant
adjective
al·​tis·​o·​nant
(ˈ)al¦tisᵊnənt

archaic: lofty or pompous : high-sounding

So you were right!
Now this is what I call a self-describing word! [;)]
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Ludibrium: Originally, an object of fun, and at the same time, of scorn and derision; or and it also denotes a capricious game itself.
Then a way to derisively refer to secret societies that look like practical jokes but might be real.

So basically a way to refer to ARGs in Latin? Lol.
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clanging: conlanging in a psychotic way...
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I've heard the term "clonging" before, though maybe that just refers to conlanging itself.
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Visions1 wrote: 26 Aug 2024 10:48 I've heard the term "clonging" before, though maybe that just refers to conlanging itself.
According to Fluffy8x, yes: https://cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=32 ... ng#p322668

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Visions1 wrote: 26 Aug 2024 10:48 I've heard the term "clonging" before, though maybe that just refers to conlanging itself.
"Clonging" is indeed another word for "conlanging," and "clong," "conlang." I've not heard "clang" before, but it is an excellent meaning and word.
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Ran across in silico, which context seems to indicate means simulated especially simulating scientific experiments. Coined presumably by analogy with in vitro and in vivo.

The Latin nerd in me wishes to point out that the correct word would be in silicio.
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lurker wrote: 09 Sep 2024 21:45 Ran across in silico, which context seems to indicate means simulated especially simulating scientific experiments. Coined presumably by analogy with in vitro and in vivo.

The Latin nerd in me wishes to point out that the correct word would be in silicio.
Concurred.
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WeepingElf wrote: 09 Sep 2024 22:30
lurker wrote: 09 Sep 2024 21:45 Ran across in silico, which context seems to indicate means simulated especially simulating scientific experiments. Coined presumably by analogy with in vitro and in vivo.

The Latin nerd in me wishes to point out that the correct word would be in silicio.
Concurred.
And if you really want to get into the weeds, since silicium is presumably a Neolatin coinage based on the classical Latin silex (flint), then it would be in silice.
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lurker wrote: 09 Sep 2024 23:39
WeepingElf wrote: 09 Sep 2024 22:30
lurker wrote: 09 Sep 2024 21:45 Ran across in silico, which context seems to indicate means simulated especially simulating scientific experiments. Coined presumably by analogy with in vitro and in vivo.

The Latin nerd in me wishes to point out that the correct word would be in silicio.
Concurred.
And if you really want to get into the weeds, since silicium is presumably a Neolatin coinage based on the classical Latin silex (flint), then it would be in silice.
Sure, but silicon is not silex, in a similar way hydrogen is not water; and the ancients did not have a word for it at all. But silicium is at least Neo-Latin, while a word **silicum of which silico would be the ablative does not exist at all.
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lsd wrote: 26 Aug 2024 10:01 clanging: conlanging in a psychotic way...
I confess, I never thought of Clangers as psychotic.

though I can see how their obsessiveness can venture into that...what with things like only eating the Soup Dragon's soup.
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Keenir wrote: 12 Sep 2024 02:20
lsd wrote: 26 Aug 2024 10:01 clanging: conlanging in a psychotic way...
I confess, I never thought of Clangers as psychotic.

though I can see how their obsessiveness can venture into that...what with things like only eating the Soup Dragon's soup.
Soup Dragons? Like the alternative band?
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