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TBPO's Scratchpad that prevents the CBB from drowning in his conlangs

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I would like to have a place where I can publish my new ideas.
Edit: Previous attempt to make Arkasian is here.
Arkasian

/p b t d k g/ p b t d k g
/f v s z x ħ h/ f v s z ch hh h
/m n ŋ/ m n nh
/l r j w/ l r y w

Stressed:
/a ɑː ɛ eː i ɔ oː u ʏ øː/ a ā e ē i o ō u ü ö
Unstressed:
/æ ɪ ɔ ʊ ʏ/ a i o u ü
inflection that nasalizes previous vowel in marked "ň".

Changes from proto-Arkan:

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One: Main Vowel Shift
a ˈa e ˈe i ˈi o ˈo u ˈu
a ɑː ɛ eː ɪ iː ɔ oː ʊ uː
VN > Ṽ

Two: Nasal Collapse
ã ɑ̃ː ɛ̃ ẽː ɪ̃ ĩː ɔ̃ õː ʊ̃ ũː
ʏ oː ʏ øː ʏ yː ɛ eː ɔ oː


Three: Stress Shift from irregular to first syllable

Four: Closed Vowel Collapsle
iː ɪ uː ʊ yː
i  i u  u øː

Five: Unstressed Vowel Collapse
a ɑː ɛ eː i ɔ oː u ʏ øː
æ ɔ  æ ɪ  ɪ ɔ ʊ  ʊ ʏ ʏ
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Re: Arkasian Nouns

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Nouns are inflected by number (singular, plural), case (nominative, oblique and partitive) and animacy (animate, inanimate). There are two paradigms: 1st and 2nd. Plural is formed by -s.

1st paradigm

INA
NOM kās sword
OBL kāsi sword
PAR kāsu of sword

ANI
NOM kōs* warrior
OBL kāsü warrior
PAR kāso of warrior

2nd paradigm

INA
NOM lūr air
OBL luri air
PAR luru of air

ANI
NOM lōr* wind
OBL lurü wind
PAR luru of wind

*ANI NOM in both paradigms are obtained by regular change of the last vowel of the root.
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I have an idea for an island language that is the result of the natives trying to imitate English. For example, ke is a mystical power that permeates the world, because once one of the natives heard an English missionary say "he needs the care", and the islander assumed that care is some kind of magical power.
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I'm currently working on northern branch of Patak family, which evolved from language with terribly small phonology.

Early Proto-Patak - simpler is impossible

Let's start with phonology:
/p t k ʔ/ p t k '
/a i u/ a i u

Extremaly isolating, SVO, head-final. Nouns, verbs, connectors, preposition(s).

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Ata! Kipat a pa Tapapau. Pa ka'a taki a u ipti. Pa utk a tiu ku' p'akt ku' a'k a pukaat a pa.
hello! name of 1P Tapapau. 1P create speak-DAT* of NEG nature. 1P do of often 3P because 3P work of favourite of 1P.
Hello! My name is Tapapau. I create artifical languages. I like this, because it's my hobby.
*derivational suffixes
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Minimal Phonology Slavic

So I also decided to create the slavic with possibly small phonology!

/p t t͡s k/ p t c k
/s ɣ/ s g
/m n l j/ m n l y
/a i u/ a i u

Changes from Proto-Slavic:
*s > c
*b, *d, *g > /β, ð, ɣ/
[+palatal] > [+alveolar]
[+voiced] > [-voiced] except /β, ð, ɣ/
*v > /w/
/β, ð/ > /w, θ/
*ě, *a > a
*r > /ʀ/ > /ʁ/ > /ɣ/
/w, θ/ > ∅, s
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Proto-Basaŋ
Northern Patak

Evolution from Proto-Patak:
[-voiced +stop] > [+voiced] / #_V
[+stop] > [+fricative] / V_V
[+stop] > [+nasal] / V_#

'[+stop] > [+stop]
[+stop]' > [+stop]
{2 the same stops} > [+nasal][+stop]
{2 different stops} > {2 voiced stops} / #_
{stop1}{stop2} > {2 times stop2}

VV > V[+approximant]

