I was walking in the forest...
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I was walking in the forest...
I was walking in the forest when a branch fell on my head.
Inyauk:
tásur txíʔim pífalana fálumax ah nahápan tínaukalak itxúlutaf
'tasuɾ 'ʧi-m 'pif-al-ana 'falum-aʃ ax nax-'apan 'tinauk-al-ak iʧ-'ulut-af
<RC.time 1.sg-AGT walk-PST-CNT forest-IN RC> IDF-branch fall-PST-END my-head-ON
RC=Relative Clause
AGT=Agent
PST=Past
CNT=Continue
</> = open/close
IDF=indefinite
Please put glosses for conlangs. :)
Edit: Realized I should put what my abbreviations mean.
Edit2: Replaced with revised Inyauk.
Inyauk:
tásur txíʔim pífalana fálumax ah nahápan tínaukalak itxúlutaf
'tasuɾ 'ʧi-m 'pif-al-ana 'falum-aʃ ax nax-'apan 'tinauk-al-ak iʧ-'ulut-af
<RC.time 1.sg-AGT walk-PST-CNT forest-IN RC> IDF-branch fall-PST-END my-head-ON
RC=Relative Clause
AGT=Agent
PST=Past
CNT=Continue
</> = open/close
IDF=indefinite
Please put glosses for conlangs. :)
Edit: Realized I should put what my abbreviations mean.
Edit2: Replaced with revised Inyauk.
Last edited by Ossicone on 14 Sep 2010 20:25, edited 2 times in total.
Re: I was walking in the forest...
Agyonnar:
Ido na zen gyo natsunda feya ma atsai dzo ma pezyi hyimo nyal nez.
[i.ˈdɔ.na.zen.gyo.na.ˈtsun.ˌda.fe.ˈyɑ.ma.ˈtsɑɪ.dzo.ma.pe.ˈʝi.çi.ˈmɔ.ɲal.nɛz]
<walk PART is PAST sea tree GEN head me GEN branch fall on when>
Ido na zen gyo natsunda feya ma atsai dzo ma pezyi hyimo nyal nez.
[i.ˈdɔ.na.zen.gyo.na.ˈtsun.ˌda.fe.ˈyɑ.ma.ˈtsɑɪ.dzo.ma.pe.ˈʝi.çi.ˈmɔ.ɲal.nɛz]
<walk PART is PAST sea tree GEN head me GEN branch fall on when>
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Alpic:
Olum padza na ta polko abze zo hoska gateli mla kapomi.
/ˈolum ˈpadza na ta ˈpolko ˈabze zo ˈhoʃka gaˈteli mla kaˈpomi/
[ˈɔɫʊm ˈpɐɗza na ta ˈpɔɫko ˈɐɓze zo ˈhɔʃka ɠaˈteli mla kaˈpomi]
o-lu-m pad-za na ta polko abze zo hoska gate-li-s mla kapo-mi
be-PST-1SG.A walk-AP in DEF forest when INDEF branch drop-PST.MD-3SG.A on head-1SG.
"I was walking in the forest when a branch dropped itself on my head."
AP = Active Participle
A = Agentive Subject
MD = Medio-Passive
Olum padza na ta polko abze zo hoska gateli mla kapomi.
/ˈolum ˈpadza na ta ˈpolko ˈabze zo ˈhoʃka gaˈteli mla kaˈpomi/
[ˈɔɫʊm ˈpɐɗza na ta ˈpɔɫko ˈɐɓze zo ˈhɔʃka ɠaˈteli mla kaˈpomi]
o-lu-m pad-za na ta polko abze zo hoska gate-li-s mla kapo-mi
be-PST-1SG.A walk-AP in DEF forest when INDEF branch drop-PST.MD-3SG.A on head-1SG.
"I was walking in the forest when a branch dropped itself on my head."
AP = Active Participle
A = Agentive Subject
MD = Medio-Passive
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Avorenta:
Ővixe l-aćorrio, a lioch lóf i mes hênára.
[ˈøːviksɛ l ˈɒʧorːi̯o ɒ ˈli̯ox ˈlaːf i mɛs ˈhenaːrɒ]
őv-ix-e l-aćorr(a)-io a lioch lóf (<láf) i me-s hên-ára
walk-ADV_PART-SG1 the-forest-INE, a branch fall-PAST the I-GEN head-SUBL
Ővixe l-aćorrio, a lioch lóf i mes hênára.
