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What is the Multiverse of Eyilunas?
The Multiverse of Eyilunas is a reimagining of the Ultraman Series’s Multiverse (https://ultra.fandom.com/wiki/Multiverse) featuring additional Kaiju from the Godzilla, King Kong, and Gamera Franchises.

The Multiverse of Eyilunas was formed from the remains of Eyilunas, a primordial goddess whose death caused the Separation of the Primordial Powers, and is held in a sustainable condition by the metagravitational energy of the Multiverse Firmament, a high-energy object which exists at the center of the Heart of the Multiverse, an infinite-dimensional space wherein the multiple universes of the Multiverse of Eyilunas exist. Depending on the method of entry to the Heart of the Multiverse, it will appear as any of a variety of different forms.

Furthermore, Multiverse of Eyilunas consists of 16 true universes and 1 rogue universe, with a rogue universe being defined as a true universe that once existed on its own but has since become part of a multiverse.

Primordial Powers
The aforementioned Primordial Powers are very significant: consisting primarily of Light, Chaos, and Darkness, these are not mere forms of energy, but the extremes on a vast spectrum of energies which exist in all life to varying degrees. Furthermore, the existence of the Primordial Powers keeps the Multiverse Firmament functioning: without these powers, the Multiverse of Eyilunas would collapse upon itself.

As mentioned, Light, Chaos, and Darkness are the main Primordial Powers, but there are two additional powers that originate from the Multiverse of Eyilunas’s singular rogue universe: Unity and Conflict.

Universes
Central Universe
The universe that most of the stories in the Multiverse of Eyilunas take place in. It is a semi-massively reworked version of the “World of the Land of Light” from Ultraman.

U40 Power Universe
The universe where the U40 Ultras come from. It is a slightly reworked version of the “Planet Ultra U40 World” from Ultraman.

Giants of Light Universe
The universe that Ultraman Tiga and Ultraman Dyna originate from. It is a slightly reworked version of the “World of Neo Frontier Space” from Ultraman.

Earth Guardians Universe
The universe that Ultraman Gaia and Ultraman Agul originate from. It is a slightly reworked version of the “World of Ultraman Gaia” from Ultraman.

Cosmo Space Universe
The universe that Ultraman Cosmos and Ultraman Justice originate from. It is a slightly reworked version of the “World of Cosmo Space” from Ultraman.

Nexus of Souls Universe
The universe that Ultraman Noa originates from. It is a slightly reworked version of the “World of N” from Ultraman.

Belial Galactic Empire Universe
The universe where Ultraman Belial temporarily conquered several galaxies. It is a slightly reworked version of the “Another Space World” from Ultraman.

Future Earth Universe
The universe that Alien Bat Tarnemyx’s maternal grandfather nearly exterminated humanity via his Hyper Zetton plot. It is a slightly reworked version of the “Future Earth World” from Ultraman.

Dark Spark Universe
The universe that the Dark Spark War occurred in. It is a slightly reworked version of the “World Where The Spark Dolls Fell” from Ultraman.

Ultra Flare Universe
The universe that Ultraman X’s human host Daichi Oozora originated from. It is a slightly reworked version of the “World of the Ultra Flare” from Ultraman.

Kanon Tree Universe
The universe that Planet Kanon is located in. It is a slightly reworked version of the “World of Planet Kanon” from Ultraman.

Maga Crisis Universe
The universe that Planet O-50 is located in. It is a slightly reworked version of the “World of Planet O-50” from Ultraman.

Crisis Impact Universe
The universe that Ultraman Geed is from. It is a slightly reworked version of the “World of Side Space” from Ultraman.

Ayaka Meteor Universe
The universe where Ultraman Rosso and Blu once became the Ayaka Meteor in ancient times. It is a slightly reworked version of the “Ayaka City Earth World” from Ultraman.

Parallel Earth Universe
The universe where the New Generation Heroes fought a weakened Grimdo on Earth and won. It is a slightly reworked version of the “Parralel Earth World” from Ultraman.

Elemental War Universe
The universe where the Q56 Ultras come from. It is an extremely massively reworked version of the “World of the Land of Light” from Ultraman.

Absolute Lord Universe
The universe where the Absolutians come from. It is an extremely massively reworked version of the “World of the Land of Light” from Ultraman. It is the Multiverse of Eyilunas’s one rogue universe.

