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GoshDiggityDangit wrote: ↑03 Apr 2021 08:07 I think this counts? In Fesian, the word for sneak is Camio. It is pronounced much like English Cameo, where you kinda sneak a celebrity or the director into a movie. I just made this word, it's from Ca+Mio, go quietly.

Dormouse559 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2021 09:44 So, I picked *pintei as the etymon of Ilóhra's word for "milk". This resulted in modern hinti [ˈhinti], which was all well and good, but then I altered my sound changes, and it became hindi [ˈhindi]. The sound changes recently got another overhaul, though, so the modern form is now inži [ˈind͡ʒi]. I guess that new form might still be a weird coincidence if you speak Portuguese.

Pabappa wrote: ↑19 Jun 2024 13:26for example just now i created a new Play word sūči for a body within a frill, something that lives but is attached to something nonliving that's attached to something living.
I know I didnt explain this well but it's hard to illustrate and describe.

• lyu (liu) means "place" or "location", like the non-yod-dropping English pronunciation of the French loanword liu. It's intended to be related to the root lu "located entity", "present entity" and an inserted /j/ or some form of palatalisation often derives a genitive form, so it's kind of like "(thing) of a located thing", and something like lu for location has been around in my conlangs for years. It might originally be inspired by location, lieu, lugar etc. though.

• vwo (fuo) means "fire" and may have been subconsciously influenced by Italian fuoco. It fits in though with vo "red entity", ve "white entity" and vwa "yellow entity", with a kind of sound-symbolism thing going on there for brightness, vibrancy, warm colours and vwe "seer" might also be a part of this group (and also might be subconsciously influenced by French voir).

• zwambo (suapō | suanipō) means "lake", "pond", "swamp", "marsh", "wetland" — coincidentally reminiscent of "swamp" but formed from zwa (sua) "water", "liquid" and mbo (pō | nipō) meaning (entity that) "remains", "continues", "is stationary".

• bandya (patiā | panitiā) means "large amount", used appositionally before uncountable mass nouns. It sounds a lot like "bunch of". Hii bandya ngge! (Hiqi patiā kē! | Hiqi panitiā nikē.) "That's a lot of money!" ("That's a bunch of money!")

• mbangge (pākē | nipānikē) means "bank" and, in the men's speech, has exactly the same pronunciation as the Fijian word baqe /ˈmbaŋɡe/, which is a loanword from English. Hibu is supposed to be situated fairly close to Fiji, so it would easily seem like a loan, but it comes from the native roots mba (pā | nipā) "house" and ngge (kē | nikē) "money". When I first came up with the root for "money" it was nggu and I later swapped it with ngge, which, at the time, meant "hunter", "one who tries" because I wanted the latter to be closer to ngu "killer" ... and then I swapped nggu and ngu so that they are "killer" and "hunter/attempter" respectively.

• mongo (mongo) means either "shark" (gwi mongo) or "cannibal" (ngo mongo). It derives from mo "eater", "drinker", "consumer" and ngo "person", basically equivalent to "maneater" or "people-eater". Its coincidental similarity is to the Māori word for sharks, mangō. In the far southern dialect of Māori, /ŋ/ has merged with /k/ and the word for shark is makō, whence the English name of mako sharks. The sound of the phrase lo ngo mongo "cannibalism" is also pretty satisfying: /lɔŋɔˈmɔŋɔ/. It's just from situation person consumer-person.

• mwa limu (mua limu) (or, in older language or more formally, mwalimu (mualimu) means "teacher", "guru", "mentor", "learning guide". It generally means teachers of adolescents and adults, contrasting with zye limu | zyelimu (sie limu | sielimu), which means a teacher of young children. It comes from mwa "leader" and limu "learner", which itself comes from li "beginner" and mu "knower", so it's a leader of learners. A zye limu is literally a "cause(r) of learners". The reason for the differing forms is that, in modern Hibuese, there is a tendency to avoid long sequences of unstressed syllables after the main word stress, so long compounds of three or more syllables are split into shorter words. Mwálimu becomes mwa límu. Long compounds are still used frequently in formal language, legalese and the like, and this has syntactic consequences: "my teacher" can be mwalimu nga or mwa limu u nga. Mwa limu nga, without u would mean "leader of people who get to know me" or something like that because nga can only "reach back" to the previous word/stress.
  
