What did you accomplish today?

[Knox Adjacent]

I remembered to write a little bit about noun incorporation with some examples. "Hurr-durr, remember the polysynthesis lol."

[Nel Fie]

Took me a bit longer than I wanted, in part due to some unforeseen bugs with the widgetset (i.e. a thingamajig that translates the "idea" of a graphical interface as programmed into the actual visuals), but my diachronic conlanging app now has two new tools:

1) A tool that can add segments, diacritics and natural classes 'en masse' to a selected phonological transcription system by permutating a list of symbols with a self-permutated list of features. For example, to add your standard plosive series, it would look like:

Code: Select all

Symbols: p,b,t,d,k,g
Shared Features: Plosive, Non-Syllabic, Modal
Features 1: Bilabial,Alveolar,Velar
Features 2: Voiceless, Voiced

I'll add more mechanisms later, such as deleting or modifying existing elements through the same process, but it's already a big step forward from having to enter elements one by one.

2) An import-export tool for transcription systems, allowing the user to import a system from template files or other projects. Exporting a system to file is still a "to-do" but shouldn't be hard, other options such as merging systems will be a bit more work, but hopefully worth the while (e.g. giving users the possibility to customise their version of the IPA by selectively merging extensions they need into the version of the IPA they're already using.)

[lurker]

I downloaded Famitracker yesterday and am trying to figure out how I can synthesize a Commonthroat audio sample. I'm making some progress, having figured out how to manipulate the envelope of a sound. Trackers are made for music, and are notoriously opaque even when used for their intended purpose, and I'm trying to twist it into a doggo speech synth, so things will be difficult.

Hopefully I'll stick with this long enough to produce something, but my dopamine starved ADHD brain doesn't like things that aren't straightforward, so time will tell. The key is to have small but meaningful successes, and figuring out the envelope tool was my first.

Parallel to this, I'm trying to figure out a way to get high quality audio samples of my dog's sleep vocalizations that I can analyze and reproduce in the tracker. I know nothing about music or sound design, and vanishingly little about acoustic phonetics, this train's going to derail at some point I'm sure.

[Nel Fie]

I downloaded Famitracker yesterday and am trying to figure out how I can synthesize a Commonthroat audio sample. I'm making some progress, having figured out how to manipulate the envelope of a sound. Trackers are made for music, and are notoriously opaque even when used for their intended purpose, and I'm trying to twist it into a doggo speech synth, so things will be difficult.

Hopefully I'll stick with this long enough to produce something, but my dopamine starved ADHD brain doesn't like things that aren't straightforward, so time will tell. The key is to have small but meaningful successes, and figuring out the envelope tool was my first.

Parallel to this, I'm trying to figure out a way to get high quality audio samples of my dog's sleep vocalizations that I can analyze and reproduce in the tracker. I know nothing about music or sound design, and vanishingly little about acoustic phonetics, this train's going to derail at some point I'm sure.

While it's not the easiest to use, there is at least one VST (i.e. a digital synthesizer) called Fauna, made by a developer called xoxos, that's specifically designed to create sounds reminiscent of animal vocal tracts. Maybe that would help?

Aside from that, I also know a Discord server with some other conlangers who've dabbled in synthesizing sound samples for non-human creatures like dragons. Let me know if you'd be interested in talking to them, I can send you a link.

[lurker]

While it's not the easiest to use, there is at least one VST (i.e. a digital synthesizer) called Fauna, made by a developer called xoxos, that's specifically designed to create sounds reminiscent of animal vocal tracts. Maybe that would help?

Aside from that, I also know a Discord server with some other conlangers who've dabbled in synthesizing sound samples for non-human creatures like dragons. Let me know if you'd be interested in talking to them, I can send you a link.

Thanks for the info. Fauna looks like it's trying to model articulators, which might prove difficult. I'm trying to approach this from an acoustic direction, by looking at the sounds as they are heard. I'll certainly keep it in mind though.

Yes I'd be interested in that discord link.

[TBPO]

I'm working on my Neocities website:
https://tbpo.neocities.org/

[lurker]

I'm working on my Neocities website:
https://tbpo.neocities.org/

I have a Neocities website as well.
https://lonelygalaxy.neocities.org/

Nothing on it at the moment.

My very first conworld is old enough that my friend and I had Geocities page for it. I've tried to find it on some of the archive sites but no luck.