Kaiju - What are their interactions with each other and with other species like?
As mentioned at the start, Kaiju from the Ultraman Series, Godzilla Franchise, King Kong Franchise, and Gamera Franchise are all featured in the Multiverse of Eyilunas. Yet, despite this, the Multiverse model shown is solely that of the Ultraman Series, so how do the Kaiju from all of these other franchises coexist with the Ultra Kaiju? Additionally, ignoring the franchise shenanigans, how do Kaiju interact with other species, including human civilization?

Kaiju Interspecies Interactions
The most important thing to note is that all Kaiju are merely giant animals: the word may translate from Japanese to English as “monster”, but in the Multiverse of Eyilunas, the term was merely chosen as a comment on their size. As such, some species will interact vastly differently from others, and even within a singular species, the interactions can be varied.

That said, fully sapient Kaiju are not particularly uncommon: even the least intelligent Kaiju species have an EQ between 0.8 and 0.9, putting them on par with horses and sheep, with some species being terrifyingly high in terms of their EQ ranking.
For example, in the Ghidorah genus, Timorrexus, the Keizer Ghidorahs have one of the highest intelligence of any reptilian species in the Central Universe at an astonishing EQ of 26.8, as such making them more intelligent than humans, who only have an EQ ranging between 7.4 and 7.8.

However, even without their high intelligence and the fact that Kaiju are indistinguishable from other animals in everything except their size, the interactions between Kaiju and other species would still be extremely complex, as it often depends on the specific category of Kaiju being regarded. Though more than two types of Kaiju exist, the main two categories to consider when regarding interactions are:
—‘Conventional’ Kaiju,
—and Titan-Class Kaiju.

Conventional Kaiju
Conventional Kaiju are generally able to be defined as your normal Ultra Kaiju: Gomora, Red King, Black King, Gudon, Twin Tail, Neronga, Birdon, Golza, et cetera. As such, they have a very loose definition, though two things are certain:
—Anything considered a Kaiju that starts off as something else is not considered a ‘conventional Kaiju’ by the Multiverse of Eyilunas, it’s considered a Titanofauna or Titanoflora.
—All Kaiju in the Multiverse of Eyilunas are capable of metabolically synthesizing incredible amounts of energy from ridiculously small amounts of material.

That said, as far as interspecies relations are concerned, Titanofauna and Titanoflora could easily be grouped into the same category as conventional Kaiju. As such, they will be grouped here.

Regardless, relations between humanity and conventional Kaiju and how they shifted over time to reach a certain point are typically similar to those in the Central Universe, albeit with the different phases taking place at different times.

For example, in the Central Universe, when Kaiju first started appearing in modern civilization in 1966, humanity tried to keep Kaiju under control by having specially-equipped, militarized forces kill any that would start to become a threat to infrastructure, with this approach becoming fully integrated into society by 1996, the year when the original Ultraman first appeared on Earth.

As for the fully sapient species, such as those of the Timorrexus and Godzillasaurus genus, there’s typically a distant yet very tense coexistence with the hostile societies and a more peaceful alliance with the non hostile ones, though other relations are also quite common.

Titan-Class Kaiju
Despite the name, Titan-Class Kaiju are not exceptionally large Kaiju. There’s a host of differences between them and conventional Kaiju, but the main one is that Titan-Class Kaiju are conventional Kaiju that have, through the natural processes of evolution, gained the ability to navigate through the series of wormholes within a spacetime phenomena known as a “Vile Vortex” (which are basically gravitationally-dense space time distortions that exist at the cores of some planets and act as a means of entering Hollow Earth-type pocket dimensions) to reach any destination they desire.

Conventional Kaiju, on the other hand, generally can’t navigate Vile Vortices unless they have some sort of aid in the form of an artificial enhancement, but even then, they’d have to be able to generate propulsion for flight to get through a Vile Vortex’s wormholes due to the nature of said wormholes.

However, the most important distinction between Titan-Class Kaiju and conventional Kaiju to take into account when discussing interspecies relations between humanity and Kaiju is the fact that Titan-Class Kaiju possess a connection to a naturally-occurring metaphysical force known as the “Equilibrium of Nature” or “Natural Equilibrium”, which is basically a metaphysical force akin to the concept of ‘Mother Nature’ in some ways, that makes all Titan-Class Kaiju enforcers of ‘balance in nature’ and grants them virtually limitless energy, with the metabolism in an average Titan-Class Kaiju being several times more advanced than that of their closest conventional Kaiju relatives.