[ˈøːviksɛ l ˈɒʧorːi̯o ɒ ˈli̯ox ˈlaːf i mɛs ˈhenaːrɒ]
őv-ix-e l-aćorr(a)-io a lioch lóf (<láf) i me-s hên-ára
walk-ADV_PART-SG1 the-forest-INE, a branch fall-PAST the I-GEN head-SUBL
¡Gin útoffiz illum pegáń ollozum ćo geniffiz avorentat ö-śaraden e voten! ¡Yhediz il Avorentas Olliridum!
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Re: I was walking in the forest...
Kankonian:
Is daitroken safga er gulupos av upalas shehe*en ash bad na is. [deciduous forest]
I walk+PAST in_the_process_of at deciduous_forest when branch fall+PAST on head of me
Is daitroken safga er varkariska av upalas shehe*en ash bad na is. [evergreen forest]
I walk+PAST in_the_process_of at evergreen_forest when branch fall+PAST on head of me
Is daitroken safga er tzebowu av upalas shehe*en ash bad na is. [rain-forest]
I walk+PAST in_the_process_of at rain-forest when branch fall+PAST on head of me
Is daitroken safga er gulupos av upalas shehe*en ash bad na is. [deciduous forest]
I walk+PAST in_the_process_of at deciduous_forest when branch fall+PAST on head of me
Is daitroken safga er varkariska av upalas shehe*en ash bad na is. [evergreen forest]
I walk+PAST in_the_process_of at evergreen_forest when branch fall+PAST on head of me
Is daitroken safga er tzebowu av upalas shehe*en ash bad na is. [rain-forest]
I walk+PAST in_the_process_of at rain-forest when branch fall+PAST on head of me
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
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31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Re: I was walking in the forest...
I was walking in the forest when a branch fell on my head.
goshpysheshta
hwath kue os myla ko wl zhakhis noi hwath kue zhabut pwthsi zhon nwa ko ait
/hQath kue os "mEla ko "z\axis noi kue "z\abut pQTsi "z\on nQa ko ait/
PAST is PROG walk I in forest REL-TIME is branch towards head of mine REL
I was walking in the forest, when a branch approached my head
REL=Relative Clause marker
REL-TIME=Time Relation marker
PAST=Past Particle
PROG=Progressive Particle
goshpysheshta
hwath kue os myla ko wl zhakhis noi hwath kue zhabut pwthsi zhon nwa ko ait
/hQath kue os "mEla ko "z\axis noi kue "z\abut pQTsi "z\on nQa ko ait/
PAST is PROG walk I in forest REL-TIME is branch towards head of mine REL
I was walking in the forest, when a branch approached my head
REL=Relative Clause marker
REL-TIME=Time Relation marker
PAST=Past Particle
PROG=Progressive Particle
Re: I was walking in the forest...
Eil: ey dorënget un 'ann doreun dluwyn agfeurch 'an
L1:
Fluent (on a good day):
Written:
Beginner:
Working on: ~ Eil
Fluent (on a good day):
Written:
Beginner:
Working on: ~ Eil
Re: I was walking in the forest...
Gloss?Jarhead wrote: Eil: ey dorënget un 'ann doreun dluwyn agfeurch 'an
Staalouviic
Re tilaente tei ov vaelkemii patsuu ren uuba nuhet vellalima tei ov pa.
RC in.land tree GEN walk.1PS PAST.CON ERC until on.head fell.3PS.limb tree GEN PAST
RC- relative clause
GEN- genitive
ERC- end relative clause
:zho:
Re: I was walking in the forest...
Sorry, still need to get used to it :Ptestyal1 wrote:Gloss?Jarhead wrote: Eil: ey dorënget un 'ann doreun dluwyn agfeurch 'an
Eil: ey dorënget un 'ann / doreun agfeurch dluwyn 'an
(i moved dluwyn so -i hope- its meaning is clearer in the gloss)
I tree[ASSOCIATIVE].LOC(T) movement PAST-IMPERFECT / tree[PARTIAL] head.DAT movement-down PAST-PERFECT
LOC(T) - locative (movement through)
DAT - dative
Associative and Partial are cases belonging to a particular declension in Eil. I'll soon post more informations on that :)
L1:
Fluent (on a good day):
Written:
Beginner:
Working on: ~ Eil
Fluent (on a good day):
Written:
Beginner:
Working on: ~ Eil
Re: I was walking in the forest...
I was walking through the forest when a branch fell on my head.
Ueuf Aelfi:
Iema slaua ilnaraob djuha mu elfuo, i eljuol ilnaraob iloa elt slaualar liihuf.
[jɛ.ma slau.a il.nɒ.aob dʲu.ɣa mu elf.wo elʲ.wol il.nɒ.aob il.wa elt slau.a.lɒ li:.ɣuβ]
As i past-ADV walk-DEF the forest, a branch past-ADV fell-DEF to my head.