  The coincidence here is that mwalimu /mwaˈlimu/ (identical in pronunciation with Hibuese mwa limu and in spelling with mwalimu) is the Swahili word for "teacher", which is a loan from Arabic معلم muʕallim. I came up with zyelimu first and wasn't happy with it meaning basically "cause(r) of learners" because teaching is more about guiding, and I realised that mwa was the best root to use instead and .

Khemehekis wrote: ↑14 Jul 2024 22:51 Wow, Imralu, those are quite a few coincidences! Sounds as if Hibuese has a lot of houmanti's!

• bo ndyovi (po nitiōfi | po tiōfi), which means "one(s) who want(s) to be a "bad group". A ndyovi is a gang, horde, mob, rabble (from ndyo "group" and vi "bad one") and bo means "one who wants" ("one who wants to be ..." with an absolutive modifier and "one who wants (to have) ..." with a genitive modifier). It means that Bon Jovi kind of sounds like "Wannabe Gangsters" or "Wannabe Badguys" or something.

Imralu wrote: ↑15 Jul 2024 14:34

Khemehekis wrote: ↑14 Jul 2024 22:51 Wow, Imralu, those are quite a few coincidences! Sounds as if Hibuese has a lot of houmanti's!

Yes, but I don't know houmanti it has.

One that I forgot is ...

• bo ndyovi (po nitiōfi | po tiōfi), which means "one(s) who want(s) to be a "bad group". A ndyovi is a gang, horde, mob, rabble (from ndyo "group" and vi "bad one") and bo means "one who wants" ("one who wants to be ..." with an absolutive modifier and "one who wants (to have) ..." with a genitive modifier). It means that Bon Jovi kind of sounds like "Wannabe Gangsters" or "Wannabe Badguys" or something.

Quetzalcoatl wrote: ↑01 Jul 2024 22:39 Two coincidences about Miwonša:

(1) "Tra" is the word for "through" in both Miwonša and Esperanto. When I "invented" the word, I did not know that. I guess I must have learnt some Esperanto 20 years ago, forgotten everything that I had learned, but the word "tra" must have stuck somehow in my memory. However, when I decided that "tra" would be the word for "through" in MIwonša, I did not remember that it was also used in Esperanto.

(2) "Prokto" (one of the oldest words in Miwonša) is the word for "even" (as in "I do not have only one car, I have EVEN two cars!). When I invented the word, I did not know that "prokto" sounds a lot like "proctologist". I was so young at that time that I did not even know what a proctologist does :) Recently I have been thinking about whether I should change the word, but then I decided against it because every natural language has words that sound funny or weird in other languages.

Thus, the Miwonšan word for "even" (prokto) has nothing to do with proctology, just like the Swedish word "fart" doesn't mean "fart" in English and just like the German word "dick" is not a slang word for penis, but just means thick. It is just a pure coincidence

Imralu wrote: ↑12 Aug 2016 14:43

Iyionaku wrote: Yélian
Miyde
[ma̯iːdə]
why

Imralu wrote: Wena
Ma i nde
what COP objective
[ˌmajˈnde]
Why

[ˌmajˈnde]

TBPO wrote: ↑21 Aug 2024 17:41

Quetzalcoatl wrote: ↑01 Jul 2024 22:39 Two coincidences about Miwonša:

(1) "Tra" is the word for "through" in both Miwonša and Esperanto. When I "invented" the word, I did not know that. I guess I must have learnt some Esperanto 20 years ago, forgotten everything that I had learned, but the word "tra" must have stuck somehow in my memory. However, when I decided that "tra" would be the word for "through" in MIwonša, I did not remember that it was also used in Esperanto.

(2) "Prokto" (one of the oldest words in Miwonša) is the word for "even" (as in "I do not have only one car, I have EVEN two cars!). When I invented the word, I did not know that "prokto" sounds a lot like "proctologist". I was so young at that time that I did not even know what a proctologist does :) Recently I have been thinking about whether I should change the word, but then I decided against it because every natural language has words that sound funny or weird in other languages.

Thus, the Miwonšan word for "even" (prokto) has nothing to do with proctology, just like the Swedish word "fart" doesn't mean "fart" in English and just like the German word "dick" is not a slang word for penis, but just means thick. It is just a pure coincidence

What proctologist to?

Pabappa wrote: ↑19 Jun 2024 13:26 i never clicked into this thread before because i figured it was about correspondences between internal and external words.