Regardless, Titan-Class Kaiju are capable of sapient thought independent of the Natural Equilibrium, making it so that Titan-Class Kaiju don’t, for lack of a better term, agree on the means of enforcing nature’s balance. As such, there are some that enforce through destruction of threats and some that enforce through other means, ranging from intimidation to control.

There are also what are generally individuals known as “Alphas” among the Titan-Class Kaiju, who use low-tone bioacoustic frequencies known as “Alpha Frequencies” to communicate with the Titan-Class Kaiju of their homeworld. These frequencies can be heard by virtually any Kaiju species, but can generally only be understood by Kaiju species (including conventional and Titan-Class Kaiju) from the homeworld of the Titan-Class Kaiju individual emitting the frequencies.

Generally, humanity groups Titan-Class Kaiju individuals into one of three groups: Destroyers, Protectors, or Neutrals. Within this system, Humanity usually allies themselves with protector Titan-Class Kaiju to keep the destroyer and neutral Titan-Class Kaiju under control.

Combat Robots / Mechs
While typically developed initially as a means of combating Kaiju, combat robots / mechs are also used by humanity as a means of interacting with Kaiju.

Addressing the Multi-Franchise Multiverse
There are multiple different ways in which the multiple franchises within the Multiverse of Eyilunas exist together. By far the most common explanation is that they have always been a part of the universe they inhabit but did not start affecting events until after a certain point. However, there are other ways in the Multiverse of Eyilunas.

For example, there’s example of the Central Universe’s Godzilla’s backstory: he comes from the Ethereal Void, another dimension that was once bound within the Central Universe’s time stream but has since been absorbed into other dimensions within the Central Universe, displacing Godzilla and many other Kaiju across the Central Universe’s many other dimensions.

Links
Old Threads
https://cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8032
https://cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8038
https://cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8040
https://cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8049
https://cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8078
https://cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8083
https://cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8138
https://cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8155
https://cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8186

Updates
https://cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=333030#p333030
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GodzillaLouise wrote: 14 Jun 2024 01:46 What is the Multiverse of Eyilunas?
The Multiverse of Eyilunas is a reimagining of the Ultraman Series’s Multiverse (https://ultra.fandom.com/wiki/Multiverse) featuring additional Kaiju from the Godzilla, King Kong, and Gamera Franchises.

The Multiverse of Eyilunas was formed from the remains of Eyilunas, a primordial goddess whose death caused the Separation of the Primordial Powers, and is held in a sustainable condition by the metagravitational energy of the Multiverse Firmament, a high-energy object which exists at the center of the Heart of the Multiverse, an infinite-dimensional space wherein the multiple universes of the Multiverse of Eyilunas exist. Depending on the method of entry to the Heart of the Multiverse, it will appear as any of a variety of different forms.

Furthermore, Multiverse of Eyilunas consists of 16 true universes and 1 rogue universe, with a rogue universe being defined as a true universe that once existed on its own but has since become part of a multiverse.
Maybe I'm dense, but wouldn't that make the Multiverse of Eyilunas consist of 17 rogue universes?
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Keenir wrote: 14 Jun 2024 04:31
GodzillaLouise wrote: 14 Jun 2024 01:46 What is the Multiverse of Eyilunas?
The Multiverse of Eyilunas is a reimagining of the Ultraman Series’s Multiverse (https://ultra.fandom.com/wiki/Multiverse) featuring additional Kaiju from the Godzilla, King Kong, and Gamera Franchises.

The Multiverse of Eyilunas was formed from the remains of Eyilunas, a primordial goddess whose death caused the Separation of the Primordial Powers, and is held in a sustainable condition by the metagravitational energy of the Multiverse Firmament, a high-energy object which exists at the center of the Heart of the Multiverse, an infinite-dimensional space wherein the multiple universes of the Multiverse of Eyilunas exist. Depending on the method of entry to the Heart of the Multiverse, it will appear as any of a variety of different forms.

Furthermore, Multiverse of Eyilunas consists of 16 true universes and 1 rogue universe, with a rogue universe being defined as a true universe that once existed on its own but has since become part of a multiverse.
Maybe I'm dense, but wouldn't that make the Multiverse of Eyilunas consist of 17 rogue universes?
No. The key thing to note is that the 16 true universes have always been part of the Multiverse of Eyilunas, while its 1 rogue universe was once independent, existing entirely on its own, and just basically “moved in” with the other universes when it became a rogue universe.