[criminalmammal]

I'm working on my Neocities website:
https://tbpo.neocities.org/

I have a Neocities website as well.
https://lonelygalaxy.neocities.org/

Nothing on it at the moment.

My very first conworld is old enough that my friend and I had Geocities page for it. I've tried to find it on some of the archive sites but no luck.

In response to the question on your website: no, unfortunately, clicking the link to your Markdown page just downloads it as a text file.

[lurker]

In response to the question on your website: no, unfortunately, clicking the link to your Markdown page just downloads it as a text file.

Lol thanks. It takes forever for the index page to show up, so I was killing time until then. I think it's like 15 minutes or more.

Edit: No, I was wrong, it's a caching issue, it actually updates more quickly.

[Arayaz]

I'm working on my Neocities website:
https://tbpo.neocities.org/

I have a Neocities website as well.
https://lonelygalaxy.neocities.org/

Nothing on it at the moment.

My very first conworld is old enough that my friend and I had Geocities page for it. I've tried to find it on some of the archive sites but no luck.

I, too, have a Neocity: https://arayaz.neocities.org.

[Nel Fie]

Thanks for the info. Fauna looks like it's trying to model articulators, which might prove difficult. I'm trying to approach this from an acoustic direction, by looking at the sounds as they are heard. I'll certainly keep it in mind though.

Yes I'd be interested in that discord link.

Ok, I've sent you the link as a private message.

And yea, Fauna isn't the easiest to use for that reason. It's perhaps more useful if one was trying to design the timbre of the voice rather than the prosody of the speech.

[Khemehekis]

I finished doing my work on the I-words from the IGCE list and am now up to 100,209 words. From word #99,526, mopha mopha nid (IAP, the initials M.M.N. for morgen mokhass netzithnatos, in-app purchase) to word #100,209, tutaros (honor, izzat, made of tutar (honorable) + -os (suffix for an abstract noun)), I got 684 new Kankonian words. And as everybody here knows now, I passed the 100,000-word mark along the way.

[lurker]

This is my first tangible step to a true Commonthroat audio sample. It represents how a human hearing a yinrih speak for the first time would describe the language.

[TBPO]

I created a conworlding scratchpad (before that I had only a conlanging scratchpad...)

[Nel Fie]

Made some progress on my sound changer / diachronic conlang creation app. Mostly debugging and testing, but it's now possible to:

- Create a new project
- Import and export phonological transcription systems
- Create a new system, adding feature sets and features to these sets
- Create new segments, classes, diacritics within a selected system and assign them symbols, a system and distinctive features
--- Either unit by unit, or with a mass addition tool (though the latter might be faster even for a single item)

In the process of testing, I started a template for extIPA. Not the most important to have, but a good test case, especially when it'll come to figuring out how to merge systems with one another (since extIPA is intended to be merged with the IPA).

[Khemehekis]

This is my first tangible step to a true Commonthroat audio sample. It represents how a human hearing a yinrih speak for the first time would describe the language.

Yes!





An updated list of the ,000 words in Kankonian's lexicon (added 96K, 97K, 98K, 99K, 100K): https://cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=328837#p328837

[lurker]

I synthesized an actual Commonthroat word.

Here it is on SoundCloud. This also technically counts as a full sentence given Commonthroat's tendency to drop agents/patients when redundant.

<GJ> /long rising strengthening growl/ "to work" or "to make". Alternatively "I work".

[Arayaz]

I synthesized an actual Commonthroat word.

Here it is on SoundCloud. This also technically counts as a full sentence given Commonthroat's tendency to drop agents/patients when redundant.

<GJ> /long rising strengthening growl/ "to work" or "to make". Alternatively "I work".

Yes, you do indeed! Excellent work!

[Khemehekis]

I synthesized an actual Commonthroat word.

Here it is on SoundCloud. This also technically counts as a full sentence given Commonthroat's tendency to drop agents/patients when redundant.

<GJ> /long rising strengthening growl/ "to work" or "to make". Alternatively "I work".

Wow! That sounded like a flatulent "rip"!

[Nel Fie]

Managed to finish two features on my sound changer / conlanging app today:

- Diacritics can now be simultaneously prefixed and suffixed. Aside from being useful in general, it was also necessary for the IPA to implement the "linking"/"tie bar" diacritic, as used by affricates.

- A phonological transcription system can now be replaced across a whole project. E.g., if the user has an old version of the IPA and wishes to replace it with a new version throughout their conlang, without having to re-label every sound change, syllabification, etc; all it now takes is a template file and the click of a button.