(Iema aua aob djuha muelfuo, ieljuol aob iloa elt aualar liihuf.)
[jɛ.ma au.a aob dʲu.ɣa mu.elf.wo jelʲ.wol aob il.wa elt au.a.lɒ li:.ɣuβ]
As i past-ADV walk-DEF DEF-forest, INDEF-branch past-ADV fell-DEF to my head.
Ueuf Aelfi:
Iema slaua ilnaraob djuha mu elfuo, i eljuol ilnaraob iloa elt slaualar liihuf.
[jɛ.ma slau.a il.nɒ.aob dʲu.ɣa mu elf.wo elʲ.wol il.nɒ.aob il.wa elt slau.a.lɒ li:.ɣuβ]
As i past-ADV walk-DEF the forest, a branch past-ADV fell-DEF to my head.
(Iema aua aob djuha muelfuo, ieljuol aob iloa elt aualar liihuf.)
[jɛ.ma au.a aob dʲu.ɣa mu.elf.wo jelʲ.wol aob il.wa elt au.a.lɒ li:.ɣuβ]
As i past-ADV walk-DEF DEF-forest, INDEF-branch past-ADV fell-DEF to my head.
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Re: I was walking in the forest...
I was walking through the forest when a branch fell on my head.
Feayran:
Náa kufelirivuváte gukukáktozhehùuskra kóati.
náa k<u-fel<i>ri-v;u-v-á>te guk<u-k-á-kt;o-zhe<ùu>sk>ra k<óa>ti
NAA walk<LEAD-forest<VIA.FOLLOW>-1;LEAD.S-STAT-INTR> fall<LEAD-PERF-INTR-CLS;INAN.S-head<LAT.LEAD>> branch<DIR.INAN.S>
Narrative sequences like this are handled with the descriptive/eventive aspect distinction in Feayran. Descriptive aspects are used to establish setting or background (this example in particular uses the "stative" aspect, since the attribute of "walking" is not inherent to to the subject, but rather just something they happened to be doing at the time), while eventive aspects (this example uses the "perfective" to show a single, marked event with cohesive boundaries) are used for more salient changes and progressions.
If the falling of the branch is the high point or climax of whatever narrative the speaker was relating, the stronger punctual aspect could also be used:
Náa kufelirivuváte gukuráktozhehùuskra kóati.
Feayran:
Náa kufelirivuváte gukukáktozhehùuskra kóati.
náa k<u-fel<i>ri-v;u-v-á>te guk<u-k-á-kt;o-zhe<ùu>sk>ra k<óa>ti
NAA walk<LEAD-forest<VIA.FOLLOW>-1;LEAD.S-STAT-INTR> fall<LEAD-PERF-INTR-CLS;INAN.S-head<LAT.LEAD>> branch<DIR.INAN.S>
Narrative sequences like this are handled with the descriptive/eventive aspect distinction in Feayran. Descriptive aspects are used to establish setting or background (this example in particular uses the "stative" aspect, since the attribute of "walking" is not inherent to to the subject, but rather just something they happened to be doing at the time), while eventive aspects (this example uses the "perfective" to show a single, marked event with cohesive boundaries) are used for more salient changes and progressions.
If the falling of the branch is the high point or climax of whatever narrative the speaker was relating, the stronger punctual aspect could also be used:
Náa kufelirivuváte gukuráktozhehùuskra kóati.
(it/they)
任何事物的发展都是物极必反,否极泰来。
任何事物的发展都是物极必反,否极泰来。
Re: I was walking in the forest...
I was walking through the forest when a branch fell on my head.
Adro:
Na téceti uno na káŋtupo riman, xa slakörí ba o xo kukoro ňokitin.
Gloss*: The-N.S. head-PERL 1p-GEN the-PA.S branch[NOM] to_fall-PER.PAST, the-COLL.S. time-TEMP that 1p the-COLL.S. tree-LOC. to_walk-IMP.PAST.
Literal: "Via my head a branch fell, during the time that I was in the forest walking."
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N - neutral
PERL - perlative case
PA - partially animate (used for nature, weather, body parts, etc.)
PER/IMP - perfective/imperfective
COLL - collective/abstract
LOC - locative case
TEMP - temporal case
ps. My first conlang translation ever! Let me know if I did anything wrong.
Adro:
Na téceti uno na káŋtupo riman, xa slakörí ba o xo kukoro ňokitin.
Gloss*: The-N.S. head-PERL 1p-GEN the-PA.S branch[NOM] to_fall-PER.PAST, the-COLL.S. time-TEMP that 1p the-COLL.S. tree-LOC. to_walk-IMP.PAST.
