shimobaatar wrote: ↑12 Jun 2023 20:27 Alright, sorry again for the wait. Ideally, I'd like to have spent more time putting this together, but I didn't want to delay things even more. Hopefully this will be neither too easy nor too hard.
NW [ˈwĩːru] - N [əi̯nˈdʉu̯] - NE [ˌʝiːnʊˈlwaː]
W [jãĩ̯ˈroə̯] - C [ˈhei̯ndoː] - E [ɟeˈɲ̊ɔu̯]
SW [døsˈnœːry] - S [ˈzɔstr̩bi] - SE [ˈʑot͡ɕɛːf]
C = central, E = eastern, N = northern, S = southern, W = western
This 3x3 arrangement is meant to serve as a very rough "map" of where these nine related languages are currently spoken, although any historical migrations that may have taken place within this area have not been indicated.
Please let me know if there's anything you'd like me to clarify!
Quick Diachronics Challenge
Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge
Spoiler:
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge
My guess for the protoform is dwenstrib.
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge
Thank you both for your guesses! I'm going to hold off on responding in any more detail for a bit, just in case anyone else might be interested in joining this round of the game.
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge
Response to sangi39's first attempt:
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Response to Creyeditor's first attempt:
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge
My second guess is tonerwi, though I had a look at Sangi's feedback.
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge
This one's kind of off the wall.
NW [ˈwĩːru] - N [əi̯nˈdʉu̯] - NE [ˌʝiːnʊˈlwaː]
W [jãĩ̯ˈroə̯] - C [ˈhei̯ndoː] - E [ɟeˈɲ̊ɔu̯]
SW [døsˈnœːry] - S [ˈzɔstr̩bi] - SE [ˈʑot͡ɕɛːf]
NW/N/NE/W/C: wi:ndo:~hwi:ndo:
NW: wi:ndo: > wĩ:do: > wĩ:ru
N: wi:ndo: > ɯi̯nˈdu: > əi̯nˈdʉu̯
NE: wi:ndo: > ji:nˈlwa: > ˌʝi:nʊˈlwa:
W: wi:ndo: > ji:nˈdo: > jai̯nˈdoə̯ > jãĩ̯ˈroə̯
C: hwi:ndo: > hɯi̯ndo: > ˈhei̯ndoː
E/SW/S/SE: djosnr̩w
E: djosnr̩w > ɟøçˈnɛw > ɟeˈɲ̊ɔu̯
SW: djosnr̩w > døsˈnɛru > døsˈnœːry
S: djosnr̩w > ˈd͡zɔstr̩v > ˈzɔstr̩bi
SE: djosnr̩w > ˈd͡ʑossɛrv > ˈʑot͡ɕɛːf
Overall protoform: ðys.nr̩w
Proto-N: ðys.nr̩w > θy:d.nr̩w~ðy:d.nr̩w > (h)wi:dnəw > (h)wi:ndo:
Proto-S: ðys.nr̩w > ðjos.nr̩w > djos.nr̩w
NW [ˈwĩːru] - N [əi̯nˈdʉu̯] - NE [ˌʝiːnʊˈlwaː]
W [jãĩ̯ˈroə̯] - C [ˈhei̯ndoː] - E [ɟeˈɲ̊ɔu̯]
SW [døsˈnœːry] - S [ˈzɔstr̩bi] - SE [ˈʑot͡ɕɛːf]
NW/N/NE/W/C: wi:ndo:~hwi:ndo:
NW: wi:ndo: > wĩ:do: > wĩ:ru
N: wi:ndo: > ɯi̯nˈdu: > əi̯nˈdʉu̯
NE: wi:ndo: > ji:nˈlwa: > ˌʝi:nʊˈlwa:
W: wi:ndo: > ji:nˈdo: > jai̯nˈdoə̯ > jãĩ̯ˈroə̯
C: hwi:ndo: > hɯi̯ndo: > ˈhei̯ndoː
E/SW/S/SE: djosnr̩w
E: djosnr̩w > ɟøçˈnɛw > ɟeˈɲ̊ɔu̯
SW: djosnr̩w > døsˈnɛru > døsˈnœːry
S: djosnr̩w > ˈd͡zɔstr̩v > ˈzɔstr̩bi
SE: djosnr̩w > ˈd͡ʑossɛrv > ˈʑot͡ɕɛːf
Overall protoform: ðys.nr̩w
Proto-N: ðys.nr̩w > θy:d.nr̩w~ðy:d.nr̩w > (h)wi:dnəw > (h)wi:ndo:
Proto-S: ðys.nr̩w > ðjos.nr̩w > djos.nr̩w
Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge
I'll try to get a second guess in this evening. Had a bit of a busy week, haha
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge
Weeell I was wrong, and now I'm in Sheffield, lol
If you think you might want to go ahead and analyse second guesses, feel free Might be another week for me and don't want others missing out
