Cool, tonogenesis is always nice to see. What is meant by 7. V, Vː > V́, V̀? Does this mean that in words with two vowels, the first vowel becomes high tone and the second becomes low tone? Also same question about 9.TBPO wrote: ↑24 Mar 2025 17:44 Sound changes from Proto-Taric:
1. x, h → ç / _[i iː j] or [i iː]_#
2. v → j / _[i iː j] or [i iː]_#
3. v, w → w / _[o u] or [o u]_#
4. v, w → v
5. x, h, ɫ → h, ħ, ɬ
6. ç, tj, kj, sj, hj, ħj → ʃ, t͡ɕ, t͡ʃ, ɕ, ʃ, h
7. V, Vː > V́, V̀
8. V̀ → V̀V́ / _ħ
9. V̀, V́ → V̄ / word with single pitch
10. ə → ə̄
11. e, o → ɛ, ɔ
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7. Not. It means that short vowels become high pitch and long become low pitch.Dezinaa wrote: ↑26 Mar 2025 04:09Cool, tonogenesis is always nice to see. What is meant by 7. V, Vː > V́, V̀? Does this mean that in words with two vowels, the first vowel becomes high tone and the second becomes low tone? Also same question about 9.TBPO wrote: ↑24 Mar 2025 17:44 Sound changes from Proto-Taric:
1. x, h → ç / _[i iː j] or [i iː]_#
2. v → j / _[i iː j] or [i iː]_#
3. v, w → w / _[o u] or [o u]_#
4. v, w → v
5. x, h, ɫ → h, ħ, ɬ
6. ç, tj, kj, sj, hj, ħj → ʃ, t͡ɕ, t͡ʃ, ɕ, ʃ, h
7. V, Vː > V́, V̀
8. V̀ → V̀V́ / _ħ
9. V̀, V́ → V̄ / word with single pitch
10. ə → ə̄
11. e, o → ɛ, ɔ
9. It means that if /ħ/ is after a vowel with low pitch, a high pitch vowel of the same quality is inserted between them.
Re: TBPO's Scratchpad that prevents the CBB from drowning in his conlangs
List of languages in Taray:
-Arkasian (Kwiyä Akraysiyu)
-Maáhhalár/Mahhalar
-Teguš
-Arkasian (Kwiyä Akraysiyu)
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-Teguš
Re: Mahhalar Phonology
I'm redesigning Maáhhalár. Now it's just Mahhalar. It's still related to Arkasian (both languages are in Taric family).
Mahhalar Phonology
/p b t d k g/ p b t d k g
/t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ɕ/ c č ć
/s ʃ ɕ x ħ/ s š ś h hh
/m n ɲ ŋ/ m n ń ň
/l ɾ/ l r
/v~w j/ v j
/i u/ i u
/ɛ ə ɔ/ e ą o
/a/ a
Issues:
Mahhalar Phonology
/p b t d k g/ p b t d k g
/t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ɕ/ c č ć
/s ʃ ɕ x ħ/ s š ś h hh
/m n ɲ ŋ/ m n ń ň
/l ɾ/ l r
/v~w j/ v j
/i u/ i u
/ɛ ə ɔ/ e ą o
/a/ a
Issues:
- A last syllable of the root is stressed.
- /v/ is [w] non-word-finally and [f] before or after an unvoiced consonant.
- /v u ɔ/ → [ɰ ɯ ʌ] before or after /ħ/
- Unstressed non-historically-long vowels in open ultimate syllables are reduced to /ə/ except /ə/, which is removed.
- /v j ħ/ are inserted to prevent vowel hiatus.
- A stressed vowel that was not historically long can be affected by a next vowel.
Re: Mahhalar Noun Inflection
Mahhalar Noun Inflection
Mahhalar nouns inflect for the following things:
-Noun class: sessile (non-moving), motile (moving)
-Case: ergative, absolutive, genitive, allative, benefactive, malefactive
-Numbers: singular, paucal (~2-4), plural
Endings
Sessile
Motile
Vowel alternation
Mahhalar morphology is non-contatentive, which means that the inflection can affect the root. There are all root alternations (except F-roots, which never change):
Edit: ???
Edit2: inflection of word mit "person":
mitą mite miten mitenąs
mit mitąs mitąn mitąnąs
mątar mąto mąton mątonąs
mątą mątu mątun mątunąs
mitir mitirąs mitinrą mitinrąs
metaką metakas metakan metakanąs
Mahhalar nouns inflect for the following things:
-Noun class: sessile (non-moving), motile (moving)
-Case: ergative, absolutive, genitive, allative, benefactive, malefactive
-Numbers: singular, paucal (~2-4), plural
Endings
Sessile
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SESS SG PAU PL
ERG -ą -ev -e
ABS -∅ -ąv -ąs
GEN -ą -ov -o
ALL -ą -uv -u
BEN -ir -iru -irąs
MAL -(a)ką -(a)kav -(a)kas
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MOT SG PAU PL
ERG -en -enu -enąs
ABS -ąn -ąnu -ąnąs
GEN -on -onu -onąs
ALL -un -unu -unąs
BEN -inrą -inru -inrąs
MAL -(a)kan -(a)kanu -(a)kanąs
Mahhalar morphology is non-contatentive, which means that the inflection can affect the root. There are all root alternations (except F-roots, which never change):
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A E I O₁ O₂ U Ą
ERG a e i ą ą ą e
ABS a e i o o u ą
GEN ą ą ą o o u o
ALL o ą ą u o u u
BEN e i i ą ą ą i
MAL a e e o a o a
Edit2: inflection of word mit "person":
mitą mite miten mitenąs
mit mitąs mitąn mitąnąs
mątar mąto mąton mątonąs
mątą mątu mątun mątunąs
mitir mitirąs mitinrą mitinrąs
metaką metakas metakan metakanąs
Last edited by TBPO on 10 Apr 2025 16:31, edited 1 time in total.
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Proto-Arkas phonology
/p b t d k g/ *p b t d k g
/v s (sʲ) (ç) x h/ *v s sy xy x h
/m n (ɲ) ŋ/ *m n ny ng
/l ɫ r/ *l ɫ r
/j w/ *y w
/i iː u uː/ *i ī u ū
/e eː ə o oː/ *é ē e o ō
/a aː ɒ ɒː/ *a ā ao āo
/p b t d k g/ *p b t d k g
/v s (sʲ) (ç) x h/ *v s sy xy x h
/m n (ɲ) ŋ/ *m n ny ng
/l ɫ r/ *l ɫ r
/j w/ *y w
/i iː u uː/ *i ī u ū
/e eː ə o oː/ *é ē e o ō
/a aː ɒ ɒː/ *a ā ao āo