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Re: Surprising cognates

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ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: 19 Aug 2024 19:34
k1234567890y wrote: 16 Aug 2024 23:08 βαγο (bago /⁠βaɣ⁠/, “God, Lord”)
Is this a true or false cognate with :hrv: :cze: :slv: :slk: :pol: :ukr: :blr: :rus: “Bog” and relatives?
Apparently, yes, it's a real cognate.
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ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: 19 Aug 2024 19:34
k1234567890y wrote: 16 Aug 2024 23:08 βαγο (bago /⁠βaɣ⁠/, “God, Lord”)
Is this a true or false cognate with :hrv: :cze: :slv: :slk: :pol: :ukr: :blr: :rus: “Bog” and relatives?
The answer is yes, according to Wiktionary, both words are ultimately from Proto-Indo-European *bʰeh₂g- (“to divide”)
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:eng: pillow / :eng: pulverize
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How? Why? French? PIE?
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Creyeditor wrote: 24 Sep 2024 19:02 How? Why? French? PIE?
"Pillow", according to https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pillow, comes from the Proto-West Germanic *pulwī, which was borrowed from Latin pulvīnus (cushion), which is derived from pulvis (dust, powder).
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An early Latin loan into Proto-West Germanic. Neat [:)]
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I have just found a paper that suggests that Chinese wáng 'king' may be a loanword from an IE language and related to Greek (w)ánax. I am not sure whether this really makes sense, though. But it doesn't sound implausible, and the author, Douglas Q. Adams, is a respectabe Indo-Europeanist.
Edit: Thinking again about it, it does not strike me as very likely. The PIE etymology he gives, *wn.h2ǵts, seems very contrived to me, and it seems more likely that Greek (w)ánax is a loanword from a non-IE, pre-Greek language, and Tocharian A nâtäk 'lord' unrelated to either the Greek or the Chinese word.
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Man in Space wrote: 20 Aug 2024 01:10 :eng: fajita ‘fajita’ : fascism ‘fascism’
Also, a certain slur for LGBT people is also a cognate.
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:eng: seethe
:eng: sodden

The latter is an archaic past participle of the former.
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English journey and Dutch jurk "dress"

both are ultimately borrowed form Old French journée "day"
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David Shulman, an Israeli professor of South Asian studies, in his book about the history of Tamil lit and culture, proposes that :isr: תּוֹכִי /tuki/ "parrot" is related to Old Tamil துகி /tuki/ "Peacock", since in Biblical :isr:, the word meant "Peacock" and is mentioned in sections of Kings and Chronicles that tie them with other possibly Indian-sourced goods, such as Ivory and Monkeys. Note that he does get a bit carried away- saying that Sanskrit कपि /kapi/ "Monkey" is the source of :isr: קוף /qup/ [kuf] "id.", when the Phoenician cognate, plus the fact that North African species, like the Barbary Macaque, would have reached Semitic speakers first, negates the idea of an Indic source for the word "monkey" in a Levantine Semitic language.
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