Another way to explain it is that the Multiverse of Eyilunas is part of a larger setting: something of a higher order than a multiverse, wherein a multiverse is defined as a cluster of universes. Basically, think of the Multiverse of Eyilunas as being akin to a solar system: the Multiverse Firmament is the star at the center, the true universes are the planets orbiting around it, and the rogue universe simply was a rogue planet that wandered into the Multiverse of Eyilunas.
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I'm not much into Japanese media but this looks interesting.

Fandom is a terrible site though.

I'm still curious about how humans and kaiju coexist, especially given your previous mentions of sapient kaiju.
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lurker wrote: 15 Jun 2024 22:37 I'm not much into Japanese media but this looks interesting.

Fandom is a terrible site though.

I'm still curious about how humans and kaiju coexist, especially given your previous mentions of sapient kaiju.
Fandom’s the only site that I felt had a decent enough profile of the Ultraman Series’s entire multiverse for use in this.

As for the Kaiju coexistence question, it’s actually pretty complicated to answer, as there’s a bunch of subcategories of Kaiju and Kaiju-like beings. For example, on Earth alone, you’ve got:
—‘Conventional’ Kaiju,
—Superfauna/Superflora,
—Titanofauna/Titanoflora,
—and Titan-Class Kaiju.
Not to mention all the bioweapons, Choju, and such that are used by the various hostile alien races and extradimensional invaders.

But yeah, the reason I left out any mention of Kaiju and how they affect the world initially was to make it so I could get the megathread up quicker. However, at this point, I’ll write an extra section to add to it so I can explain how humans and Kaiju coexist in more detail.
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GodzillaLouise wrote: 16 Jun 2024 00:53
lurker wrote: 15 Jun 2024 22:37 I'm not much into Japanese media but this looks interesting.

Fandom is a terrible site though.

I'm still curious about how humans and kaiju coexist, especially given your previous mentions of sapient kaiju.
Fandom’s the only site that I felt had a decent enough profile of the Ultraman Series’s entire multiverse for use in this.

As for the Kaiju coexistence question, it’s actually pretty complicated to answer, as there’s a bunch of subcategories of Kaiju and Kaiju-like beings. For example, on Earth alone, you’ve got:
—‘Conventional’ Kaiju,
—Superfauna/Superflora,
—Titanofauna/Titanoflora,
—and Titan-Class Kaiju.
Not to mention all the bioweapons, Choju, and such that are used by the various hostile alien races and extradimensional invaders.

But yeah, the reason I left out any mention of Kaiju and how they affect the world initially was to make it so I could get the megathread up quicker. However, at this point, I’ll write an extra section to add to it so I can explain how humans and Kaiju coexist in more detail.
Very interesting. It's up to you if you want to update the OP or keep adding new posts, but if people are subscribed to this thread they'll only get notified when you make new posts, not when you update old ones.

If kaiju are already giant, I wonder what Titan-Class kaiju are like.

As for coexistence, one of the interests that drives my own project is how creatures with a nonhumanoid body plan (or vastly different size in your case) would make tools, weapons, buildings, and vehicles. I call it xenoergonomics. I'm no engineer, so the solutions I come up with probably fail a bunch of sniff tests, but I enjoy speculating nonetheless.

If there are more-or-less reasonable sapient kaiju, perhaps we could use mechs to interact with them, like the original Men in Black movie, but with humans as the smaller species.
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lurker wrote: 16 Jun 2024 01:41
GodzillaLouise wrote: 16 Jun 2024 00:53
lurker wrote: 15 Jun 2024 22:37 I'm not much into Japanese media but this looks interesting.

Fandom is a terrible site though.

I'm still curious about how humans and kaiju coexist, especially given your previous mentions of sapient kaiju.
Fandom’s the only site that I felt had a decent enough profile of the Ultraman Series’s entire multiverse for use in this.

As for the Kaiju coexistence question, it’s actually pretty complicated to answer, as there’s a bunch of subcategories of Kaiju and Kaiju-like beings. For example, on Earth alone, you’ve got:
—‘Conventional’ Kaiju,
—Superfauna/Superflora,
—Titanofauna/Titanoflora,
—and Titan-Class Kaiju.
Not to mention all the bioweapons, Choju, and such that are used by the various hostile alien races and extradimensional invaders.