/p t k/ p t k
/b d g/ b d g
/ɸ θ x h/ f s x h
/m n ŋ/ m n ŋ
/ʁ j w/ r j w
/a i u/ a i u
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Asa! Gifas afa Dafafaw. Ba gaha daxi awitti. Ba ukkatiw gu pat gu akafuxarn afa.
hello! name of-1P Tapapau. 1P create speak-DAT* of-NEG-nature. 1P do-of-often 3P because 3P work-of-favourite of-1P.
Hello! My name is Tapapau. I create artifical languages. I like this, because it's my hobby.
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Re: TBPO Scratchpad

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TBPO wrote: 22 Jul 2024 16:47 Minimal Phonology Slavic

So I also decided to create the slavic with possibly small phonology!

/p t t͡s k/ p t c k
/s ɣ/ s g
/m n l j/ m n l y
/a i u/ a i u

Changes from Proto-Slavic:
*s > c
*b, *d, *g > /β, ð, ɣ/
[+palatal] > [+alveolar]
[+voiced] > [-voiced] except /β, ð, ɣ/
*v > /w/
/β, ð/ > /w, θ/
*ě, *a > a
*r > /ʀ/ > /ʁ/ > /ɣ/
/w, θ/ > ∅, s
Some nice ideas here, but what happened to the other vowels? *x?
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Re: TBPO Scratchpad

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Flavia wrote: 23 Jul 2024 23:26
TBPO wrote: 22 Jul 2024 16:47 Minimal Phonology Slavic

So I also decided to create the slavic with possibly small phonology!

/p t t͡s k/ p t c k
/s ɣ/ s g
/m n l j/ m n l y
/a i u/ a i u

Changes from Proto-Slavic:
*s > c
*b, *d, *g > /β, ð, ɣ/
[+palatal] > [+alveolar]
[+voiced] > [-voiced] except /β, ð, ɣ/
*v > /w/
/β, ð/ > /w, θ/
*ě, *a > a
*r > /ʀ/ > /ʁ/ > /ɣ/
/w, θ/ > ∅, s
Some nice ideas here, but what happened to the other vowels? *x?
ĭ, ŭ > ∅
e, o > i, u
iː, ɨː, uː > i, i, u
æː, ɑː > a
*x > /ɣ/
Edit: ẽː, õː > i, u
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Unnamed Conlang

/b t d k g q ʔ/ b t d k g q '
/v θ s x h/ v z s x h
/m n ŋ/ m n ņ
/l ɫ r ʁ/ l ļ r ŗ
/j w/ j w
/a ɪ ʊ ə/ a i u e
/ɑː iː uː/ á í ú
/ɪ̯ɛ ʊ̯ɔ ɪ̯o ʊ̯e/ ie uo io ue
If word has long vowels, first long is accented. Otherwise first is accented.

Ņaŗ qi báz uo?
3SG.ABSTR being good Q
Is it good?
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Pronouns

1SG hak ABS ag
2SG súļ ABS sáŗ
3SG.ANI ri ABS die
3SG.INA si ABS xe
3SG.ABSTR ņaŗ ABS naq

1PL hakí ABS agí
2PL súļí ABS sáŗí
3PL.ANI risi ABS diesi
3PL.INA sí ABS xesi
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Corrected phonology:
/b t d k g q ɢ ʔ/ b t d k g q ģ '
/β~v θ s x h/ v z s x h
/m n ŋ/ m n ņ
/l ɫ r ʀ/ l ļ r ŗ
/j w/ j w
/a ɪ ʊ ə/ a i u e/o
/ɑː iː uː/ á í ú
/ɪ̯ɛ ʊ̯ɔ ɪ̯o ʊ̯e/ ie uo io ue
/r/ is [ɾ] word-finally.
/ɢ/ is [ʁ] intervocally and word-finally.
If word has long vowels, first long is accented. Otherwise first is accented.
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Northern Dialect:
ɢ > ʁ
ɫ > l
w > v
ɪ -> i
ʊ -> u
ɪ̯ɛ -> je
ʊ̯ɔ -> vo
ɪ̯o -> jo
ʊ̯e -> ve
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Hello - Meŗban!
Goodbye! - Aļamtí!
X of Y - X ab Y