Literal: "Via my head a branch fell, during the time that I was in the forest walking."
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N - neutral
PERL - perlative case
PA - partially animate (used for nature, weather, body parts, etc.)
PER/IMP - perfective/imperfective
COLL - collective/abstract
LOC - locative case
TEMP - temporal case
ps. My first conlang translation ever! Let me know if I did anything wrong.
My conlang: Adro
Re: I was walking in the forest...
When you make a gloss, you should segment the conlang example in the same way the gloss is segmented.
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Re: I was walking in the forest...
Obudo pomuk mu ikoto onu supo lidoduk utonu oto ipisomu obudu.
I was walking in the forest and a branch presently fell on my head.
<I walk-past,sing in forest and branch fall-past,sing present-modifier on head I-modifier>
I was walking in the forest and a branch presently fell on my head.
<I walk-past,sing in forest and branch fall-past,sing present-modifier on head I-modifier>
"Cry me a river, build me a bridge, and get over it."
I marvel that the hardest parts of my life (fear, mistakes, guilt, sin, doubt, failure) are of man, while what I crave most (rest, hope, love, peace, forgiveness) are of God.
I marvel that the hardest parts of my life (fear, mistakes, guilt, sin, doubt, failure) are of man, while what I crave most (rest, hope, love, peace, forgiveness) are of God.
Re: I was walking in the forest...
Wistra Gutisk
I was walking in the forest when a branch fell on my head.
Ek was ƕairbands ana walþáu swe tain disdráus meinamma haubida.
/ek wAs WE4bAnds An@ wA5T{U swe tEn dIsd4{Us mi:nAm:A hAVbId@/
I be-PAST walk-PRES.PART in the_forest-DAT when a_branch-ACC fall-PAST on_my-DAT head
I was walking in the forest when a branch fell on my head.
Ek was ƕairbands ana walþáu swe tain disdráus meinamma haubida.
/ek wAs WE4bAnds An@ wA5T{U swe tEn dIsd4{Us mi:nAm:A hAVbId@/
I be-PAST walk-PRES.PART in the_forest-DAT when a_branch-ACC fall-PAST on_my-DAT head
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Mekoshan:
This is a descendant from English. Note the inflected prepositions.
Awo waugn eede forh wei breish efeu ooma heid.
/ˈawo ˈwau̯kn̩ ˈeːte foħ wɛi̯ qʷɛi̯ʃ ˈefɛu̯ ˈoːma hɛi̯t/
[ˈawo ˈwau̯gn̩ ˈeːde fɔħ wɛi̯ ɢʷæi̯ʃ ˈefɛu̯ ˈoːma hɛi̯t]
a-wo waugn ee-de fors wei breish e-feu oo-ma heid
1SG-PST.DUR walk.DUR in-DEF forest when branch 3SG-fall.PST.AOR on-1SG.POSS head
DUR = Durative (Imperfective) Aspect
PRF = Perfective Aspect
POSS = Possessive clitic
AOR Aoristic Aspect
This is a descendant from English. Note the inflected prepositions.
Awo waugn eede forh wei breish efeu ooma heid.
/ˈawo ˈwau̯kn̩ ˈeːte foħ wɛi̯ qʷɛi̯ʃ ˈefɛu̯ ˈoːma hɛi̯t/
[ˈawo ˈwau̯gn̩ ˈeːde fɔħ wɛi̯ ɢʷæi̯ʃ ˈefɛu̯ ˈoːma hɛi̯t]
a-wo waugn ee-de fors wei breish e-feu oo-ma heid
1SG-PST.DUR walk.DUR in-DEF forest when branch 3SG-fall.PST.AOR on-1SG.POSS head
DUR = Durative (Imperfective) Aspect
PRF = Perfective Aspect
POSS = Possessive clitic
AOR Aoristic Aspect
Re: I was walking in the forest...
Wattētexu:
Me wike mai kī ne pāxe, o ko keē gato mō ta poyo xu mai me toko .
IMPF walk 1P.SG in SPEC.INAN.SG forest, REL PFT fall then to SPEC.ANIM.SG head of 1P.SG . NONSPEC.SG branch
SPEC = specified
INAN = inanimate
ANIM = animate
REL = relative word
NONSPEC = nonspecific
Me wike mai kī ne pāxe, o ko keē gato mō ta poyo xu mai me toko .
IMPF walk 1P.SG in SPEC.INAN.SG forest, REL PFT fall then to SPEC.ANIM.SG head of 1P.SG . NONSPEC.SG branch
SPEC = specified
INAN = inanimate
ANIM = animate
REL = relative word
NONSPEC = nonspecific
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Re: I was walking in the forest...