But yeah, the reason I left out any mention of Kaiju and how they affect the world initially was to make it so I could get the megathread up quicker. However, at this point, I’ll write an extra section to add to it so I can explain how humans and Kaiju coexist in more detail.
Very interesting. It's up to you if you want to update the OP or keep adding new posts, but if people are subscribed to this thread they'll only get notified when you make new posts, not when you update old ones.

If kaiju are already giant, I wonder what Titan-Class kaiju are like.

As for coexistence, one of the interests that drives my own project is how creatures with a nonhumanoid body plan (or vastly different size in your case) would make tools, weapons, buildings, and vehicles. I call it xenoergonomics. I'm no engineer, so the solutions I come up with probably fail a bunch of sniff tests, but I enjoy speculating nonetheless.

If there are more-or-less reasonable sapient kaiju, perhaps we could use mechs to interact with them, like the original Men in Black movie, but with humans as the smaller species.
Good to know about the updating vs adding thing. In that case, I suppose I’ll do this first update as an update to the OP, then the rest as whatever works for me and/or the forum at the time.
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GodzillaLouise wrote: 16 Jun 2024 01:56 Good to know about the updating vs adding thing. In that case, I suppose I’ll do this first update as an update to the OP, then the rest as whatever works for me and/or the forum at the time.
Some users use the OP as an index or table of contents, and update it with links to later entries in the thread as they are posted. I don't believe there's a time limit to editing posts, including the OP. This makes it easier for newcomers to find information, and allows other users to post comments without fear of drowning out your lore posts since anything you think is consequential is linked in the OP.
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At this point, I’ve been working on this post quite a while. I’ve mentioned the basics of virtually everything else, so I should probably talk about the Ultras / Ultramen, and define who/what they are.

The Ultras are a species of Kaiju-sized, humanoid aliens who collectively serve as the foundation of the Multiverse of Eyilunas’s continuity. They are protectors of a variety of civilizations and typically have advanced societies similar to our own but with physical capabilities far outclassing mankind, including but not limited to:
—Enhanced Strength
—Enhanced Agility
—Enhanced Durability
—Psychic Powers
—Size Alteration
—Dimensional Physics Manipulation
—Energy Projectile/Attack Utilization
——Ultra Beams
——Light Bullets

Of these, Energy Attack Utilization is the most important superpower that all Ultras possess to discuss right now.

Specium is a chemical compound with the chemical formula M2SH3GWaB2, and serves as the internal energy source of the energy projectiles used by the Ultras, as well as the basis of all the different types of energy used in said beams. For example, Emerium, another common compound used by Ultras, has a very similar formula of M2SH3GWaB, while another common compound, Zeperion, has a formula of Da2M4S2H3GWa2AaB3.

Using Specium as an example, it is made up of several fictional naturally-occurring superheavy elements, including Moshnanesson (M), Garitricium (G), and Varsanikium (Wa), all of which have atomic numbers around/over 200 (Moshnanesson being 198, Garitricium being 201, and Varsanikium being 219), yet is only about as radioactive as Gold-197. Furthermore, Specium is a crystalline/glass-like substance similar in appearance to amethyst or other types of quartz when in environments without an atmosphere or with a very weak atmosphere, yet evaporates into a slightly more radioactive plasma with a typically-colorless glow when it is introduced to an atmosphere.

As mentioned before, Specium is the basis of all Ultra energy projectile attacks, though how it actually functions in a beam is far beyond me, considering Specium and its derivatives, in nearly all cases, cause large scale, albeit typically non-nuclear, explosions that have often been known as “finishers” for their potential to one-shot Kaiju.
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GodzillaLouise wrote: 27 Jun 2024 01:30 Using Specium as an example, it is made up of several fictional naturally-occurring superheavy elements, including Moshnanesson (M), Garitricium (G), and Varsanikium (Wa), all of which have atomic numbers around/over 200 (Moshnanesson being 198, Garitricium being 201, and Varsanikium being 219), yet is only about as radioactive as Gold-197.
Looking back on this, I see this as fairly dumb and… unspecific. Not to mention I thought Gold-197 was radioactive when it’s the one isotope of Gold that isn’t radioactive.