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge
I'm honestly fine with waiting. Especially since this game doesn't typically have very many players, I'd like to make sure that everyone who's interested in participating gets the chance to do so.sangi39 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2023 19:16Weeell I was wrong, and now I'm in Sheffield, lol
If you think you might want to go ahead and analyse second guesses, feel free Might be another week for me and don't want others missing out
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge
Very tentative guess:
Edit: I also have no idea how this game works, so if I did something wrong, tell me.
Spoiler:
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2c2ef0 Ruykkarraber family Areyaxi family Arskiilz Kahóra Makihip-ŋAħual family Abisj
my garbage
she/her
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my garbage
she/her
Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge
Response to Creyeditor's second attempt:
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Response to ɶʙ ɞʛ's first attempt:
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The user formerly known as "shimobaatar".
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge
Response to Üdj's first attempt:
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Second attempt:
NW [ˈwĩːru] - N [əi̯nˈdʉu̯] - NE [ˌʝiːnʊˈlwaː]
W [jãĩ̯ˈroə̯] - C [ˈhei̯ndoː] - E [ɟeˈɲ̊ɔu̯]
SW [døsˈnœːry] - S [ˈzɔstr̩bi] - SE [ˈʑot͡ɕɛːf]
NW/N/NE/W/C = ɥi:nro: ~ ɥi:nəro:
E/SW/S/SE - ʑoɕnɛrwi
Initial proto-form: joi.ner.we:
E/SW vs S/SE seems to be a clear subgrouping, with protoforms /ɟøɕ.nɛr.wi/ for E/SW and /ʑoɕ.tɛr.vi/ for S/SE.
NW [ˈwĩːru] - N [əi̯nˈdʉu̯] - NE [ˌʝiːnʊˈlwaː]
W [jãĩ̯ˈroə̯] - C [ˈhei̯ndoː] - E [ɟeˈɲ̊ɔu̯]
SW [døsˈnœːry] - S [ˈzɔstr̩bi] - SE [ˈʑot͡ɕɛːf]
NW/N/NE/W/C = ɥi:nro: ~ ɥi:nəro:
E/SW/S/SE - ʑoɕnɛrwi
Initial proto-form: joi.ner.we:
Spoiler:
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Attempt #2:
Reasoning:
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Proud member of the myopic-trans-southerner-Viossa-girl-with-two-cats-who-joined-on-September-6th-2022 gang
2c2ef0 Ruykkarraber family Areyaxi family Arskiilz Kahóra Makihip-ŋAħual family Abisj
my garbage
she/her
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my garbage
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge
/bump
Just making sure that we can revive the challenge at some point.
Just making sure that we can revive the challenge at some point.
Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge
My response to a recent PM about this thread:
It shouldn't be too much longer.I was originally just trying to wait a bit before responding to the latest guesses in order to give anyone else who might be interested in the game a chance to join (wishful thinking on my part TBH), but then I unexpectedly got very busy with IRL/offline stuff for the past few months & lost track of time. That thread has actually been on my mind again recently, though, so fingers crossed that I'll be able to respond to your guesses soon. Thank you for your continued interest in playing.
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Response to ɶʙ ɞʛ's second attempt:
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