Wintarus wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023 00:05For my main conworld project, the majority religion of the story's focus civilization is a mish-mash of Confucianism meets animistic polytheism. The largest religion in the conworld, however, is a Christianity-esque missionary-spread religion that worships a Jesus-like figure. I decided to include this as an element in the worldbuilding because when I think of a "successful" religion, I imagine a religion that preaches prosperity to believers, and eternal unending spiritual punishment after death to unbelievers. Also a belief system that isn't restricted to any one ethnicity or culture, and is very evangelical in its nature. The only major religions on Earth that fit this description are Christianity and Islam,
Buddhism would be shocked that you consider it restricted to an ethnicity or culture...and would probably ask "Which?"
As I wanted the peoples who spread the Chrisianity-esque religion to be European-coded, I figure Islam would not be as fitting (this is of course not to say that you cannot Europeanize Islam to fit some aesthetic worldbuilding goal).
its already been Europeanized, if you mean inhabiting what we presently define as Europe: Asia Minor, the Balkans, Greece, Spain, Portugal, Russia&thereabouts, Malta, most other islands in the Med. Sea.
Buddhism would be shocked that you consider it restricted to an ethnicity or culture...and would probably ask "Which?"
so would sikhism, jainism, baha'i... sure, they have cultural and aesthetic signs of their cultural origins, but like... so does christianity and islam.
Wintarus wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023 00:05
I decided to include this as an element in the worldbuilding because when I think of a "successful" religion, I imagine a religion that preaches prosperity to believers, and eternal unending spiritual punishment after death to unbelievers. Also a belief system that isn't restricted to any one ethnicity or culture, and is very evangelical in its nature. The only major religions on Earth that fit this description are Christianity and Islam, also the two most followed, or "successful" religions.
As I wanted the peoples who spread the Chrisianity-esque religion to be European-coded, I figure Islam would not be as fitting (this is of course not to say that you cannot Europeanize Islam to fit some aesthetic worldbuilding goal).
I think your definition of a “successful” religion is much too narrow. What makes a religion successful is not the religion itself, but the context around that religion. For example, it probably needs to be adapted by some kind of government, which means it must allow or be altered to allow a natural explanation for why the government is in control. If it is to spread, it should be agreeable to the values of the culture it is introduced to. The government that adapts it must be effective at preaching that religion.
Also, there are certain religious beliefs that appear more often in certain types of societies, but even then their success is more dependent on the success of the culture itself.
Khemehekis wrote: ↑12 Aug 2018 03:28
I'm not fond of White supremacist genocidal American democracy myself. The only candidates in the 2016 election I liked were Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein. For several years now I have believed that democracy is a failure and should be replaced with a leftist oligarchy.
Khemehekis wrote: ↑12 Aug 2018 03:28
I'm not fond of White supremacist genocidal American democracy myself. The only candidates in the 2016 election I liked were Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein. For several years now I have believed that democracy is a failure and should be replaced with a leftist oligarchy.
How do you feel about demarchy, or sortition?
Looked up "demarchy" in Wiktionary (I've been browsing it this past hour to look up words on the IGCE list) and learned what it was about.
Doesn't sound as bad as democracy. There are still many views I have that are to the left of the majority of Americans, though, so I'm not sure like what they do. The government of the U.S. today, however, is quite a ways to the right of the median American on corporate issues, so there would likely be improvement. And who's to say those lottery-selected Americans won't have been brainwashed by fake news programming (like Fox News)?
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@Khemehekis:
As I recall, if I recall correctly,
The following two predicted effects of election by sortition were thought to be the main reasons for it:
* Eliminates the influence of money on electing office-holders.
* Eliminates party-feeling and/or partisanism in election campaigns, because there won’t be any campaigns.
Also: there might be no need for political parties at all.
If some do form and arise, it will be after the election, and in response to or antecipation of something the officeholders have done this term, or are expected to do this term.
So the influence of political parties will be reduced even when election-day isn’t close; and likely none of the parties would last two (or maybe I should say “three”?) terms-of-office.
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(I could be wrong!)
Thanks again!
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The last handful of posts have been about politics, rather than religion!
Should I ask the mods to move them to a different thread/string? Or even start a new thread/string?
eldin raigmore wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025 22:25
The last handful of posts have been about politics, rather than religion!
Should I ask the mods to move them to a different thread/string? Or even start a new thread/string?
Eh, I'm pretty happy keeping things where they are (they've flown somewhat naturally out of a previous post), at least in terms of "mods moving stuff". If people want to start a new thread, though, by all means Just the same kind of thing that Dormouse pointed out back in 2018, keep in mind House Rule 3 ("Tread lightly around sensitive subjects")
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.