That said, Specium is still a compound consisting partly of extremely radioactive superheavy elements with far less radioactivity than the elements that make it up. So, I’m going to discuss specium again, though this time, I’ll be more specific.

First up, Specium’s primary decay mode is a fictional exotic decay mode denoted as Ω+: Omega Plus Decay. For reference, in all radioactive elements and radioisotopes that decay this way, the process of Omega Plus Decay emits an Omega Particle (basically a phosphorus nucleus but with 1 less neutron - so 15 protons, 15 neutrons) from the nuclei.

As for Specium’s half-life… Given the nature of the fact I’m leaning towards the idea of it being synthesized from Eyilunas’s death (which is basically the Big Bang for the Multiverse of Eyilunas), I don’t really know what it would be. However, for the sake of giving something specific, I’ll go with 32.65 Billion Years.

Lastly is Specium’s toxicity and range, as far as being a radioactive compound is concerned. In all honesty, I don’t know how to measure the toxicity exactly, so I’ll just say that that’s rather low. The Specium Ray, in the canon my stories are based on, never seemed to carry particularly toxic amounts of radiation, so I can’t say much that I’d expect my version of the Specium crystal to be. However, for Specium’s range, I’d compare an omega particle’s range to that of gamma decay, if not very slightly higher.

Anyway, I’m going to leave my reevaluation of how radioactive my take on Specium is at that point.
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Ok, here’s my first question I’ll be asking on the megathread. It’s a bit disconnected to what’s been discussed so far, but… here goes: how could I go about making the languages of the Homo mosuranensis (aka the Mothra Islanders) feel ‘alien’, given what I already have?

The question may seem odd, as it’d be assumable that Mothra Islands are located on Earth, which is a correct assumption, but despite being part of the same genus as us, the Homo mosuranensis have developed a method of communication that is quite outside the ordinary for apes of any kind: telepathy, possible via the projection of their thoughts into photon-based electromagnetic waves that can be picked up by Mothra and by other mosuranensis.

Now, I imagine the reason that Shakoljeinese (the only Homo mosuranensis tribal language that I currently plan to make a doc for) is so strange, is because the Homo mosuranensis do not normally speak verbally: they speak via the telepathy I just described. However, the point of this is to enable me to make it feel like that’s truly the case with Shakorjeinese: like it’s not their primary method of communication.


Furthermore, the problem I face with the whole “given what I already have” part of the question isn’t actually much. It mostly just comes down to the Shakorjeinese names for Mothra and for Mothra Leo: “Mosu Ra”, and “Mō’Sül Ral Ly’Ēyoh”. In my stories, those names are where both Mothra and Mothra Leo get their Japanese and English names, so let’s break those Shakorjeinese names.

“Mosu” means “Guardian”. “Ra” means “Goddess”. Thus, “Mosu Ra” means “Guardian Goddess”.

“Mōs” means “Beloved”. “Sül” means “Child”. “Ral” means “Of” and “Lyé” means “The”. “Èyoh” means Sun”. From there, “Mō’Sül Ral Ly’Ēyoh” means “Beloved Child of the Sun”.

So my problem is mainly that the word order is already the very common SVO, as seen above. Morphology does seem to be a bit interesting here, at least to me, but I digress.

So, how would I go about making such a normal language feel like it’s so alien, and is not the primary method of communication used by the very people that speak it?
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GodzillaLouise wrote: 10 Jul 2024 03:23 Ok, here’s my first question I’ll be asking on the megathread. It’s a bit disconnected to what’s been discussed so far, but… here goes: how could I go about making the languages of the Homo mosuranensis (aka the Mothra Islanders) feel ‘alien’, given what I already have?
I answered most of this in the other thread, but there is this:
The question may seem odd, as it’d be assumable that Mothra Islands are located on Earth, which is a correct assumption, but despite being part of the same genus as us, the Homo mosuranensis have developed a method of communication that is quite outside the ordinary for apes of any kind: telepathy, possible via the projection of their thoughts into photon-based electromagnetic waves that can be picked up by Mothra and by other mosuranensis.
Well, first you need to change physics. :D

seriously, photons are not part of the electromagnetic spectrum...at least, they weren't back when I was in school.
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Keenir wrote: 10 Jul 2024 05:47
Well, first you need to change physics. :D

seriously, photons are not part of the electromagnetic spectrum...at least, they weren't back when I was in school.
Wait, what? I thought all electro-magnetic radiation (=emr) consists of photons. From Wikipedia
In quantum mechanics, an alternate way of viewing EMR is that it consists of photons,[...]
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Re: Multiverse of Eyilunas Megathread

