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Another one
/p t k/
/pʰ tʰ kʰ/
/b d ɡ/
/f s x/
/m n ŋ/
Stressed vowels: /i u e o a/
Unstressed vowels: /ə ʷə~ʷʉ ʲə~ʲɨ/
Root structure: (CV[unstressed])CV[stressed](C)
Roots are ambiguous as to part of speech; the suffixes they receive clarify that.
*dʷəxef:
dʷəxefə "water (nom.)"
dʷəxefʲə "water (acc.)"
dʷəxefnə "I drink"
dʷəxefnək "you drink"
dʷəxefʷəsə "lake (nom.)"
dʷəxefʷəsʲə "lake (acc.)"
/p t k/
/pʰ tʰ kʰ/
/b d ɡ/
/f s x/
/m n ŋ/
Stressed vowels: /i u e o a/
Unstressed vowels: /ə ʷə~ʷʉ ʲə~ʲɨ/
Root structure: (CV[unstressed])CV[stressed](C)
Roots are ambiguous as to part of speech; the suffixes they receive clarify that.
*dʷəxef:
dʷəxefə "water (nom.)"
dʷəxefʲə "water (acc.)"
dʷəxefnə "I drink"
dʷəxefnək "you drink"
dʷəxefʷəsə "lake (nom.)"
dʷəxefʷəsʲə "lake (acc.)"
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-(s)ə Nominative noun
-(s)ʲə Accusative/oblique noun
-(s)ʷəsə Nominative augmentative noun
-(s)ʷəsʲə Accusatuve/oblique augmentative noun
-(s)ʲəkʰə Nominative diminutive noun
-(s)ʲəkʰʲə Accusative diminutive noun
-n-ə First person imperfective verb
-n-ək Second person imperfective verb
-n-ʲə Third person imperfective verb
-tʰ-ə First person perfective verb
-tʰ-ək Second person perfective verb
-tʰ-ʲə Third person perfective verb
-(s)ʲə Accusative/oblique noun
-(s)ʷəsə Nominative augmentative noun
-(s)ʷəsʲə Accusatuve/oblique augmentative noun
-(s)ʲəkʰə Nominative diminutive noun
-(s)ʲəkʰʲə Accusative diminutive noun
-n-ə First person imperfective verb
-n-ək Second person imperfective verb
-n-ʲə Third person imperfective verb
-tʰ-ə First person perfective verb
-tʰ-ək Second person perfective verb
-tʰ-ʲə Third person perfective verb
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Re: Arayaz's thread so that she doesn't flood the forum [comments encouraged!]
Now some sound changes from that.
(ʷə ʲə rather than ʷʉ ʲɨ)
Nʷ > w̃ intervocalically; > w otherwise
f x > h
Kʷ Pʷ > P
sʲ xʲ > ʃ
ə > ∅ / V[+stress]C[-aspirated]_
ə > a / V[+stress]{CC, C[aspirated]}(C)_
Cʰ > hC / !_V
dʷəheh "water (nom.)"
dʷəhefʲ "water (acc.)"
dʷəhefsa "lake (nom.)"
dʷəhefʃa "lake (acc.)"
dʷəhehna "I am/was drinking"
dʷəhehnak "you are/were drinking"
dʷəhehtʰa "I drank"
dʷəhehtʰak "you drank"
kʰis "leg (nom.)"
kʰiʃ "leg (acc.)"
kʰin "I am/was running"
kʰink "you are/were running"
kʰiht "I ran"
kʰitʰak "you ran"
(ʷə ʲə rather than ʷʉ ʲɨ)
Nʷ > w̃ intervocalically; > w otherwise
f x > h
Kʷ Pʷ > P
sʲ xʲ > ʃ
ə > ∅ / V[+stress]C[-aspirated]_
ə > a / V[+stress]{CC, C[aspirated]}(C)_
Cʰ > hC / !_V
dʷəheh "water (nom.)"
dʷəhefʲ "water (acc.)"
dʷəhefsa "lake (nom.)"
dʷəhefʃa "lake (acc.)"
dʷəhehna "I am/was drinking"
dʷəhehnak "you are/were drinking"
dʷəhehtʰa "I drank"
dʷəhehtʰak "you drank"
kʰis "leg (nom.)"
kʰiʃ "leg (acc.)"
kʰin "I am/was running"
kʰink "you are/were running"
kʰiht "I ran"
kʰitʰak "you ran"
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Re: Arayaz's thread so that she doesn't flood the forum [comments encouraged!]
And so your thread is longer than mine. Congratulations!
I started mine 21 Jan 2013, 21:58
I started mine 21 Jan 2013, 21:58
My meta-thread: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5760
Re: Arayaz's thread so that she doesn't flood the forum [comments encouraged!]
Here's a second language derived from that proto.
(ʷʉ ʲɨ rather than ʷə ʲə)
p t k b d ɡ f s x > b d ɡ v z ɣ v z ɣ / V_V
pʰ tʰ kʰ > f s x
ŋ > ɣ
ʷʉ ʲɨ > u i
x ɣ > ∅ / !_V[stressed]
x ɣ > h r / _V[stressed]
C₁C₂ > C₂C₂
durevə "water (nom.)"
durevi "water (acc.)"
durevuzə "lake (nom.)"
durevuzi "lake (acc.)"
durennə "I am/was drinking"
durennək "you are/were drinking"
duressə "I drank"
duressək "you drank"
hizə "leg (nom.)"
hizi "leg (acc.)"
