Word-Final <r> in Portuguese
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Word-Final <r> in Portuguese
In Duolingo, I've been occasionally hearing word-final <r> as something like [ɕ]. Any ideas why? Is this how it's supposed to sound?
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Re: Word-Final <r> in Portuguese
Popped up Duolingo Portuguese to test, and no, the word final /r/ appears as [x], which is, to my knowledge, fairly standard for Brazilian Portuguese. It might be a little bit more front than the typical uvulo-velar [x̠] I hear most English speakers use for /x/, but it's definitely a velar fricative
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Re: Word-Final <r> in Portuguese
My Brazilian Portuguese-speaking friend just doesn't even pronounce word-final /r/ (with the exception of a following word beginning with a vowel). Maybe that's considered non-standard, though.
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Re: Word-Final <r> in Portuguese
Okay, thank you!qwed117 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2022 17:06 Popped up Duolingo Portuguese to test, and no, the word final /r/ appears as [x], which is, to my knowledge, fairly standard for Brazilian Portuguese. It might be a little bit more front than the typical uvulo-velar [x̠] I hear most English speakers use for /x/, but it's definitely a velar fricative
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Re: Word-Final <r> in Portuguese
In my experience as a non-native speaker of Brazilian Portuguese, [x] as a realization of the coda rhotic is strongly associated with the carioca or fluminense dialect of Rio de Janeiro. The variety which I speak, that of urban São Paulo, typically realizes coda /r/ as [ɾ~ɹ], although final /r/ is almost always dropped in infinitives. Other accents have other allophones—the speech of the Northeast typically uses [h], while rural São Paulo is known for its preference for [ɹ]—and, while there is no de facto standard accent for spoken Brazilian Portuguese, there is a definite preference for the accents of the urban Southeast.
天含青海道。城頭月千里。
/tʰiæn ɣɑm tsʰieŋ.hɑ́i dʱɑ́u ‖ ʑʱeŋ dʱəu ᵑgyæɾ tsʰiæn lí/
The sky swallows the road to Kokonor. On the Great Wall, a thousand miles of moonlight.
—/lí ɣɑ̀/ (李賀), tr. A. C. Graham
/tʰiæn ɣɑm tsʰieŋ.hɑ́i dʱɑ́u ‖ ʑʱeŋ dʱəu ᵑgyæɾ tsʰiæn lí/
The sky swallows the road to Kokonor. On the Great Wall, a thousand miles of moonlight.
—/lí ɣɑ̀/ (李賀), tr. A. C. Graham
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Re: Word-Final <r> in Portuguese
Thanks again. The tap seems more like what I hear when I hear it spoken by actual native speakers (not on Duolingo).
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