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Creyeditor wrote: 10 Jul 2024 09:33
Keenir wrote: 10 Jul 2024 05:47
Well, first you need to change physics. :D

seriously, photons are not part of the electromagnetic spectrum...at least, they weren't back when I was in school.
Wait, what? I thought all electro-magnetic radiation (=emr) consists of photons. From Wikipedia
In quantum mechanics, an alternate way of viewing EMR is that it consists of photons,[...]
well, for one, wiki. :D

for two, I know next to nothing about quantum mechanics (at most, I am passably familiar with "action at a distance")

three...what I learned in school was the old "light can be a wave or a particle, but never both at once"...do photons count as a particle?

sorry.
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Re: Multiverse of Eyilunas Megathread

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So, this may sound like a bit of an interesting question, but based on what I’ve stated about Ultra Beams and Specium previously, is there any way that “Scioms”, a fictional unit I’ve created for my stories, could be used to measure the potency of an Ultra Beam in any meaningful sense?

For reference, a Sciom is defined as being equal to 1 Kirks per Varsanik, with Kirks being a unit of Power Density equal to 15 Megawatts per Cubic Meter and Varsaniks being a unit equal to 1 Rem per Cubic Nanometer.

Furthermore, is there even any real world unit that is used to measure the same quantity that Scioms would be used for? To be clear, I ask this second question purely out of curiosity.
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GodzillaLouise wrote: 16 Jul 2024 03:36 So, this may sound like a bit of an interesting question, but based on what I’ve stated about Ultra Beams and Specium previously, is there any way that “Scioms”, a fictional unit I’ve created for my stories, could be used to measure the potency of an Ultra Beam in any meaningful sense?

For reference, a Sciom is defined as being equal to 1 Kirks per Varsanik, with Kirks being a unit of Power Density equal to 15 Megawatts per Cubic Meter and Varsaniks being a unit equal to 1 Rem per Cubic Nanometer.

Furthermore, is there even any real world unit that is used to measure the same quantity that Scioms would be used for? To be clear, I ask this second question purely out of curiosity.
I’ve changed up the Sciom’s definition to be slightly less complex now, as I do ultimately know that no one unit can be used to quantify everything occurring in an Ultra Beam. Regardless, 1 Sciom will now be equal to 1 Kirk per Cubic Nanometer, or 15 Megawatts per Cubic Meter per Cubic Nanometer.
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GodzillaLouise wrote: 17 Jul 2024 00:37 I’ve changed up the Sciom’s definition to be slightly less complex now, as I do ultimately know that no one unit can be used to quantify everything occurring in an Ultra Beam. Regardless, 1 Sciom will now be equal to 1 Kirk per Cubic Nanometer, or 15 Megawatts per Cubic Meter per Cubic Nanometer.
Ok, I’ve decided what Scioms are used to measure. As stated on my document for the Sciom unit: “the Sciom is a non-SI unit of ‘Power Microdensity’ which is commonly used as a means for measuring the hypothetical maximum Power Output per Power Density of any Ultra Beam.”

In other words (and this is probably the more accurate way to word it), Scioms are used to measure how much an Ultra’s Ultra Beam’s power output can be increased by condensing the power into a smaller volume while keeping the total area of the beam the same.

Question I have now is, given a Sciom is technically equal to 15 Megawatts per Cubic Meter per Cubic Nanometer, would that be a reasonable or believable usage of such a unit?
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GodzillaLouise wrote: 17 Jul 2024 02:51
GodzillaLouise wrote: 17 Jul 2024 00:37 I’ve changed up the Sciom’s definition to be slightly less complex now, as I do ultimately know that no one unit can be used to quantify everything occurring in an Ultra Beam. Regardless, 1 Sciom will now be equal to 1 Kirk per Cubic Nanometer, or 15 Megawatts per Cubic Meter per Cubic Nanometer.
Ok, I’ve decided what Scioms are used to measure. As stated on my document for the Sciom unit: “the Sciom is a non-SI unit of ‘Power Microdensity’ which is commonly used as a means for measuring the hypothetical maximum Power Output per Power Density of any Ultra Beam.”