hinə "I am/was running"
hinək "you are/were running"
hisə "I ran"
hisək "you ran"
Here are the protoforms I'm using, by the way:
(ʷʉ ʲɨ rather than ʷə ʲə)
p t k b d ɡ f s x > b d ɡ v z ɣ v z ɣ / V_V
pʰ tʰ kʰ > f s x
ŋ > ɣ
ʷʉ ʲɨ > u i
x ɣ > ∅ / !_V[stressed]
x ɣ > h r / _V[stressed]
C₁C₂ > C₂C₂
durevə "water (nom.)"
durevi "water (acc.)"
durevuzə "lake (nom.)"
durevuzi "lake (acc.)"
durennə "I am/was drinking"
durennək "you are/were drinking"
duressə "I drank"
duressək "you drank"
hizə "leg (nom.)"
hizi "leg (acc.)"
hinə "I am/was running"
hinək "you are/were running"
hisə "I ran"
hisək "you ran"
Here are the protoforms I'm using, by the way:
Spoiler:
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Re: Arayaz's thread so that she doesn't flood the forum [comments encouraged!]
/t k/
/s h/
/m n/
/r l/
/i u/
/e/
/a/
CVC* syllable structure. Acceptable internal clusters: /mm nn rr ll st sk ht hk/. Permitted word-final codas: /n s r/.
/h/ is elided intervocalically.
Syllable nuclei may be /a e i u/, or a diphthong /ai au eu/.
Stress is ultimate with a word-final coda, penultimate if the penultimate syllable is closed and the ultimate is open, and initial otherwise. The language is stress-timed.
Nouns fall into three declensions, ending with /-e/, /-u/, or /-ir/. Almost all declension III (-ir) nouns are derived; only two declension III roots exist: kir "man" and mehir "ice."
More later. Gotta go pack.
/s h/
/m n/
/r l/
/i u/
/e/
/a/
CVC* syllable structure. Acceptable internal clusters: /mm nn rr ll st sk ht hk/. Permitted word-final codas: /n s r/.
/h/ is elided intervocalically.
Syllable nuclei may be /a e i u/, or a diphthong /ai au eu/.
Stress is ultimate with a word-final coda, penultimate if the penultimate syllable is closed and the ultimate is open, and initial otherwise. The language is stress-timed.
Nouns fall into three declensions, ending with /-e/, /-u/, or /-ir/. Almost all declension III (-ir) nouns are derived; only two declension III roots exist: kir "man" and mehir "ice."
More later. Gotta go pack.
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Hiatus until further notice: Part Two
Due to the decreasing time available to me, and the burnout that has plagued me for a long time, I will again be mostly off of the CBB for some time. I will most likely be able to respond to PMs and quotes, and I love notifications so hesitate not, but I will be essentially inactive otherwise. Not sure when I'll be back, but if I ever am able to conlang again, fear not: I shall be back to bother you again at the slightest sign of improvement in my condition.
─ Arayaz
Due to the decreasing time available to me, and the burnout that has plagued me for a long time, I will again be mostly off of the CBB for some time. I will most likely be able to respond to PMs and quotes, and I love notifications so hesitate not, but I will be essentially inactive otherwise. Not sure when I'll be back, but if I ever am able to conlang again, fear not: I shall be back to bother you again at the slightest sign of improvement in my condition.
─ Arayaz
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I'm often burnt out, but good cures are:Arayaz wrote: ↑14 Oct 2024 20:01 Hiatus until further notice: Part Two
Due to the decreasing time available to me, and the burnout that has plagued me for a long time, I will again be mostly off of the CBB for some time. I will most likely be able to respond to PMs and quotes, and I love notifications so hesitate not, but I will be essentially inactive otherwise. Not sure when I'll be back, but if I ever am able to conlang again, fear not: I shall be back to bother you again at the slightest sign of improvement in my condition.
─ Arayaz
-Morphophonology,
-Some non-related activity (f.e. philosophy),
-Conworlding.
I especially recommend the last one. Start will be hard, but it can become a passion. Lots of great conworlders started their journeys from conlangs.
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I and a lot of other people here will miss you! But maybe while you are away, your mind will come upon the seed of a conlang and conworld tjat you are ready to devote your life to.Arayaz wrote: ↑14 Oct 2024 20:01 Hiatus until further notice: Part Two
Due to the decreasing time available to me, and the burnout that has plagued me for a long time, I will again be mostly off of the CBB for some time. I will most likely be able to respond to PMs and quotes, and I love notifications so hesitate not, but I will be essentially inactive otherwise. Not sure when I'll be back, but if I ever am able to conlang again, fear not: I shall be back to bother you again at the slightest sign of improvement in my condition.
─ Arayaz
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 105,000 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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we're here for you, whatever you need.
keep safe
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Keep well, Languages Mackenzie. Will miss you.
At work. Will be back.
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I have returned. I think.
At work on something new. I'll draft a post about it soon.
At work on something new. I'll draft a post about it soon.
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Yes, welcome back, Arayaz.
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Welcome back!
she said, having been inactive for the past couple of months. I'll return now. At least for Lexember.
she said, having been inactive for the past couple of months. I'll return now. At least for Lexember.
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Yeeeeeeeeeeeah! Welcome back, zha meshi ad is!
Is emen ar higolen.
1s see-PST 2s return-PST
Is emen ar higolen.
1s see-PST 2s return-PST
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
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31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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Welcome back ^^
Also it seems the CBB has begun working on my chromebook again ? I'm hoping this lasts.
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I've been spending a lot of time lately doing research into the Ancient Nal'e language. I found it rather surprising that there was so little comprehensive documentation, despite a fair number of sources. Most of the existing publications on the subject are just analyses of preserved writing fragments, with relatively little discussion of the grammar in general.
I did find this, about the oblique case.
I did find this, about the oblique case.
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Wait, is this a conlang or a natlang?
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