Arve:
Treijes sachde mätz strock en, tegnar kran korvus zipp en kmatz.
[ˈʈ͡ʂʰʌi̯jɪ‿ˈsaɣɪ ˌmʌ‿ˈʈ͡ʂʰɞ‿kɪn | ˈt͡sʰeŋɐ ʈ͡ʂʰɐŋ ˈkʰuə̯vʊ‿ˈsɛp ɪŋ ˈkʷʰaə̯ʂ]
trei-je-s sachde mätz strock en | tegna-r kran korv-s zipp en k-matz
IPFV-PAST-1S INE.APPL tree.COLL walk 1S | PFV.PAST-3S LOC.APPL strike 1S PART-tree
Treijes sachde mätz strock en, tegnar kran korvus zipp en kmatz.
[ˈʈ͡ʂʰʌi̯jɪ‿ˈsaɣɪ ˌmʌ‿ˈʈ͡ʂʰɞ‿kɪn | ˈt͡sʰeŋɐ ʈ͡ʂʰɐŋ ˈkʰuə̯vʊ‿ˈsɛp ɪŋ ˈkʷʰaə̯ʂ]
trei-je-s sachde mätz strock en | tegna-r kran korv-s zipp en k-matz
IPFV-PAST-1S INE.APPL tree.COLL walk 1S | PFV.PAST-3S LOC.APPL strike 1S PART-tree
Re: I was walking in the forest...
P1 (adapting roninbodhisattva's naming strategy...)
Esiluavavami, ui siellu ateskukunueg.
E-silu-av-ava-mi, ui siellu-0 a-tes-kukun-ueg-0.
POS-forest-fall-REAL.PST.CONT-1sg, and branch-NOM.SG POS.IRR-head-go.onto-SUBJ.PRS.PRF-3sg
I was walking in the forest when a branch fell on my head.
P1 uses the subjunctive to bring attention to actions that result directly or indirectly from the main verb. In this case, the branch's falling was indirectly caused by going into the forest.
Esiluavavami, ui siellu ateskukunueg.
E-silu-av-ava-mi, ui siellu-0 a-tes-kukun-ueg-0.
POS-forest-fall-REAL.PST.CONT-1sg, and branch-NOM.SG POS.IRR-head-go.onto-SUBJ.PRS.PRF-3sg
I was walking in the forest when a branch fell on my head.
P1 uses the subjunctive to bring attention to actions that result directly or indirectly from the main verb. In this case, the branch's falling was indirectly caused by going into the forest.
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Re: I was walking in the forest...
since I have dialect isoglosses done now:Nortaneous wrote:Arve:
Treijes sachde mätz strock en, tegnar kran korvus zipp en kmatz.
[ˈʈ͡ʂʰʌi̯jɪ‿ˈsaɣɪ ˌmʌ‿ˈʈ͡ʂʰɞ‿kɪn | ˈt͡sʰeŋɐ ʈ͡ʂʰɐŋ ˈkʰuə̯vʊ‿ˈsɛp ɪŋ ˈkʷʰaə̯ʂ]
trei-je-s sachde mätz strock en | tegna-r kran korv-s zipp en k-matz
IPFV-PAST-1S INE.APPL tree.COLL walk 1S | PFV.PAST-3S LOC.APPL strike 1S PART-tree
Standard: [ˈʈ͡ʂʰʌi̯jɪ ˈsaɣɪ ˌmʌˈʈ͡ʂʰɞk ɪn | ˈt͡sʰeŋɐ ʈ͡ʂʰɐŋˈkʰuo̯vʊ ˈsɛp ɪŋ ˈkʷʰaɔ̯ʂ]
Northern: [ˈt͡sʌi̯jɪ ˈsɑwɪ ˌmɑˈt͡sɔɥk ɪn | ˈt͡seŋɐ t͡sɐŋˈɡwɵvʊ ˈsep ɪm ˈpʰaws]
Midland: [ˈʈ͡ʂʰʌi̯jɪ ˈsaɣɪ ˌmʌˈʈ͡ʂʰɞʔ ɪn | ˈt͡sʰeŋɐ ʈ͡ʂʰɐŋˈkʰuəvʊ ˈsɛp ɪŋ ˈkʷʰaəʂ]
Southern: [ˈʂɛːjɪ ˈsaɣɪ ˌmʌˈʂɞk ɪn | ˈseŋɐ ʂɐŋˈkʰuːvʊ ˈsɛp ɪŋ ˈkʷʰɔːʂ]