In other words (and this is probably the more accurate way to word it), Scioms are used to measure how much an Ultra’s Ultra Beam’s power output can be increased by condensing the power into a smaller volume while keeping the total area of the beam the same.

Question I have now is, given a Sciom is technically equal to 15 Megawatts per Cubic Meter per Cubic Nanometer, would that be a reasonable or believable usage of such a unit?
okay, maybe I'm missing or misunderstanding something...if you're trying to measure an Ultra Beam, why would you -- wait, let me double-check something so I don't misstep: is an Ultra Beam an actual beam?, like how a laser and the water from a fire hose are both in constant movement.
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Re: Multiverse of Eyilunas Megathread

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Keenir wrote: 17 Jul 2024 04:15
GodzillaLouise wrote: 17 Jul 2024 02:51
GodzillaLouise wrote: 17 Jul 2024 00:37 I’ve changed up the Sciom’s definition to be slightly less complex now, as I do ultimately know that no one unit can be used to quantify everything occurring in an Ultra Beam. Regardless, 1 Sciom will now be equal to 1 Kirk per Cubic Nanometer, or 15 Megawatts per Cubic Meter per Cubic Nanometer.
Ok, I’ve decided what Scioms are used to measure. As stated on my document for the Sciom unit: “the Sciom is a non-SI unit of ‘Power Microdensity’ which is commonly used as a means for measuring the hypothetical maximum Power Output per Power Density of any Ultra Beam.”

In other words (and this is probably the more accurate way to word it), Scioms are used to measure how much an Ultra’s Ultra Beam’s power output can be increased by condensing the power into a smaller volume while keeping the total area of the beam the same.

Question I have now is, given a Sciom is technically equal to 15 Megawatts per Cubic Meter per Cubic Nanometer, would that be a reasonable or believable usage of such a unit?
okay, maybe I'm missing or misunderstanding something...if you're trying to measure an Ultra Beam, why would you -- wait, let me double-check something so I don't misstep: is an Ultra Beam an actual beam?, like how a laser and the water from a fire hose are both in constant movement.
As prefaced in earlier messages, Ultra Beams are specium/plasma beams that are typically fired by Ultras upon crossing their arms to form any of a bunch of positions, including a highly iconic plus-sign-like cross at the wrists.

There’s a whole question on how exactly they work and what specium is made of, but the consensus is that yes, Ultra Beams are actual beams.
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GodzillaLouise wrote: 17 Jul 2024 04:54
Keenir wrote: 17 Jul 2024 04:15
GodzillaLouise wrote: 17 Jul 2024 02:51
GodzillaLouise wrote: 17 Jul 2024 00:37 I’ve changed up the Sciom’s definition to be slightly less complex now, as I do ultimately know that no one unit can be used to quantify everything occurring in an Ultra Beam. Regardless, 1 Sciom will now be equal to 1 Kirk per Cubic Nanometer, or 15 Megawatts per Cubic Meter per Cubic Nanometer.
Ok, I’ve decided what Scioms are used to measure. As stated on my document for the Sciom unit: “the Sciom is a non-SI unit of ‘Power Microdensity’ which is commonly used as a means for measuring the hypothetical maximum Power Output per Power Density of any Ultra Beam.”

In other words (and this is probably the more accurate way to word it), Scioms are used to measure how much an Ultra’s Ultra Beam’s power output can be increased by condensing the power into a smaller volume while keeping the total area of the beam the same.

Question I have now is, given a Sciom is technically equal to 15 Megawatts per Cubic Meter per Cubic Nanometer, would that be a reasonable or believable usage of such a unit?
okay, maybe I'm missing or misunderstanding something...if you're trying to measure an Ultra Beam, why would you -- wait, let me double-check something so I don't misstep: is an Ultra Beam an actual beam?, like how a laser and the water from a fire hose are both in constant movement.
As prefaced in earlier messages, Ultra Beams are specium/plasma beams that are typically fired by Ultras upon crossing their arms to form any of a bunch of positions, including a highly iconic plus-sign-like cross at the wrists.

There’s a whole question on how exactly they work and what specium is made of, but the consensus is that yes, Ultra Beams are actual beams.
Ok, probably not the best way to word it: basically, I’m trying to hypothesize how Specium works as a beam, and what it generally is in the canon Ultra series and apply that to my version of the world. After all, this isn’t an original world, but a fanfic world.
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