TBPO's Scratchpad that prevents the CBB from drowning in his conlangs

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Re: TBPO's Scratchpad that prevents the CBB from drowning in his conlangs

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TBPO wrote: 24 Mar 2025 17:44 Sound changes from Proto-Taric:
1. x, h → ç / _[i iː j] or [i iː]_#
2. v → j / _[i iː j] or [i iː]_#
3. v, w → w / _[o u] or [o u]_#
4. v, w → v
5. x, h, ɫ → h, ħ, ɬ
6. ç, tj, kj, sj, hj, ħj → ʃ, t͡ɕ, t͡ʃ, ɕ, ʃ, h
7. V, Vː > V́, V̀
8. V̀ → V̀V́ / _ħ
9. V̀, V́ → V̄ / word with single pitch
10. ə → ə̄
11. e, o → ɛ, ɔ
Cool, tonogenesis is always nice to see. What is meant by 7. V, Vː > V́, V̀? Does this mean that in words with two vowels, the first vowel becomes high tone and the second becomes low tone? Also same question about 9.
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Re: TBPO's Scratchpad that prevents the CBB from drowning in his conlangs

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Dezinaa wrote: 26 Mar 2025 04:09
TBPO wrote: 24 Mar 2025 17:44 Sound changes from Proto-Taric:
1. x, h → ç / _[i iː j] or [i iː]_#
2. v → j / _[i iː j] or [i iː]_#
3. v, w → w / _[o u] or [o u]_#
4. v, w → v
5. x, h, ɫ → h, ħ, ɬ
6. ç, tj, kj, sj, hj, ħj → ʃ, t͡ɕ, t͡ʃ, ɕ, ʃ, h
7. V, Vː > V́, V̀
8. V̀ → V̀V́ / _ħ
9. V̀, V́ → V̄ / word with single pitch
10. ə → ə̄
11. e, o → ɛ, ɔ
Cool, tonogenesis is always nice to see. What is meant by 7. V, Vː > V́, V̀? Does this mean that in words with two vowels, the first vowel becomes high tone and the second becomes low tone? Also same question about 9.
7. Not. It means that short vowels become high pitch and long become low pitch.
9. It means that if /ħ/ is after a vowel with low pitch, a high pitch vowel of the same quality is inserted between them.
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Re: TBPO's Scratchpad that prevents the CBB from drowning in his conlangs

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List of languages in Taray:
-Arkasian (Kwiyä Akraysiyu)
-Maáhhalár/Mahhalar
-Teguš
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Re: Mahhalar Phonology

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I'm redesigning Maáhhalár. Now it's just Mahhalar. It's still related to Arkasian (both languages are in Taric family).

Mahhalar Phonology

/p b t d k g/ p b t d k g
/t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ɕ/ c č ć
/s ʃ ɕ x ħ/ s š ś h hh
/m n ɲ ŋ/ m n ń ň
/l ɾ/ l r
/v~w j/ v j

/i u/ i u
/ɛ ə ɔ/ e ą o
/a/ a

Issues:
  • A last syllable of the root is stressed.
  • /v/ is [w] non-word-finally and [f] before or after an unvoiced consonant.
  • /v u ɔ/ → [ɰ ɯ ʌ] before or after /ħ/
  • Unstressed non-historically-long vowels in open ultimate syllables are reduced to /ə/ except /ə/, which is removed.
  • /v j ħ/ are inserted to prevent vowel hiatus.
  • A stressed vowel that was not historically long can be affected by a next vowel.
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Re: Mahhalar Noun Inflection

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Mahhalar Noun Inflection

Mahhalar nouns inflect for the following things:
-Noun class: sessile (non-moving), motile (moving)
-Case: ergative, absolutive, genitive, allative, benefactive, malefactive
-Numbers: singular, paucal (~2-4), plural

Endings
Sessile

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SESS SG     PAU     PL
ERG  -ą     -ev     -e
ABS  -∅    -ąv     -ąs
GEN  -ą     -ov     -o
ALL  -ą     -uv     -u
BEN  -ir    -iru    -irąs
MAL  -(a)ką -(a)kav -(a)kas
Motile

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MOT SG      PAU      PL
ERG -en     -enu     -enąs
ABS -ąn     -ąnu     -ąnąs
GEN -on     -onu     -onąs
ALL -un     -unu     -unąs
BEN -inrą   -inru    -inrąs
MAL -(a)kan -(a)kanu -(a)kanąs
Vowel alternation
Mahhalar morphology is non-contatentive, which means that the inflection can affect the root. There are all root alternations (except F-roots, which never change):

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    A E I O₁ O₂ U Ą
ERG a e i ą  ą ą e
ABS a e i o  o u ą
GEN ą ą ą o  o u o
ALL o ą ą u  o u u
BEN e i i ą  ą ą i
MAL a e e o  a o a
Edit: ???

Edit2: inflection of word mit "person":
mitą mite miten mitenąs
mit mitąs mitąn mitąnąs
mątar mąto mąton mątonąs
mątą mątu mątun mątunąs
mitir mitirąs mitinrą mitinrąs
metaką metakas metakan metakanąs
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Re: TBPO's Scratchpad that prevents the CBB from drowning in his conlangs

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Proto-Arkas phonology

/p b t d k g/ *p b t d k g
/v s (sʲ) (ç) x h/ *v s sy xy x h
/m n (ɲ) ŋ/ *m n ny ng
/l ɫ r/ *l ɫ r
/j w/ *y w

/i iː u uː/ *i ī u ū
/e eː ə o oː/ *é ē e o ō
/a aː ɒ ɒː/ *a ā ao āo
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