Nouns Inflection

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1. declination

SG    ERG ABS
ANI   -/  -a
INA   -a  -i
ABSTR -/ -aŗ

PL    ERG ABS
ANI   -ú  -aŗ
INA   -ah  -/
ABSTR -á -íh
Edit: human - aļ ABS aļa
humen - aļú ABS aļaŗ
rock - bíza ABS bízi
rocks - bízah ABS bíz
language - ņal ABS ņala
languages - ņalá ABS ņalíh
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History of my heartlangs #1: Pekos

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I tried many times to create my personal language, which will be language that is ideal for me. Pekos, Lan, Kago, Miba, Klatx, Tasim - history of my heartlangs is long and interesting... So let's go!*

Pekos
It was my first conlang that wasn't a relex. It was an engelang and its idea was that complex concepts are compounds of basic roots (it wasn't oligosythetic because number of basic concepts wasn't limited). Despite being an engelang, I believe that was also a personal language, because both basic roots and compounds are chosen by whether they feel right.
V1 Dustapo! Mi te fe-TBPO.
V2 Haelo! Mi te TBPO.
V3 Milos! Mite TBPO.

*I will write about one conlang per post
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History of my heartlangs #2: Lan

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Lan
Lan was one of my older conlangs. Unlike Pekos, it didn't have any goal exceot being my personal conlang. Nouns were inflected only by number, and verbs - by person, number and tense. It was so boring conlang that I abadoned it. I tried 2 times to revive Lan, but every time I get bored. This conlang was bad in general, but its phonology was so great that I decided to use it in future conlangs.
Xalo! In TBPO.
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History of my heartlangs #3 & #4

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Kago
Goal of Kago was to be light sounding and have lots of suffixes that tell you part of speech, deixis, case and case. It fulfilled its goals. Phonology is simple, light-sounding; it even didn't have a rhotic in it's beginning! (later I added silly-sounding /ɽ͡ɽ̪/). Morphology was complex, both nouns and verbs were heavily inflected. Worse: I based my case system on Ithkuil, so it had twenty-something cases! It was hard to remember to me, so I must look at tables to translate something into Kago. But it wasn't such a failure; it was a solid piece of work.
Edit: Helu! TBPOs.
Miba
One big failure. It had very simple phonemic inventory and... I abadoned it, because I realised it wasn't a heartlang.
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ɽ͡ɽ̪
TBPO wrote: 16 Aug 2024 11:48 light sounding and have lots of suffixes that tell you part of speech, deixis, and case
/ɽ͡ɽ̪/
Morphology was complex, both nouns and verbs were heavily inflected
twenty-something cases
tables
This sounds like a dream come true. I love it.
At work. Will be back.
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History of my heartlangs #5: Klatx

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Klatx
When once I was making text for death metal song, I realised that Polish has too few brutal words for to kill, so I decided that I will make the death metal conlang - Klatx. Its goals are to be harsh-sounding, have brutal vocabulary (50 words for kill!) and have simpler inflection that Kago. It had allophonic vowel harmony and inflection [word class]+[ending]. Word class (C) was like noun class but for all words (Person, Tool etc.), and ending (V) determined part of speech, person (verbs) and case (nouns). There was only 2 cases: ergative and absolutive. (I forgot how to form plurals). But word class system often disabled consonant clusters, making Klatx a little bit light-sounding. Not best conlang, but its ending system was a base of Tasim inflection.
Edit: Nixa! Esa TBPOi.
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Re: History of my heartlangs #6: Tasim

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Tasim
I decided to create new personal language, and I'm now making the sixth (and hopefully the last) heartlang - Tasim. Its goal is to be easy to memorise for me and be intuitive for me. It has consonant inventory that is easiest to pronounce for me. It has word structure stem(+derivational suffix)+ending(+post-ending). Ending determines the same as in Klatx, and post-ending determines number and tense. Stem types are new feature in my conlangs. I will post about Tasim.
Edit: Ela! Esa TBPO.
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